Various religions from ancient times all schedule instances where either dead people have been raised formt he dead, or the living have mysteriously disappeared and then reappeared, always with the same accompanying effects, a clap of thunder, a blinding flash of light etc.

Some researchers such as Simcha Jocobovici have argued that Jesus is just a copy of one pre-existing story or another, but none seem prepared to consider the obvious: that a machine exists capable of resurrecting the dead.

As recent documents note that from 1257AD onwards, every new inducted member of the Knights Templar had to kiss the Shroud, it is not surprising that the DNA material used from the Shroud to date it give a misleading date of 1260AD and the radio carbon dating is therefore useless and the Shroud should be taken seriously.

There are key facts that should be considered in the Biblical text of the resurrection of Jesus and associated with the Shroud of Turin:-

- The resurrection was accompanied by an angel.
- The image on the shroud is very, very shallow, being only a few millionths of a millimetre in depth. Simpy drawing a standard razor over it would remove it.
- The image caused by the very ends of the fibres being incinerated instantly, yet the cloth did not catch fire. It has been estimated that it would have taken a blast of light, raising the tips to over a million degrees for less than a millionth of a secodn to have done this.
- If the light causing the image had been by ordinary means or by lasers, it would have left just a blurry smudge. The only way for this to have been focused onto the cloth would have been by "slicing light", in other words, the body of Jesus was scanned as if in a photocopier.
- Closed coputerised analysis has indicated, incredibly, that the image on the shroud is PIXELATED, all be it very, very finely.
- The Jewish tradition meant that the shroud was wrapped around the body and strips were torn off to tied it into place. Those two strips were later re-attached to the edge of the shroud. As a result, had Jesus simpl come back to life, he would, in effect, have been trapped, roped in a body bag, unable to escape, so the resurrection must have been associated with physical movement form one place to another.
- The second person to enter the cave immediately concluded not that his body had been stolen but that he had risen. Why? This would fit with the concept that the shroud was still roped tightly closed, but his body was gone.
- When seen in the garden later, he was mistaken for the gardener. If he had moved during resurrection, then he would have been reborn naked and needed the nearest clothes available. It would make sense for him to have then either scrounged, borrowed, stolen or been lent clothes by the nearest person, almost certainly the gardener.

So, how would a resurrection be done?
Consider a machine that could scan the body of human into a system, turning the body from matter to energy in the form of light as it does so. The energy would be immense, but that given off by the matter to energy transfer would easily be enough on a bootstrap system. Once in the machine's memory, the fatal damage to the body is corrected and then the body is "downloaded" back into reality as a living person, using the stroed power from the disintegration to be able to power the recreation.

There are numerous other examples of this happening in the ancient world... but none other has a surviving photograph of the event!

I'm about as Christian as they come, so... I half expected to come into your thread and feel the need to argue. As it happens... I don't. Not at all.

While I might disagree with the interpretation of the evidence (in terms of ancient aliens), I think the theory behind it is certainly sound, and very, very interesting.

I suppose the question, from a Christian standpoint, is whether the source of the light was mechanical or spiritual in origin. You could certainly make an argument regarding the Shekinah glory (the light that led the children of Israel out of Egypt / hovered over the Tabernacle / led the magi to the young Jesus (the "Star")) being involved - Scripture also states that Christ was raised by the Holy Spirit (Romans 8:11), which would fit with this.

Interesting stuff, S&F.

maybe some form of old electric shock paddle things. They may have turned it up a bit and fried him right out of the cave into the garden.

hmmm... quite interesting... one of the better theories that have heard on the matter.

not a believer in primitive , barbaric religions like christianity.. theres always more logical and realistic / provable explanations than what christians would have everyone believe.. we'd be stuck in the dark ages yet if christians had their way..

well done ... S+F

Jesus said he will come like lightning, he is light, God created light and Angels are of light, some Angels are so bright other Angels can't see them either.

Originally posted by Awen24
I'm about as Christian as they come, so... I half expected to come into your thread and feel the need to argue. As it happens... I don't. Not at all.

While I might disagree with the interpretation of the evidence (in terms of ancient aliens), I think the theory behind it is certainly sound, and very, very interesting.

I suppose the question, from a Christian standpoint, is whether the source of the light was mechanical or spiritual in origin. You could certainly make an argument regarding the Shekinah glory (the light that led the children of Israel out of Egypt / hovered over the Tabernacle / led the magi to the young Jesus (the "Star")) being involved - Scripture also states that Christ was raised by the Holy Spirit (Romans 8:11), which would fit with this.

Interesting stuff, S&F.

So you're about as Christian as they come?
Right, so that's why you entertain the theory that God Almighty "is/could" be etc...etc...
of an Alien Origin...Mechanical or Spiritual? I hope it's not contagious.

Originally posted by alilonthecheekyside

Originally posted by Awen24
I'm about as Christian as they come, so... I half expected to come into your thread and feel the need to argue. As it happens... I don't. Not at all.

While I might disagree with the interpretation of the evidence (in terms of ancient aliens), I think the theory behind it is certainly sound, and very, very interesting.

I suppose the question, from a Christian standpoint, is whether the source of the light was mechanical or spiritual in origin. You could certainly make an argument regarding the Shekinah glory (the light that led the children of Israel out of Egypt / hovered over the Tabernacle / led the magi to the young Jesus (the "Star")) being involved - Scripture also states that Christ was raised by the Holy Spirit (Romans 8:11), which would fit with this.

Interesting stuff, S&F.

So you're about as Christian as they come?
Right, so that's why you entertain the theory that God Almighty "is/could" be etc...etc...
of an Alien Origin...Mechanical or Spiritual? I hope it's not contagious.:

1. There is nothing in scripture that says that God is not an Alien. Indeed, under the term "alien" not only God but even Mexicans are technically Alien. Furthermore, scripture technically does actually suggest that He is so. The central point for me that a lot of people need to get their head around is that if God were an alien life form, would He be worthy of the same level of priase and respect? Or rather is there any reason to lessen it? As His actions are unchanged and His devotion is even more clearly total, it would seem that here should, technically, be no actual reason to diminish our view of Him.

2. When I say that I am going to make toast, my hand does not heat up, I use a toaster. The same concept is true here. Just because the Holy Spirit might have caused the resurrection of Jesus, it does not exclude the use of instruments or equipment. Consider, when the ANgel of the Lord struck down the Egyptians he did not convert Himself into being a locust, He USED locusts, so why should the use of tool here not be viable with Scripture?