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Victim class is often seen as a "disease" on society or as diseased themselves. "Parasites" and "bacilli" were words used by Nazis to describe Jews and others targeted for extermination.
The Nazis justified killing "useless eaters" based on the fact that they were using up resources needed by the German people.
Genocide often framed in the language of "choice." The Nazis asserted that the racial make-up of the German nation was an internal matter for the German people to decide. They also emphasized Hitler's choice, his "Will to Power," as a Nazi propaganda film put it. In the Senatorial debates of 1858, Stephen Douglas said that he was personally opposed to slavery but that each state should have the right to choose whether to be a slave state or a free state.
Originally posted by knightrider078
Heres a question when a baby is born by rape people talk like the baby shouldn't be born. why the baby is innocent what has the baby done to deserve to be aborted or lets just say it killed.
Personhood is always redefined to exclude the intended victim class. In 1935, the Nuremberg Laws codified the exclusion of Jews from German society. The next year, the Reichsgericht (Germany's highest court) essentially legalized the Holocaust. Cartoons routinely depicted Jews as pigs, dogs, rats, and other vermin.
In 1857, the U.S. Supreme Court declared Blacks "...a subordinate and inferior class of beings..." in [Dred] Scott v. Sandford. Black slaves were often assigned diminutive names, such as "Mingo," that were normally reserved for pets.
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In 1973, the U.S. Supreme Court found that "the word 'person,' as used in the [Constitution], does not include the unborn." Today, unwanted children are spoken of in dehumanizing terms: "embryo," "fetus," "products of conception," etc.
Originally posted by timetothink
reply to post by windword
By that definition, denying a killer the right to kill or a pedophile the right to "have" children is also wrong and takes away their rights to happiness. Your personal rights end when they impinge on someone else's even if that someone is a fetus. if someone is raped they can take the morning after pill which prevents pregnancy and does not need a prescription. Otherwise, don't have sex or protect yourself......murder is no way to fix a mistake. people need to own up to the messes they make without killing.
Originally posted by timetothink
reply to post by windword
By that definition, denying a killer the right to kill or a pedophile the right to "have" children is also wrong and takes away their rights to happiness.
Your personal rights end when they impinge on someone else's even if that someone is a fetus.
if someone is raped they can take the morning after pill which prevents pregnancy and does not need a prescription.
Otherwise, don't have sex or protect yourself......murder is no way to fix a mistake. people need to own up to the messes they make without killing.
Originally posted by timetothink
reply to post by windword
That's not a valid argument and you know it.....rape is illegal. Of course if you think rights are absolute no matter who else they hurt then the rapists rights are being infringed
And yes, the unborn are people with rights. anyone who says they aren't is a child abuser and/or murderer. Someone neds to stand up for the unborn and protect them.edit on 25-1-2012 by timetothink because: (no reason given)
Originally posted by timetothink
reply to post by windword
Oh drama, please...someone who kills another on purpose is a murderer...
Originally posted by timetothink
Genocide often framed in the language of "choice."
Resources are inadequate to care for intended victim class if they are allowed to live.
Victim class tends to be people who have what we want or get in our way.
Personhood is always redefined to exclude the intended victim class.
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edit on 25-1-2012 by timetothink because: (no reason given)
Please go to link to see descriptions for each of these arguments for abortion and see how they mirror the arguments for the holocaust and slavery.
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Originally posted by windword
And, a mass of cells in a sac is not a baby. It has no right to life. It is unfeeling and unaware and therefore suffers no injustice.