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This is what happens when Ford announces they are hiring

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posted on Jan, 23 2012 @ 12:20 PM
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I wonder if apple will start hiring and start making their products in the USA as opposed to China. We would easily create a lot of jobs.




posted on Jan, 23 2012 @ 12:30 PM
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Originally posted by yadda333
Disturbing trends in this thread:

1. The amount of people who still apply the nose-to-the-grindstone approach and spew hackneyed nonsensical jargon such as "they call it work because it's hard", "just be happy you have a job", etc.

It's 2012 people. You're telling me that this is the best we can do? We're still tied to this fracking rock, fighting the same stupid battles, and listening to the same refurbished crap from people who don't realize this is the 21st century.

No, I don't want to work 8-12 hours a day at a job I don't like just in the hope that I can retire at an age where I go to bed at eight o' clock in the evening, wake up at four in the morning, and no longer care to accomplish anything because I lost the drive that youth gave me.

No, I don't want a fracking job. "Want" is the key word. I "want" to live and enjoy life--I am forced to have a job and work. Let people like me complain.

Yes, you all should stop living off of your grandparent's depression era advice and, more importantly, stop repeating it to those of us who would like to see this civilization progress.

Yes, mindless service driven jobs are crappy--let people complain about them. We should be at a point in society where the majority of what people do is aimed towards actual progress. We should be using our technology to eliminate the need for service driven jobs.

The point we're at, as a civilization, is depressing. Let us complain.

2. Using the phrases "putting food on the table", "feed my family", etc.

Please, for Frack's sake, let's finally wash our hands of these phrases.

Every time I hear one of these phrases I can't help but conjure visions of lugging home giant sacks of potatoes, through depressed streets of a broken down city surrounded by burned out apartment buildings crowned with giant smoke stacks pumping black sludge by the gallons into the air, up three flights of stairs to a scantily furnished one bedroom apartment where my family of five lives with no heat and soot stained walls.

3. Posters who come on and tell people to go apply for jobs

SHUT UP. SHUT UP. SHUT UP.



People have to do what they deem is necessary for survival. So if feeding themselves and their families are what's important to them then they do what they must to accomplish that agenda. If you're able to provide a source of income for yourself without having to go and work for "Mr. Charlie" then you're doing what your suppose to do. The thing is everybody is not you and can't do that to sustain themselves unfortunately.



posted on Jan, 23 2012 @ 12:30 PM
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Originally posted by randomname
the saddest part is yet to come. when they are hired, they stand in front of the same machine day in and day out for 8-12 hrs a day.

sometimes for 6 days a week, because the greedy imbeciles who run the show save money by overworking employees, even with overtime.

stale air, no natural light, harmful fumes from plastic, paint and metal.

then only a minutes warning to getting laid off because ford's latest car is sh-t, and they always run at a loss because their main source of revenue is government bailouts.

if i was one of them, i would be selling hotdogs to the people in line. you'd make more in one day than working there a month.


edit on 22-1-2012 by randomname because: (no reason given)


You do realize that these would be union jobs, right? I don't quite understand your point. Many of them volunteer to work that 6th day because of the double time. Those that were able to get the jobs offered got good jobs with good benefits. That's fact.



posted on Jan, 23 2012 @ 12:33 PM
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Originally posted by DJM8507
It will only get worse.

Capitalism innovates to maximize the efficiency of profit. There are no other considerations.

That's not the whole picture / not entirely true.

Corporations profit most from qualified, skilled, healthy workers because they are more productive, more creative and more dedicated when they identify with their employer.
Motivated and satisfied workers = more profit. The success of social market economy is proof for this.
The model of capitalism you mean is probably the abomination of "ruthless capitalism", which is harmfull and not self-sustaining.

I agree with the rest of your post though... a better world is absolutely possible.

edit on 23-1-2012 by ColCurious because: (no reason given)



posted on Jan, 23 2012 @ 12:35 PM
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Still proud to be an american?
just wait...



posted on Jan, 23 2012 @ 12:39 PM
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Originally posted by spacekc929
The point isn't that these people don't want to work, or even that they're lazy. The point is that it's sad that our society, the human race in general, is forced to work miserable jobs for low wages simply to make a living. Before agriculture and iron (wheat and warfare) the human race only worked for as much as they needed - they went a hunted and gathered for food. They survived. Then they got scared of scarcity and tried to save food, and wha-la, farms and stealing and slavery and WORK. Toiling day in, day out, hours upon hours, for what? A pithy amount of money that will barely put food on the table? There is clearly enough food out there for everyone to have some and enough to be left over. The problem is we live in a society that allows some to have it all and forces the rest to beg for the leftover scraps. We literally beg for these crappy jobs just so that we can have a bit of food and survive to live one more day working our life away for a little bit more food. What kind of life is this?

"Please, Mr. Millionaire CEO, may I have some more?" It's ridiculous that this is the way we're living. Are we really incapable of learning to share? Is it really ethical that some have nothing while others have it all, and the ones who have it all hoard it so the rest can have none? It's sad. Human existence, except for the privileged few, is pretty darn pathetic.


You are completely out of touch with reality. These jobs offered by Ford are good jobs. It makes me wonder your age, as I've noticed that the younger generations seem to be ungrateful and have an unrealistic sense of entitlement. Your employer doesn't need to love you or coddle you. Ford offers good jobs at great wages with good benefits. If that is not good enough for you, there is no way to make you happy. Perhaps I could offer you a nice $150,000 a year job with a Christmas bonus and all expenses paid for no experience or education? Not realistic, yet so many think this is what they "deserve."



posted on Jan, 23 2012 @ 12:46 PM
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AnyOne who believes the "official" unemployment rates, believes People are lazy and don't want a job who are on services, who believe We are not in a depression as bad as the 1929 depression... Haven't taken a good look around.



posted on Jan, 23 2012 @ 01:21 PM
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Originally posted by nyk537
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Hope for what? A day where you can sit around on your butt all day and get paid for it?

Seriously? That's the best you've got?


Well I guess you got me there! I simply don't have a retort for such a well thought out and piercing post--right to the core!

Seriously, you have reduced me to Peter Gibbings from Office Space.

The hope is to one day be able to put forth all of our intellectual and physical power to pushing our civilization forward, rather than spending all of our energy collecting monetary rewards for doing things that are intellectually, spiritually, or physically unfulfilling.



posted on Jan, 23 2012 @ 01:49 PM
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Originally posted by Irish614
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I could care less about the temperature. They make pea coats for that very reason. The fact that they were standing there in line with jeans, sneakers and some puffy jacket makes it look like they aren't trying very hard to get the job. As an unemployed person I went out with my unemployment checks and bought "interview" clothes.


I don't think you have a clue.

Do you think typical auto workers dress in pea coats, Dockers, and loafers? They do not in case you answered yes to that.

These are entry-level manufacturing jobs. They aren't hiring middle-managers or cubical squaters. These aren't resume toting college grads.

Either your post was a joke or you really have no idea what a manufacturing/construction job is like.



posted on Jan, 23 2012 @ 01:56 PM
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HA!

I was there,I got laid off a couple months ago.I live about an hour away. I left my house about two and half hours before this shindig was to start,and when I finally got through the traffic and parked,I was too late.They said they we're no longer taking applicants,but I could leave my resume with the cop that was there.

Oh well,at least I've got some side work til I find a decent permanent position,could be worse.

And yes it was crazy down there,I expected plenty of people to show,but wow it was nuts.
edit on 23-1-2012 by KaiserSouszay because: (no reason given)



posted on Jan, 23 2012 @ 02:10 PM
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Originally posted by dreamingawake
Indeed very sad, lots of people in need of work, not enough jobs.

Does this prove to some people now that out of work people are not lazy? I hope so at least, people need to pay attention in this concerning time and quit buying what the msm throws.
edit on 22-1-2012 by dreamingawake because: vid added


There are enough jobs, but a lot of American's don't want to do them. These people want the factory job with Union benefits, medical, dental, 401k, and pension.



posted on Jan, 23 2012 @ 02:12 PM
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What we need to do is stop giving those people food stamps

-this message brought to you by the Gingrich campaign-




Yes, its sad, and until the trade rules are looked at, this will be a ever increasingly normal picture of employment in the west (forget just America, all of the non-slave labor countries)



posted on Jan, 23 2012 @ 02:18 PM
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Originally posted by Freenrgy2

Originally posted by dreamingawake
Indeed very sad, lots of people in need of work, not enough jobs.

Does this prove to some people now that out of work people are not lazy? I hope so at least, people need to pay attention in this concerning time and quit buying what the msm throws.
edit on 22-1-2012 by dreamingawake because: vid added


There are enough jobs, but a lot of American's don't want to do them. These people want the factory job with Union benefits, medical, dental, 401k, and pension.


You may find the worst places of unemployment are also the same states that have no unions at all.
Consider this.
Unions get better wages and benefits for workers
This in turn gets workers more luxery money to spend on their local communities, able to get some medical attention, employing more doctors, building more hospitals, which brings in more shops and stuff for doctors
the whole community thrives when workers are treated right

Treat the worker like a slave and they don't go out to movie theaters, clothes shopping at their local shops, etc..thereby tanking the local economy.

The old "unions are hurting jerbs" nonsense is demonstratively incorrect and actually quite the opposite. It is a corporate line that is shoveled into the mouth of those whom refuse to research facts and spewed out as if it had meaning,

The only area where unions hurt jobs are in corporations that want to hire chinese people to make their crap for 30 cents an hour...in which case, being in a civilized and developed country in the first place hurts those types of jobs.
But what the true sting is, is the trade laws that allow corporations to ship our jobs over there



posted on Jan, 23 2012 @ 02:36 PM
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Really?

And what kind of job is going to fulfill you spiritually?



posted on Jan, 23 2012 @ 02:36 PM
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Originally posted by buddha
Still proud to be an american?


Absolutely I am.



posted on Jan, 23 2012 @ 02:38 PM
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Mods picking fights, this is fantastic!

I'm sure you understood that the hope he was talking about was "hope that in the future, we can take a country with immense resources and create more opportunities and a higher standard of living than was present in the depression-era" but totally mischaracterized it to suit your judgmental garbage which revolves heavily around the two ideas that 1. You aren't out of work like them because you're better than they are, either morally or skill-set wise, and 2. Anyone who disagrees with your world view is either lazy, or a socialist.

Don't you have some one line posts to flag or something?

Keep that bar high, guys!



posted on Jan, 23 2012 @ 02:40 PM
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Originally posted by WickettheRabbit

Originally posted by Irish614
reply to post by Strict
 


I could care less about the temperature. They make pea coats for that very reason. The fact that they were standing there in line with jeans, sneakers and some puffy jacket makes it look like they aren't trying very hard to get the job. As an unemployed person I went out with my unemployment checks and bought "interview" clothes.


I don't think you have a clue.

Do you think typical auto workers dress in pea coats, Dockers, and loafers? They do not in case you answered yes to that.

These are entry-level manufacturing jobs. They aren't hiring middle-managers or cubical squaters. These aren't resume toting college grads.

Either your post was a joke or you really have no idea what a manufacturing/construction job is like.


Actually I do know what manufacturing/construction jobs are like as I was an electrical technician at various job sites. When I interviewed I wore a button up and slacks. It doesn't matter what job your applying to, dressing up a bit shows that you actually care about the job your applying for.



posted on Jan, 23 2012 @ 02:50 PM
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Originally posted by nyk537
reply to post by yadda333
 


Really?

And what kind of job is going to fulfill you spiritually?


Fishing



posted on Jan, 23 2012 @ 02:50 PM
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Maybe it is sinking in, When you vote for an unqualified candidate and then wonder why the county has gone down the swirl.

Hows that CHANGE treating everyone? The people in that line sure don't feel like they have a lot of HOPE now. November will be our last chance to get the train back on the tracks..................



posted on Jan, 23 2012 @ 02:55 PM
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Originally posted by StayAlert1
Maybe it is sinking in, When you vote for an unqualified candidate and then wonder why the county has gone down the swirl.


Yes, all Obama's fault
-shakes fist-

oops, whats this?


Summery:
Hey 'merica. Bush here....I broke the country..but no worries, I am out in a couple months.
good luck. thanks for the lulz




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