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Originally posted by Annee
Originally posted by lampsalot
My problem with the pro-abortion people is they use semantics and guilt tripping to justify their position, rather than real solid arguments.
It is not pro-abortion.
It is pro Right of Choice.
Originally posted by lampsalot
I don't use the terms pro-life and pro-choice because they are engineered to demonize the other side. I say pro-abortion and anti-abortion because it's simply stating what your position is without any euphemism. I know pro-abortion people don't LIKE abortion.
Originally posted by newsoul
reply to post by Raelsatu
It is very sad to me. That life means so little.
Originally posted by lampsalot
Originally posted by Annee
Originally posted by lampsalot
My problem with the pro-abortion people is they use semantics and guilt tripping to justify their position, rather than real solid arguments.
It is not pro-abortion.
It is pro Right of Choice.
I don't use the terms pro-life and pro-choice because they are engineered to demonize the other side. I say pro-abortion and anti-abortion because it's simply stating what your position is without any euphemism. I know pro-abortion people don't LIKE abortion.
Originally posted by Tw0Sides
Originally posted by lampsalot
I don't use the terms pro-life and pro-choice because they are engineered to demonize the other side. I say pro-abortion and anti-abortion because it's simply stating what your position is without any euphemism. I know pro-abortion people don't LIKE abortion.
And your opinion is more valid, Why?
Feeling a little self important today?
Originally posted by Benevolent Heretic
Really? Obama said, "Abortion Enables Our Daughters To Fulfill Their Dreams"???
Originally posted by lampsalot
I meant that i find the terminology 'pro-life' and 'pro-choice' offensive and meant to smear BOTH sides of the debate.
Originally posted by trustnothing
reply to post by AzureSky
nope there is a lack of resources such as "water" and "food" to name 2. There are also a lack of jobs etc in the west but you know this. Overpopulation is not just a threat to humans but to all life on earth, check the endangered species list sometime. Burning down the amazon to allow cows to graze so you can have a big mac, mean people eating cats in the usa? Our social system is now unable to support the current population. The seas are over fished etc etc.
Abortion and sterilisation are valid tools which could improve the quality of life for all humans. I find it utterly abhorent when catholics in particular allow the spread of aids etc in africa because of their warped beliefs. Also how is an ethiopian having 7 children helping pervent starvation? The missionaries have a lot to answer for in Africa.
We need to think about tomorrow not just our selfish selves today as if we cant a powerful ruling elite will take action themselves feeling they have the justification. We need a global agreement to reduce population soon or else were #ed. They will wipe us all out as soon as they can do so without consequence to themselves, fact. They have been hinting at it for something like 40 years.
Originally posted by Miss Sile
This is a topic though that will never be agreed upon, so the best we can do is be respectful of the other persons views and their experiences that brought them to those views.
Originally posted by Tw0Sides
Nice to see you pro choice to live.
If I come down with life threatening Cancer , and need 1 million dollars , but can't afford it.
You going to help me pay , my friend, buddy, heck I'm alive and choose to live longer .
Can I count on you chum?
EDIT
Cmon pro choice buddy, the doctor's on the phone, don't leave me hanging, I asked the doctor and he
said "catch phrases" aren't currency, I choose to live, and you said.............edit on 23-1-2012 by Tw0Sides because: (no reason given)
Originally posted by beezzer
Originally posted by Tw0Sides
Nice to see you pro choice to live.
If I come down with life threatening Cancer , and need 1 million dollars , but can't afford it.
You going to help me pay , my friend, buddy, heck I'm alive and choose to live longer .
Can I count on you chum?
EDIT
Cmon pro choice buddy, the doctor's on the phone, don't leave me hanging, I asked the doctor and he
said "catch phrases" aren't currency, I choose to live, and you said.............edit on 23-1-2012 by Tw0Sides because: (no reason given)
Sure. Where do you want the check sent?
But that's off-topic.
So you're okay with killing unborn babies AND adults?
Originally posted by Tw0Sides
Originally posted by beezzer
Originally posted by Tw0Sides
Nice to see you pro choice to live.
If I come down with life threatening Cancer , and need 1 million dollars , but can't afford it.
You going to help me pay , my friend, buddy, heck I'm alive and choose to live longer .
Can I count on you chum?
EDIT
Cmon pro choice buddy, the doctor's on the phone, don't leave me hanging, I asked the doctor and he
said "catch phrases" aren't currency, I choose to live, and you said.............edit on 23-1-2012 by Tw0Sides because: (no reason given)
Sure. Where do you want the check sent?
But that's off-topic.
Woa Woa
Very on topic, very. So your pro life for younger babies , and not pro life for older people.
Curious position, some would say hypocritical, mot me mine you. I said its par for the course with self righteous people.
Originally posted by beezzer
So you're okay with killing unborn babies AND adults?
Um, okay.
Not sure if I want to go there.
Originally posted by TOMFROMOZ
Yeah nice one Mr President. So does contraception!!!
Originally posted by Tw0Sides
Originally posted by beezzer
So you're okay with killing unborn babies AND adults?
Um, okay.
Not sure if I want to go there.
Wow beez, thats your best answer , I expected a lively debate, you might as well say I beat you.
Little disappointed , we were having a good discussion, and I Check Mated you.
Originally posted by FlyingSpaghettiMonster
'Killing unborn babies' misses a fundamental point about the process of pregnancy. Nature is profligate. It doesn't need all pregnancies to run to term. There are many more eggs in a woman's ovaries than will ever become a foetus. A woman's menstrual cycle is the body shedding/wasting its monthly preparation for a pregnancy. Men expel more sperm than will ever be used, and even when that's into a woman, only one sperm out of millions gets through to an egg. Babies are effectively getting killed all the time, by miscarriages, which may be nature's way of thinning out the applicants for life. Should we prosecute women who miscarry for 'involuntary homicide'?
When it comes down to it, it's nobody's business except the person who's pregnant.