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reply posted on 23-1-2012 @ 12:38 PM by marg6043
reply to post by Cuervo



I agree with you, I am in the believe that birth control, any type of birth control should be free and easy accesible to everyone that is sexually active, because once a teen becomes sexually active is not turning back not matter how much preaching of the religious right will do.

It is sad to see that also adoption is every hard to do in this this nation when you see so many American people seeking adoption outside of the US.

But if churches and the governemnt start giving free birth control in this nation then Churches would not have anything to bicker, complain and preach about.

Sad, everthing done in our nation is double edged depending the type of agendas been pursued, political or religious.

Everybody pays, the unborn, the women that are forced to carry their unwanted pregnacies and the children that are born unwated.

At the end, the ones that are blamed are the women as usual.



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reply posted on 23-1-2012 @ 12:42 PM by trustnothing
loony christians again, against abortion, also against contraception. In case you are too thick to figure it out its because Catholics etc want to be dominant. Its got nothing to do with sanctity of life or god.

I feel it is everyones right to choose, if you think its murder then dont get a #ing abortion, but dont push your #ty fundamentalist view on everyone else. Its everyones right to choose. Birth control fails sometimes. Would you want you daughter to have to give birth to a rapists child? Thought not, get over it.

I actually feel that the state should force abortions in certain cases, such as addicts and other wasters and extremists, people who commit incest etc etc. Some of you should never be allowed children. I would personally make abortion mandatory unless you fulfil a specific criteria such as being able to provide for your child without handouts for starters. I also find it digusting when woman have 5 kids with 5 different guys. 2 strikes and your ovaries are out should help that one.

I believe india have a sterilisation program where you get a car, its about time other countries did the same. The earth cannot support the growing numbers for much longer. There a literally billions below the poverty line and you feel every child should be born regardless? lol go back to the stone age where humans are simply trying to survive as a species. Over population is a serious issue and anything that can be done to address that is for the good of mankind. because of people like you genocide/starvation will probably be the only answer left, sad times. Please come join the modern era.


reply posted on 23-1-2012 @ 12:43 PM by TupacShakur
reply to post by trustnothing



I'm actually an atheist, and if somebody gets raped, I'd be fine with them getting abortions. But what percentage of abortions match those conditions? 10%? 1%? 0.1%?


reply posted on 23-1-2012 @ 12:44 PM by Indigo5
You apparently do not understand what a quatation mark means?

Your headline..

Obama: "Abortion Enables Our Daughters To Fulfill Their Dreams"

What the OP article actually qoutes:

“And as we remember this historic anniversary, we must also continue our efforts to ensure that our daughters have the same rights, freedoms, and opportunities as our sons to fulfill their dreams.”

The quatation marks are false...he never said that...He didn't even infer it unless you think "our sons" are capable of having abortions. He was speaking to equal rights.




“As we mark the 39th anniversary of Roe v. Wade, we must remember that this Supreme Court decision not only protects a woman’s health and reproductive freedom, but also affirms a broader principle: that government should not intrude on private family matters,” Obama said. “I remain committed to protecting a woman’s right to choose and this fundamental constitutional right.

“While this is a sensitive and often divisive issue -- no matter what our views, we must stay united in our determination to prevent unintended pregnancies, support pregnant woman and mothers, reduce the need for abortion, encourage healthy relationships, and promote adoption,” Obama said.

“And as we remember this historic anniversary, we must also continue our efforts to ensure that our daughters have the same rights, freedoms, and opportunities as our sons to fulfill their dreams.”


You Manufactured a quote.
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reply posted on 23-1-2012 @ 12:45 PM by HIWATT
reply to post by Benevolent Heretic



You're correct of course.
In this case however, the misquote accurately reflects what was originally stated by him. Just a bit less wordy. That's why I had no problem perpetuating it in this thread.

He was intimating that by having an abortion, they would have the same rights and freedoms as our sons - who obviously cannot get pregnant, nevermind carry a child to term and giving birth, and/or raise a child ->

-> 3 things he seems to think would "ruin" a womans opportunity at having a "successful" life.... which is also a load of bullshyt

Like i said. He's a real sharp cookie. TelePRomTer werK gud oN dAt one, THanx


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reply posted on 23-1-2012 @ 12:57 PM by Indigo5
Originally posted by HIWATT
reply to
post by Benevolent Heretic



You're correct of course.
In this case however, the misquote accurately reflects what was originally stated by him. Just a bit less wordy.


What????

Less wordy????? You removed entire paragraphs, inserted the word "Abortion", and put quotes around it.

WTF????


reply posted on 23-1-2012 @ 01:01 PM by trustnothing
reply to post by HIWATT



Simple, the majority should have a choice and an unfit few should not. In the UK pregnancy is often abused to gain better housing and additional state handouts. A former friend abused this system to get a council house in home village which would have been impossible for a childless couple, not to mention the 25 year waiting list for a single person. The child benefits are then spent on drugs and alchohol whislt the kids eat the worst quality frozen food available, farmfoods slice sausage being a favourite. £1 for 24 pieces i think it was. O and guess what, daddy left the 3 kids and is now with someone else, he should be steralised but they should probably have tested her for drugs and aborted the first child as it now has various ailments induced by her drug use such as asthma and possible metal issues. My view, in comparison with obama is quite moderate. I like him more every day and im pretty sure the good people of america will re elect him.
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