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Topic started on 23-1-2012 @ 01:30 PM by FlyersFan
IMHO - Assisted suicide should be legal to everyone all around the world.
Certain safeguards should be in place of course to make sure people
aren't bullied into suicide. But it should be legal and available ...

Fox News - Man with Locked In Syndrome Wants Right To Die


Former rugby player Tony Nicklinson had a high-flying job as a corporate manager in Dubai, where he went skydiving and bridge-climbing in his free time. Seven years ago, he suffered a paralyzing stroke. Today he can only move his head, cannot speak and needs constant care.And he wants to die.

To try to ensure that whoever ends his life won't be jailed, the 57-year-old Nicklinson recently asked Britain's High Court to declare that any doctor who gives him a lethal injection with his consent won't be charged with murder. This week, the court will hold its first hearing on the case.


Oh .. and then there is this ...


He has refused since 2007 to take any life-prolonging drugs recommended by doctors, including heart drugs or blood thinners. He only takes medicines to make himself more comfortable, such as those to reduce muscle spasms


I understand that. I support him in his effort to be able to die with dignity.


reply posted on 23-1-2012 @ 01:36 PM by FlyersFan
reply to post by Swizzy


You are talking about Dignitas in Switzerland? Yes they have tourist-suicide but considering his condition I don't know if he could make it AND I'm thinking this fella is kind of a pioneer, pushing for the rights of others who are suffering as well. At least that is what I see.


reply posted on 23-1-2012 @ 01:46 PM by FissionSurplus
Absolutely. The power of life and death should not be in the hands of government. It is our life, and our death. We should have the right to go out with peace and dignity if we are in a situation such as you describe.

In the states, we take extraordinary measures to keep somebody alive, even if that life is full of suffering, pain, and complete disability. We are fine with playing God when it comes to keeping somebody from dying, even though it is sometimes better that they pass....but somehow, when it comes to letting somebody go, suddenly we don't want to play God anymore.

I went through this situation when my father was in a car accident that left him brain damaged. After their poking, prodding, and introducing infection into his brain, he had a massive stroke which left him nothing more than a husk. I would hear him crying in my dreams, although never once in life did I hear him so much as whimper.

Talks with the doctors were fruitless, as they said that once a stomach tube and trach were in place, they couldn't legally remove them. One day, they asked if they could administer antibiotics for the many infections he was getting. He was contractured into a fetal position, full of bedsores, and tubes everywhere.

Our only option was to refuse antibiotic treatment, and let the MRSA destroy what was left of his body. It took 6 weeks from that point for him to pass away. The whole situation still makes me feel heartbroken 16 years later. He should have been euthanized and allowed to die in peace. He was a great believer of this right before the accident and I know that is what he would have wanted.

When somebody is helpless to end the agony, angels of mercy must step up and free them from a body which no longer functions. I hope I live long enough to see the day when euthanasia is legal.


reply posted on 23-1-2012 @ 02:15 PM by soulwaxer
Originally posted by Frontkjemper
If the man wants to die on his terms, who are we to say he cannot? I give him my support, and like the OP I believe assisted suicide should be legal but only in cases where it makes sense. (I.e. killing yourself over heart break wouldn't be it. Killing yourself because you are 100% paralyzed IS.)


I'm sure you mean well, but consider this:
Assisted suicide is not suicide. There are 2 parties involved. The person who is going to die and the doctor giving him the lethal injection or drink. The action is commited by the doctor on request of the patient. This is called euthanasia and is a VERY complicated matter. It is legal here in Belgium (one of 3 countries world-wide), and I work for an organisation that promotes the right to euthanasia and patient rights in general. One very important criteria for euthanasia is that you are suffering intollerably, be it physically or mentally. Think about what you wrote. You are deciding for others what is intollerable and what is not. Even a doctor can't judge that, in my view. You are basically deciding for the whole of the human race what suffering is... In my own personal view, even a doctor or a psychiatrist is not up to that task. That is why there is a great need for a freely-available suicide pill. We need to take the doctor out of the equation.

Sorry, but I had to confront you on this. It's my job, litterally. As soon as I stop questioning these things, it will be time to look for another job.


reply posted on 23-1-2012 @ 02:19 PM by GogoVicMorrow
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Yeah.. let this guy die. If there is no hope of him doing anything, but thinking for the rest of his life let him die. He must be miserable. This is one of my greatest fears. I would lost my mind, it would be a constant horror.


reply posted on 23-1-2012 @ 02:21 PM by GogoVicMorrow
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I wonder if the guy, since he is alive and of sound mind, could somehow become change citizenship, be taken there and have it done?

I doubt it, but wonder.


reply posted on 23-1-2012 @ 02:53 PM by KilrathiLG
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could he try to get to a Belgian embassy and have a belgen doctor euthanize him on the embassy grounds as they are soverign terriroty of there home county and not subject to local laws....might be the loop hole he needs if he dosent win his court case?


reply posted on 27-1-2012 @ 09:48 AM by ottobot
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This fellow needs to find a way to Switzerland.

If he has the capacity to let his wishes be known, then he has the right to make decisions about the course of his own life.

I have worked with hospice patients. Most of them are in great pain at their "natural" deaths. Many of them ask for but are denied overdoses. It is very sad to see. They hate it, and just want to go to sleep.

A lot of folks should try watching this documentary; it gives a good idea of the perspective of someone who is trapped in his own body:

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