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Following New EU Sanctions, Iran Says Closing The Strait Of Hormuz Is Now Its Legal Right

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posted on Jan, 23 2012 @ 05:06 PM

Originally posted by Corruption Exposed

But while U.N. inspectors regularly monitor Iran's declared nuclear facilities, their movements are otherwise restricted, and the IAEA has complained for years of a lack of access to sites, equipment, documents and people relevant to its probe.

The media finally had to admit that inspectors HAVE been there the whole time so they had to make it look like Iran isn't cooperating, just like they did with Saddam before the Iraq invasion. Some people are so eager to forget recent history.

LOL - what good are the inspectors if they can't go to places freely? Just like Saddam, Iran plays the game by letting the inspectors in, but then restricting where they go. That's a bit like letting the police search your house but keeping them sitting in the kitchen drinking tea instead of investigating that strange smell coming from the basement
But of course, Iran can do no wrong in YOUR eyes, right?

Anyway, Iran will never try and block the straights. Not in a million years.

posted on Jan, 23 2012 @ 05:11 PM
No one is blaming Europe for these sanctions?

posted on Jan, 23 2012 @ 05:15 PM
reply to post by Curio

Good post.

I have to agree. Iran is playing cat and mouse. They obviously aren't interested in halting their enriching. If this were about peaceful nuclear energy, they would have worked with us. Instead they rejected our offers and chose instead to do it themselves. We told them that we cannot allow that. Unfortunately, the whole world is going to suffer in some way because they're impotent.

We can't let a country that funds Hezbollah and Hamas get access to nukes, bottom line. It's worth plunging the world into WW3 because we have to stand up for what's right. A world that cannot stand up for what's right is no longer a world that knows freedom and prosperity. We have to fight evil where it festers and root it out. You can't look in the other direction as it grows.

In any other field of thought ignorance is never an excuse. Looking in the other direction is not how you handle a problem. When you go to court you cannot use ignorance as your defense.
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posted on Jan, 23 2012 @ 05:16 PM

Originally posted by Jordan River
No one is blaming Europe for these sanctions?

Russia is warning them about it.

Saud's are thumbing their noses.

posted on Jan, 23 2012 @ 05:21 PM

A really fantastic opertional map of the area. You can drill down on it to get details. There are others in this collection. This is from 1994, but all the same useful.

posted on Jan, 23 2012 @ 05:26 PM
Some kind of war with them is a distinct possibility. Iran is like a headless chicken right now. They're far from the best and brightest this world has to offers. It's really tragic how this is unfolding.

Looking over headlines over the past several months you can see the situation deteriorating.

If they'd stop associating with Hamas, Hezbollah, Syria and Lebanon then they'd have a chance.

But that's as likely as me winning the lottery. This situation is increasingly unsalvageable. World leaders know it. The UN knows it. But they're moving cautiously to gather a coalition.
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posted on Jan, 23 2012 @ 05:38 PM
reply to post by Silcone Synapse

I just wanted to give you a well deserved thumbs up
and tossed you a star.
This is why I joined ATS in the first place. Great place to read alternative "Outside the Box" solutions!

Well done.

posted on Jan, 23 2012 @ 06:17 PM

The European Union banned imports of oil from Iran on Monday and imposed a number of other economic sanctions, joining the United States in a new round of measures aimed at deflecting Tehran’s nuclear development program.

In Iran, one politician responded by renewing a threat to blockade the Strait of Hormuz, an oil export route vital to the global economy, and another said Tehran should cut off crude shipments to the EU immediately.

Meeting in Brussels, foreign ministers from the 27-state EU, which as a bloc is Iran’s second biggest customer for crude after China, agreed to an immediate ban on all new contracts to import, purchase or transport Iranian crude oil and petroleum products. However, EU countries with existing contracts to buy oil and petroleum products can honor them up to July 1.

EU officials said they also agreed to freeze the assets of Iran’s central bank and ban trade in gold and other precious metals with the bank and state bodies.

If you could get their gas imports cut down significantly that might actually hurt.

posted on Jan, 23 2012 @ 07:51 PM
reply to post by Freeborn

I understand the point youre making and didn't mean to portray as if you supported sanctions. I guess I got caught up looking for and explaining the info about inspectors being there that I got carried away. Sorry, my mistake.

My main concern is that the media was saying that no inspectors were there but once it was proven that they were lying they tried to save face by saying Iran isn't fully cooperating. Iran doesn't have any undeclared facilities and UN inspectors have access 24 hours a day via surveillance cameras in all the required areas, plus Russian officials are always there.

This whole situation is based on LIES. The media and the applicable organizations are LYING just like they did before Iraq. They are quoting eachother's unsourced lies only to admit the truth later on without actually admitting that they were previously lying. If this isn't obviously clear then there is nothing I can do to help.

There is plenty more that I want to say but I'm typing on my phone so perhaps I will continue tomorrow.

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posted on Jan, 23 2012 @ 08:58 PM
Even the IAEA doesn't believe what you are saying Corrupt.

They have found traces of highly enriched uranium. Even if they didn't, Iran is stockpiling what they have at the 20% that you find so acceptable. This reduces the amount of time to weapons grade down to weeks.

Even if you took everything they are doing at face value, no lies, it still adds up to weapons program.

posted on Jan, 23 2012 @ 09:32 PM
Nothing will happen until after July 1st. Iran will try and offset any financial loss, will petition China and Russia hard. Only when they have no choice will they feel provoked into taking action.

If anything happens it will be September/October. Still have one more awesome summer to enjoy and I will be getting drunk quite a lot this year.

posted on Jan, 23 2012 @ 09:54 PM
Im personally still trying to figure out why gas is still over three dollars a gallon. :/

posted on Jan, 23 2012 @ 10:09 PM
LMAO!!!! You and me both man. It spike right after Katrina but then it never came down....hmmmm. I mean i can understand it going up following a natural disaster but its like once they realized folks would pay that amounth they just kept it there. The baseline was raised.

Originally posted by milkyway12
Im personally still trying to figure out why gas is still over three dollars a gallon. :/

posted on Jan, 23 2012 @ 10:25 PM
look simple solution, nuke america, M.e, Africa, Australia, south america, russia, china, canada, uk, and we should all be in good shape, and nuke ats too

posted on Jan, 23 2012 @ 10:37 PM
Actually i just tried to google "Why gas is still over 3 dollars a gallon" ... no information on it that i could find that says this is why gas is still around 3 dollars a gallon.


posted on Jan, 23 2012 @ 10:40 PM

Originally posted by Jordan River
nuke ats too

Some of my bestest friends/enemies are on ats...

posted on Jan, 24 2012 @ 02:14 AM
reply to post by tothetenthpower

us has to protect it's interests domestically and foreign. If they want to put the gloves on, there is no question we have nuclear capability is there? We took the leash of of Israel and they would do it for us. i am glad i live in a world where the evil people who want to use evil ideas cant bring them to fruition like us good old usa folks seem to do everyday. God Bless the USA

posted on Jan, 24 2012 @ 02:15 AM
reply to post by milkyway12

why is crisco vegetable oil twelve dollars a gallon? hmmm. that is made here in the USA.

posted on Jan, 24 2012 @ 02:27 AM
reply to post by jonnywhite

although you may search for alternatives than war, good man, but it seems in our history of our world it takes place picture book clear as it is being laid out right now. first establish they are the bad evil people trying to blow up our friends, this gives you public communication that your not happy with their policies, then start looking for any kind of secretive kind of action, like for instance create your own scenario which doesn't exist at all so it seems so secret because no one talks about something that doesn't exist too often. then rattle the sword. throw in a few aircraft carriers, whole fleets, float em ten inches off there beaches, have our planes fly oh so close so that they can be seen, and basically push push push, till someone pulls a trigger, or drops a bomb, or plants a bomb and pretends it got dropped on them, and starts the new war including whoever and whomever you wanna kill with your multitudes of machines massed on there door step. yep that's us. The good old fashion way of pushing people into suicide by Military action. personally i think the world needs to grow up. get electric cars, or go back to horses. why float our esteem and happiness on dead matter buried deep beneath the earth's surface, why, when we can just use our creativity to have ample supplies of sunshine and charged batteries. war is the last thing any of us want to do, it isn't cool anymore. people die close to us. close to you. I just buried my daughters fiancee who got killed in Afghanistan about three weeks ago. It's all about wasted wasted lives. come on home boys, quit chasing enemies that don't exist, quit this now. end this now.

posted on Jan, 24 2012 @ 02:57 AM

Originally posted by Aeons
Here's another map of the World, oriented differently and with proper proportioning on it. I'll look for one that can be drilled down on.

Scene from the West Wing - Peters Projection Map - Social Equality

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