I had a dream that came to a screeching holt when I
discovered that I was pregnant.I took my unplanned
pregnancy as a sign that I was not meant to go into
the military!

Originally posted by marg6043
And the hell with those that wants to regulate my body like it was a peace of machinery.

Because they believe a baby is not a piece of machinery, not a lifeless object

That's why

Do you also support abortions beyond 2nd trimester?

All those saying use birth control seem to forget that it is not always effective.

When it fails for your 16 year old daughter you might sing a different tune.

Originally posted by Benevolent Heretic
Really? Obama said, "Abortion Enables Our Daughters To Fulfill Their Dreams"???

You have the gall to put that in quotes? That's just a lie. He didn't say that.

He sure as hell did! BH, I am not surprised you as usual are backing your boy, but to stoop so low and call me
a liar? That isn't the BH I know. Check my source!

“And as we remember this historic anniversary,we must also continue our efforts to ensure that our daughters have the same rights,freedoms,and opportunities as our sons to fulfill their dreams.”

Same source

Pax

Originally posted by Benevolent Heretic
Really? Obama said, "Abortion Enables Our Daughters To Fulfill Their Dreams"???

You have the gall to put that in quotes? That's just a lie. He didn't say that.

I think the title was shortened to fit the ATS max character restriction for thread titles.

The actual article is "Obama Defends Roe v. Wade As Way for ‘Our Daughters’ to Have Same Chance As Sons to ‘Fulfill Their Dreams" and is really the same statement as the title of this thread.

And even the direct and accurate quote is kind of demeaning to men. We have responsibilities as fathers too. If a woman cannot locate and extract support from her child's father it is very like she is just as at fault as anyone for making such bad decisions. I know there are "deadbeat" dads but they only have 50% of the equation to get the job done.

In most cases where the mother isn't a completely irresponsible "free spirit" the father shares at the very least financial support, and in many cases partial or shared custody. Men would also be providing actual, tangible support for their children in more cases if the courts weren't set up to default custody to the mother in the case of separations, disputes, etc.

I'm sorry. But abortion is ridiculous.

I know i know "But women should be able to choose", and yes, i agree, in certain circumstances an abortion should be performed (rapists).

But in all honesty, there are too many girls out there that use abortion as a form of contraceptive.
Instead of using a contraceptive as a contraceptive.

We should be teaching our kids how to be responsible, like my parents taught me. Most of the girls i went to school with are on their second or third child. Hell, my gf is 3 years younger than me and people SHE graduated with are on their 3rds. (She's 20)

We know people that continue to get pregnant (because they don't use contraceptives, aand if they do, its very rarely), even though they continue to have their children taken away from them,

We should be teaching people to be doing safe sex, instead of letting them run rampant, i know 15 year old girls that are pregnant. Are you kidding me? I know people who have had 3 kids before they are 19. Are parents not parenting anymore? It seems like most of these people that are having unprotected sex at a young age are all idiots (no offence if there is any in the audience).

If you don't want to take responsibility for another life. Then don't have sex. Period.
What happened to teaching kids sex ed class? Is that a one year thing now?

Stop glamorizing sex in the media
Stop making it a 'popular thing to do'

Probably don't like my views, i don't care.
Its not a religious thing either, its a common sense thing. Not ready for a child. Dont have sex. Did that stop me? Hell no. Did i always wear a condom? Hell yes. Was the girl i was with always on birth control? Hell yes. Otherwise there was no way. Guess what? I Haven't gotten anyone pregnant. So i guess teaching your children actually works. I think the government is at fault for trying to step into the private lives of families too much. "You cant spank your kids", Now look where we are. Lol.

The longer a girl/woman postpones raising a child, the more she can contribute to the economy.
I therefor see a modern political reason in favor of abortion. Same reason emancipation was encouraged.
Follow the money.

It sounds like a pretty stupid comment to make.
As has been said by another poster, contraception enables our daughters to fulfill their dreams, would have been a more appropriate statement.

I've always believed that every case of abortion should be assessed to a higher criteria than it currently is.
That is, the father of the unborn as well as all the extended families involved should be able to put forth a case to adopt and abortion should only be a last resort in dire circumstances of total destitution.
This would also enable out daughters to fulfill their dreams while cutting the amount of abortions down to a minimum.

I'm sure I'll cop some flak for that viewpoint but whatever......

I dislike Obama for a lot of reasons, but this isn't one of them.

There are too many single mothers, in poverty that are discouraged to get abortions. They will remain in poverty for the rest of their lives, their children will grow up without fathers, and a nice percentage of the children without fathers will be criminals.

This issue is just another sad reminder that too many options just leads to confusion and fighting. The fact about it is that if we could just go back to not having all of the options of birth control, abortion etc. and just tried and educate people to not make mistakes, or live up to them when they do, the world would be a much easier place to live. There would be less VD and young mothers. BC and abortion allow people to become separated from the act of mating. The act becomes a game, which loses it's value, and turns into something that may be forgotten even before monday morning.

Humans would do well to fashion their laws more closely to the laws of nature. We as a species already have respect for these laws and are less inclined to fight over whether they are right or not. Of course this idea does not work unless we accept the fact that more is not better, and too many choices only lead to confusion.

This is a hurdle that humans are going to face in the future or else become spread so thin that they lose the binding aspects of human nature.