Originally posted by THEDUDE86
and the Saudis have the money!

no suprise. the Bush family and the Saudis Royal family had had ties from much longer before 9-11. Only reason i make that statement is obviously the timing of a Bush President at the same time these passports were used. the history of the corruption of power and money has the same players we see today, from centuries back. the connections and coinsidences are too many to not be studied. imo.

Americans still think we were attacked by "terrorists", this drivel is repeated on a daily basis. Ron Paul or bust.

Most of the terror threat genuinely comes from Saudi Arabia and well educated, rich, Princes who are caught up in power struggles of their own and a desire to return to the Caliphate. Wars in Iraq and Afghanistan are distractions from the real threat coming out of Saudi Arabia, where our Oil Men are battling for control of the planets dwindling oil resources with their Oil Men.

As ever it's the innocent who suffer, and the ordinary person in the street who pays!

If that man knew what he was talking about, He'd be dead.

Who ever did 9/11 murdered thousands of people, you think they'd leave this guy behind?


BTW CIA never makes american pass ports(thats state departments job), The CIA ONLY makes forged foreign ones. Duh.

Originally posted by truthinfact
If that man knew what he was talking about, He'd be dead.

Who ever did 9/11 murdered thousands of people, you think they'd leave this guy behind?

He has been saying this for years, the facts where the passports were given is on record.

To kill him would only shine a light on him, bring his message to the forefront.

They don't want that.

Originally posted by TrickoftheShade
You think that Michael Springman issued 13 passports to the 9/11 hijackers?

I'd like to see you prove that one.

Thanks for correcting me, its important we stay on the facts, in my haste to respond I actually made 2 errors.

It was 15 out of 19 hijackers.
And it was visa's not passports.

Originally posted by Tw0Sides

Originally posted by TrickoftheShade
You think that Michael Springman issued 13 passports to the 9/11 hijackers?

I'd like to see you prove that one.

Thanks for correcting me, its important we stay on the facts, in my haste to respond I actually made 2 errors.

It was 15 out of 19 hijackers.
And it was visa's not passports.

So you're claiming that Michael Springman issued 15 of the 19 hijackers with visas?

That would have been quite difficult, I imagine. But let's hear your proof for it.

Originally posted by TrickoftheShade

So you're claiming that Michael Springman issued 15 of the 19 hijackers with visas?

That would have been quite difficult, I imagine. But let's hear your proof for it.

As I said , in another thread, I will be making a few threads regarding events before sept 11.

We will talk, but I know your mind is not open to change, so , I will make a thread to inform other ATS members.

You are invited to join the discussion.

Originally posted by Tw0Sides


As I said , in another thread, I will be making a few threads regarding events before sept 11.

We will talk, but I know your mind is not open to change, so , I will make a thread to inform other ATS members.

You are invited to join the discussion.

You know that, do you? How? Or is it just an erroneous assumption like a few of the others I've seen you make?

In the meantime, perhaps you could explain your evidence for your belief that Springman issued visas to (and I quote you) "15 of the 19 hijackers". Or perhaps you can't and you're knowingly providing disinformation.

So, The holes keep ripping in the flimsy fabric of the origonal 9/11 conspiracy theory that was so suspiciously touted by media with in the hour of the attack.
The story of how the terrorists get to their supposed terror acts is often confusing....like who was that official which put the shoe bomber on the plane when he was withou a passport?
Who was the john doe in the truck before the oklahoma bomb?
All of these amd more incidents seem to point to handlers controlling the participants in these terrorist acts, who seem to be connected to the establishment.
I have no doubts the CIA, or other gov intel agency was responsible for the issuing of visa to assorted terrorists in the past.....to a reasonable degree this has been proven already.....