Fema camp guard, Are you evil enough ?

I believe you are. I believe we all are. There seems to be a lot of reinforcing evidence for what I beliieve and in the light of these evidences, I hope to show why I believe our whole system of blame and judgement is seriously flawed. Indeed, most anyone with a lick of intellect, knows that some of the most ancient writings in mans possession proclaims us all to be wholly evil. I think it means a lot when mans highest authority perscribes to a similar view. I myself tend to, " put a lot on it " as they say.

I find my self over and over again, entertaining the thought that when we point our finger and judge someone. To pay a fine, to six months in jail, life in prison or condemn them to death. I think we forget one very important thing.

What ever anyone person does, even canibalism even the most dispicable crimes anyone has ever committed.
I think that person is really presenting us with an example of what everyone of us is capable of. So if you think you could never run a death camp ? You might want to think again. The Nazis most famous defense at Nuremburg,

" I was just following orders " or " I did what I was told "



I hope you will comment.

SPELL CHECK

Pose as a guard and help the prisoner's where you can. Or just pick off the other guards one by one.

So, yea I think I could do the job.

reply to post by DAZ21


I like your way of thinking. But you can't say it's applicable in every circumstance that may arise. Once you're in to deep, what then ?

Good topic, I happen to have manipulated the - Internment Resettlement Specialist Ad - to be more appealing to the future "just following orders" bunch of geniuses looking for a future in blind American idealism.

This is one of my favorites...



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Originally posted by randyvs
reply to post by DAZ21

 

I like your way of thinking. But you can't say it's applicable in every circumstance that may arise. Once you're in to deep, what then ?

The deeper, the better. This can lead to more information gathering, which if used intelligently can bring a regime to it's knees.

This experiment was not about human cruelty and how easy it is for us to participate. It was about what it takes to get us to participate. They only ever show you the shocking side of the experiment, but if you research all of the results then you will actually gain a respect for the individuals who practiced restraint.

That being said... There is something to the idea of acting on something that is against human nature if it will prolong the health of your family. History has shown that those with families would play along with a horrible regime like this on order to keep the lifestyle they are used to, even if it is only for a brief time.

Originally posted by JibbyJedi
the future "just following orders" bunch of geniuses

I bet if a man in uniform came to your house with a gun in your face you would follow every order he gave you. You can go ahead and say that you wouldn't, but there is a good chance you'll just do as your told. See you've never experienced that situation before and would fold like a deck of cards. I have and I didn't. You can't say the same.

reply to post by DAZ21


A covert warrior of light you are. Stay alert.

No clue

I bet if a man in uniform came to your house with a gun in your face you would follow every order he gave you. You can go ahead and say that you wouldn't, but there is a good chance you'll just do as your told. See you've never experienced that situation before and would fold like a deck of cards. I have and I didn't. You can't say the same.

From what I know of Jibby it would only last until this "man" turned his attention the wrong way. I imagine it might be all over at that point. For one or the other, who can say ?

Thought provoking post for sure, the only thing that comes to my mind is with the job situation there in the States and some poor folks with 5 kids are going to think seriously about where the money is going to come from for the the next meal.

Between a rock and a hard place that one is.
Regards, Iwinder

Originally posted by NoClue206

Originally posted by JibbyJedi
the future "just following orders" bunch of geniuses

I bet if a man in uniform came to your house with a gun in your face you would follow every order he gave you. You can go ahead and say that you wouldn't, but there is a good chance you'll just do as your told. See you've never experienced that situation before and would fold like a deck of cards. I have and I didn't. You can't say the same.

I don't understand the point you are trying to make that has any baring on the topic of "just following orders" though. Are the military soldiers under orders by gunpoint these days?

And it would depend on how many guns were pointed at me as to whether I'd comply or not. I prefer to not use a gun as that usually means a gun will be used on me, but challenge me in hand to hand combat and I'll take on 5 or more grunts.

I wonder if the difference would be nationality--i.e. foreign troops on our soil are more likely to shoot (whatever) torture us than our own troops, while our own troops have been sent to another counry, whereby the citizens are "not real" to them, so it's not as big a problem. Do the foreigners become unreal as humans and therefore easier to kill?

I had googled foreign trooops on ?s soil, only to find that there are foreign troops stationed in Canda, in the U. S. etc, and the U. S. is stationed overseas.

I believe it would be harder to kill/torture one's own countryman.

Comments?

EDIT...now if Mind Control is involved it would be a different story!

IMO most people would fold if a gun was put in there face and told there families are all to be excuted if you do not go willing by government suits, but what other option would you have in this scenario, all you could do is try to help people at the camps without being seen as much as possible, but you would pretty much be screwed from speaking out and being able to do anything major.

reply to post by canadiansenior70


theres probably troops from a dozen countries stationed in the USA at anyone time but for training purposes so that in times of war everyone knows how each other works, i think we still got one of our princes stationed over there learning advanced helicopter techniques but as for turning them into death camp guards i doubt any decent soldier would do that no matter what the country

You dont have to be EVIL enough, you just have to be POOR enough.
Unemployment is high, bellys are empty.
A jobs a job after all.
A government paycheck will keep the wolf from the door much better than food stamps.

And when "needs must", everyone knows "its better to be a hammer than a nail".

Originally posted by canadiansenior70
I wonder if the difference would be nationality--i.e. foreign troops on our soil are more likely to shoot (whatever) torture us than our own troops, while our own troops have been sent to another counry, whereby the citizens are "not real" to them, so it's not as big a problem. Do the foreigners become unreal as humans and therefore easier to kill?

I had googled foreign trooops on ?s soil, only to find that there are foreign troops stationed in Canda, in the U. S. etc, and the U. S. is stationed overseas.

I believe it would be harder to kill/torture one's own countryman.

Comments?

EDIT...now if Mind Control is involved it would be a different story!

edit on 23-1-2012 by canadiansenior70 because: add info

Could you see yourself as fema camp guard is one of the multi topics imposed. Could you take the job and do it to secure your own familys well being ?

Andy
Excellent post Andy. You get a cookie.

I don't think the fact that we're the military's countrymen would change anything. Most soldiers these days join the military for a job, not to serve their country. Just out of high school or college, where are you going to go for work? The military will feed you, house you, give you excellent medical care, and PAY you.

I know a LOT of guys who joined the military just because they wanted the rifle, gear, a badass tank or Humvee, and stories. It amazes me how many soldiers I talk to WANT to go to combat... Why do you think it's so hard to get an infantry job? It's the most popular. Everyone thinks its Call of Duty with better graphics.

If it came between a bunch of strangers and their PAYCHECK, I bet the military would gun people down with smiles on their faces.

Originally posted by Adyta
I don't think the fact that we're the military's countrymen would change anything. Most soldiers these days join the military for a job, not to serve their country. Just out of high school or college, where are you going to go for work? The military will feed you, house you, give you excellent medical care, and PAY you.

I know a LOT of guys who joined the military just because they wanted the rifle, gear, a badass tank or Humvee, and stories. It amazes me how many soldiers I talk to WANT to go to combat... Why do you think it's so hard to get an infantry job? It's the most popular. Everyone thinks its Call of Duty with better graphics.

If it came between a bunch of strangers and their PAYCHECK, I bet the military would gun people down with smiles on their faces.

Scarey realist ! I think you very well may be right. I'm just not sure to what extent.

'If soldiers ever learned to think for themselves ? There would be none left in the ranks ".
Ferdinand the great

Originally posted by Adyta
I don't think the fact that we're the military's countrymen would change anything. Most soldiers these days join the military for a job, not to serve their country. Just out of high school or college, where are you going to go for work? The military will feed you, house you, give you excellent medical care, and PAY you.

I know a LOT of guys who joined the military just because they wanted the rifle, gear, a badass tank or Humvee, and stories. It amazes me how many soldiers I talk to WANT to go to combat... Why do you think it's so hard to get an infantry job? It's the most popular. Everyone thinks its Call of Duty with better graphics.

If it came between a bunch of strangers and their PAYCHECK, I bet the military would gun people down with smiles on their faces.

Good points made here in the above quote, I will add this, that I have no military background what so ever and I take the above quote at face value.

Do soldiers hang out together after work is said and done?
I know that police like to stick around with each other after hours or for social events, it is much safer doing that then running the risk of meeting up with one of your arrests in a dark and crowded bar or whatever.

If these Fema camps are to be serious camps as in (Gitmo) sp? then I see a real logistical problem with the guards and staff being in contact with neighbours, friends and family......kind of hard to put grandma in solitary confinement for cheating at cards or calling the government fools.

The only way I see this working is if you live in Florida you will be moved to Michigan and housed in a compound and your only personal contacts will be other guards and their families. And Visa Versa....

If enough guards, staff, management see loved ones in detention then the whole house of cards is bound to come a tumbling down and violently so too.

If the above situation happens then the only logical thing to do is switch personnel with other nations to avoid it.

Could I become a guard at a Prison camp for my fellow countrymen/ women.....not right now.
Could I become one next year?????????
I hope to hell not because things will have to be very very bad for that to happen.
Regards, Iwinder

Originally posted by Frankel
IMO most people would fold if a gun was put in there face and told there families are all to be excuted if you do not go willing by government suits, but what other option would you have in this scenario, all you could do is try to help people at the camps without being seen as much as possible, but you would pretty much be screwed from speaking out and being able to do anything major.

Your opinion sounds accurate to me. As long as it includes only most people.

Originally posted by Maxatoria
reply to post by canadiansenior70

 

theres probably troops from a dozen countries stationed in the USA at anyone time but for training purposes so that in times of war everyone knows how each other works, i think we still got one of our princes stationed over there learning advanced helicopter techniques but as for turning them into death camp guards i doubt any decent soldier would do that no matter what the country

Sounds a bit naive. You do kinow they go thru training right ?