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posted on Jan, 22 2012 @ 03:37 PM
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Deny Ignorance.
Is this what this whole site is about???
Can anyone please explain WHY this should be issued to the the p-atents people???
www.newenergytimes.com...
Is it that those who presently control via a monopoly of IGNORANCE deem such should continue???
gravitor




posted on Jan, 22 2012 @ 03:56 PM
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Because those technologies are dangerous to the status quo.
Seems like thats a way of investigating and probably suppressing these technologies.

Ignorance is 'their' number one tool of control.



posted on Jan, 22 2012 @ 04:59 PM
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OK. I read that thing twice. Governmentese to be sure and correspondingly difficult to parse. My reading is that the patent office is trying to avoid ridicule by accidentally issuing a patent for something that violates the laws of physics. "Perpetual motion machines" and "free energy devices" are cases in point. Obviously, people seeking patents are trying to lock up a design so they can make serious money off it. That's what patent protection is all about.

However, the patent office, backlogged by several years, has been snookered by ridiculous patents for a couple of centuries now. They granted patents on a self-spanking machine, a recirculating toilet, an anti-eating facemask, a dog waste catcher and holder, a Santa Calus detector, and a gas collector (from living cows). Every time they grant one of these patents they are subject to ridicule and hostility. They really don't care for the negative publicity. This review system is in place to try to catch the most ridiculous before they sneak through. They even granted my grandfather a patent on a garbage truck that ate its own garbage! (Patent 2,991,947 granted July 11, 1961: Garbage Emulsifier and Disposal)

Sadly, things like perpetual motion machine patent applications are a dime a dozen. Do they work? Of course not, only in the fantasies of people who post on ATS. They violate the fundamental laws of physics. Of course, people here will claim the patent office is suppressing innovation, but how can that be so?

The patent office is not in charge of innovation. It is in the business of granting exclusive rights to inventors so that they can gain a return on investment. In other words, it is a promoter of capitalism. It does not prevent the invention and distribution of anything. In fact, any humanitarian individual or non-profit corporation not interested in profit could take on one of these free-energy systems, make them, and distribute them at cost. Why wouldn't they? They would be "saving the world." In every account of any of these devices we've ever read, they are small, rather easily reproducible, require no exotic elements, and produce a prodigious amount of energy. If they really did work, they ought to be ubiquitous. Somehow, they are not. They always requires substantial "investment," and no matter how much money is tossed their way (and it's millions), they just can't quite get there and need even more money, additional investment, then, Real Soon Now, anyone who invests will be a trillionaire and the world will be saved.

Right.



posted on Jan, 23 2012 @ 02:58 AM
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"The laws of physics"
WHO's laws are they???
It sound as though physics is merely a new religion, with it's rule books and high preists who make sure those rule books are adhered to.
The schools and universities are indoctrination centres that enforce this
YES?



posted on Jan, 25 2012 @ 09:01 PM
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If they government wants to take control of an inventor's technology, they only have to commandeer your patent with a 181 flag.



posted on Jan, 26 2012 @ 03:26 AM
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"181 flag"
What is that?
Answering My own question...thanks for that.
www.uspto.gov...
gravitor
edit on 26-1-2012 by gravitor because: found a link



posted on Jan, 28 2012 @ 01:13 PM
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Originally posted by gravitor
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"The laws of physics"
WHO's laws are they???
It sound as though physics is merely a new religion, with it's rule books and high preists who make sure those rule books are adhered to.
The schools and universities are indoctrination centres that enforce this
YES?


Who's laws are they?

They are theories of the scientific community that are capable of being falsified by tests (i.e. experiment) but that have found to yield consistent and repeatable physical results and/or measurements.

There are no high priests per se although it is thought that pursuit of academic training in a scientific discipline up to the Ph.D. (Doctor of Philosophy Degree) in physics or a subdiscipline is the best preparation for doing serious science. However, anyone can play. Find your subject and develop theories about it that can be tested in an experiment and shazam you become a priest of physics. If your theory is novel, testable and focused on a nontrivial subject you could become a Nobel Prize winner which I guess is as close as Physics comes to having a high priest.

More than places of indoctrination schools and universities are educational centers where students learn the central body of scientific knowledge that has withstood the onslaught of experiment. This body of knowledge is typically absorbed by the student and forms the intellectual foundation for science. Advanced coursework introduces the student to research protocols, theoretical and/or experimental design. In advanced research work new theories describing the behavior of some part of the physical universe are developed and tested. If theory withstands rigorous experimental test a new piece of scientific knowledge is produced and presented to the world in an article accepted for publication in a scholarly journal.

It is true that certain genius level scientists such as Newton and Einstein were able to teach themselves more than any school could. But genius is its own school. By experience and definiton very few people even those with "genius level" IQs actually pan out to be geniuses. So for the workaday scientist the schools and universities are absolutely necessary.

What is also necessary is a highly developed mathemtical competence. When nature speaks she does so in equations.

Good luck



posted on May, 22 2012 @ 11:48 PM
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