U.S Troops fire at a crowd, 10 killed.

How is it any different in a combat situation. (just a question, want to see how you answer)

well, the situation is real not simulated .. that's quite a huge difference .. think of the difference between car driving theory and practice

That's a good reply. It makes sense.

But even in combat, marines don't just shoot at what ever moves. They shoot at what they feel is a threat, or what their commander feels is a threat. They do use common sense though. Shooting at an unarmed crowd is not somthing a marine would do.(at least not one who wants an honorable discharge)

That causes problems for both sides in the war.

Excuse me but there IS a war going on. Some good advice; if you don't want a marine to shoot you, don't point your gun at him / her and fire. You can protest til you're blue in the face, you can throw rocks, bottles and even crap if your sanitary nature allows but once you raise a gun and fire at these guys, you are going to get shot. The only newsworthy aspect of this is the fact that this suprises some of you.

Originally posted by joehayner
Shooting at an unarmed crowd is not somthing a marine would do.(at least not one who wants an honorable discharge)

Then there must have been an order to kill the civilians...

Mokuhadzushi, why should a marine wait until one of his men is dead before deciding to defend himself under fire? Obviously the crowd of �civilians� was hostile if they were firing at them. And how do you know that they were civilians? They could have been para-military dressed as civilians, they're known to do that. As much as you are hoping that we just decided to mow down 12 people I seriously doubt that was the case. We are there to liberate the people, that's why we have been very carefully with our bombing's ect. We have no reason to kill innocent civilians unless we come under fire or something, then it's obvious that the crowd is hostile.

It's a simple case. Marines are fired upon, they defend themselves. In larger crowds of people there is much confusion and it's almost impossible for innocent people not to get caught in it.

Of course I still go back to my position of a no win situation. You complain that they let people loot and how bad they are for not policing. But Policing means having to use force which once used, you complain they are using force. You decide. Either they police and there are innocent casualties like this, or they let people loot. You can't have both. Either way ignorant people will complain because they just don't understand the complexity of these situation. Especially those who are not out to find the truth and be open minded, but rather just push their personal cause.

Yes, they are psycho killers trained to eliminate innocent civillians. In fact everyone in the US is. We all have chips in us and are controlled by Bush, Elvis, and the Borg. The only goal is to overtake the world so as to solve all parking problems. We won't rest until all the good people are destroyed and will only make deals with dictators. There are no mistakes, unless it benefits someone else or makes us look bad.

Now if some other these conspiracy freaks theories were really true, they would have just nuked the whole place and been done with it. Oh wait, but then it would be a long time before we could park there....

OK, sorry, done having fun.