Originally posted by Xoanon
reply to post by Magnificient
You might want to read up on the Hopi Kachina. It's sort of parallel to your post.
Thank you, a great informative thread. I am a big fan of the Hopi and your comment is actually very relevant; the Hopi do use bullroarers and they do
have a very elegant theory of the creation.
Thanks, I will revisit it.
I do not consider myself a Hopi expert but have spoken with Grandfather
in his home, have been in the Fire Clan's Kiva levels, been taken to the Prophecy Rock and other features, have been gifted
roadrunner and golden eagle feathers (assembled in Kivas), have been invited to many dances and have been invited to be adopted.
Many things come to mind that I will refer to from memory.
First off the similarity to the Dogon ceremony dress is obviously similar the the Hopi
(sorry, ATS won't let me upload images).
The four races were assembled by Masaa (the Christ) and were told to pick ears of corn. I forget who went first but they basically took corn the
color of their skin. The brown chose last and were given additional responsibilities from Masaa. The the races took: White = Fire; the Yellow = Air;
The Black = Water; Brown = Earth. That is why whites make internal combustion engines, the light bulb and nuclear crap. The yellow made spiritual
philosophy. A black man discovered blood plasma and the race mutated sickle cell that combats malaria. The brown are known for homeostasis with the
planet. Masaw told the races to go and learn and to share their knowledge. At present Native Americans are still legally classified as "wild life"
by the US Government (shared by a Hopi brother) and are given no representation at such institutions as the UN. Never mind about all the other ways
we are not sharing our knowledge. Regarding this thread I find it uncanny that the Dogon refer to a Water people as their teacher.
Hopi mythos via their Kachinas is that many of the Kachinas are Star Brothers - Aliens. Specifically their
, Red Star,
and pretty much all Kachinas that don't represent animals. When
the US finally made it to the moon the Hopi's basic sentiment was "it's about time Pahana, we've already been there." Additionally there is something
about the symbolism of the Eagle landing. Their mythos also warned of ever taking anything from the moon.
Meso-American mythos also speak of Twin Brother's of Creation - Dual Star systems, Yin-Yang, Cain-Able, mother-father, duality in general.
Like others I was reminded of the aboriginals of Australia. Midnight Oil's "Bullroarer."
Hopi too have prophecy that speaks of the return of the Pahana falsely thought the whites from Europe when they first showed up. That is why the Hopi
ironically refer to white people as Pahana; more of a slight than sign of respect. They see us as very troubled. The Hopi say Masaa will return to
see how his creations did. If there the return is preceded by the Red Star will be the Blue Star where the shift will be less problematic (to say the
least). If the Red Star comes directly there will be a great purification of those that have not followed instruction of the Christ and loved others
as themselves and shared their knowledge.
Masaa has tried four times to perfect humanity. All other versions failed as it seems we are. The first were made of mud and dissolved in the rain.
The second made of mud and sticks but could not keep the Creator's time, calendar and language. The third despite being able to keep the Creator's
ways were awkward and had small arms and scaly skin. The fourth, us, can do it all except get past our egos.
There lays a problem with the Hopi though; they have largely lost their way. Although they are the only tribe to not to surrender officially the US
government and are noted as being the peaceful people, their politics and management have been usurped by Pahana ways. Gone is the 12 chiefs
leadership and in with a white style of tribal council and local government that is tearing apart their nation. Of course this was foretold and can
be extrapolated from their Prophecy Rock.
I say bring on the Fifth World!
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