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Kansas slashes food aid for children of illegal immigrants

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posted on Jan, 23 2012 @ 07:12 PM
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This is the only other alternative aside from annexing Mexico and making it a part of the U.S.,


Yes, I think they are calling that the North American Union. Usually leftists are against it, though they are usually for no-borders.

And what that would entail is a new currency. Ever hear of the "Amero"?
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posted on Jan, 23 2012 @ 07:15 PM
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Originally posted by caf1550
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i can honestly say that i don't agree with this statement at all. why should america be volunteering to help fight MEXICO's drug war, why should america volunteer for more of my brothers in arms to die for Mexico's war on drugs, havent enough of my brothers died in the last 10 years


For that matter, why were our own Border Patrol agents brought up on charges after a drug runner ran back home and some leftist attorneys decided to represent them.



posted on Jan, 23 2012 @ 07:45 PM
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This goes to show that they would rather save money than save lives. Its as simple as that. I bet he got a raise, which is the worst part, because he found a way to save money.



posted on Jan, 23 2012 @ 08:03 PM
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I hope more states follow Ks action. It has become out of control and like others I'm sick of supporting them and watching them take more and more jobs from citizens. I'm also really tired of the American greed and the hiring practices that go with it



posted on Jan, 23 2012 @ 08:07 PM
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The article mentions briefly that "made a policy change that eliminated food stamps for hundreds of low-income U.S. children whose parents are illegal immigrants. For more households, benefits were reduced."

My question is whose household was reduced? The immigrants or the citizens?

I personally am biased with immigrants. Before 9/11 I had no problems with immigrants from all over coming here for a better life. They actually were cool and bothered to learn the language and insisted their kids learn English properly.

After 9/11 forget it. How dare anyone come to a English speaking country and then said country bends over backwards for the immigrant! This country has not forced the Latinos to learn English, they placate them by allowing them to have businesses in their native language, and speak in their language and hire them as cheap labor and let them do whatever the hell they want to do as long as they are willing to work long hours, no benefits, and little pay. Yes, some do get taxes, but we all know a whole bunch who dont, who live in an apartment with 25 other people and keep the hustle going. Then from there the crime, the drugs, and the lot. Remember a few months ago, in Minnesota, the Spanish speaking only guy that was trying to boycott Cub Foods? Nine years in the country and you don't speak English, but I'm supposed to feel sorry that you work a 20 hr day for 9 bucks an hour and you refuse to learn the lay of the land. Please.

The Spanish Speakers will be here only until their usefulness dries up and they start demanding more than a under-minimum wage.



posted on Jan, 23 2012 @ 08:15 PM
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We always hear about the 'poor' illegals. It costs these people plenty for stolen identities and fraudulaent documents to come here.

What we are seeing all across the USA are illegals taking jobs and lowering wages, Citizens suffering and falling through the cracks without help while Illegals are taking advantage of benefits through deciet and this has to stop.
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posted on Jan, 23 2012 @ 08:18 PM
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Sorry, the Warren BuUffets of the world are the ones saying to raise taxes on the wealthy and he knows he can hide his wealth and it's the middle class who pays. It's too bad you believed all that class warfare bull.


You're funny, you know that? As well as confused. You're the one who said you were tired of the class war, remember? You brought it up, said you were tired of it. See above. Your post. Then you quoted me, without using quotes, making it appear as though my post was yours. Interesting touch.

Additionally "the Warren Buffets" of the world?

There is only ONE Warren Buffet, so no cigar on that one.

I think you are arguing now for the sake of argument. You're all over the place, Dude. It helps trying to remember which side of the fence you're on, but it's all good. If you are coming around to see both sides, then I must say......... I'm pleased.


ETA: www.abovetopsecret.com...
There ya go. First time anybody brought up "class warfare", that I noticed. You. Then you say to me you are sorry I'm buying into the class warfare?

Do you have a dopleganger?


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Again:

Folks, if you know someone who is engaging in fraudulent services REPORT THEM.
If you don't, you are just repeating rumors.
Yes, I've seen those lying people, and I report them. Very simple. Call hotline. Remain anonymous. They have to look into it. Oh, bye the bye, the one's I've come across aren't typically undocumented Americans. They are usually just plain ole Americans, ya know, white, black, poor.



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posted on Jan, 23 2012 @ 08:19 PM
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I forgot to mention the anchor baby thing. That law about children was meant for the slaves way back when and has nothing to do with illegals. These children of illegals shoud not be citizens.



posted on Jan, 23 2012 @ 08:27 PM
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Like bullies who pick on the weak, politicians went after children rather than employers who gave jobs to illegal workers. Knowingly hiring illegal workers since the mid-1980s without prosecuting either employers or employees set up the US economy for a fall, which was one way to keep the 1970s inflation in check. Business could keep profits, while American workers lost income and, inevitably, wealth.

After three decades of deliberate efforts by business and industry (with help from the politicians they gave money to) to globalize labor, with benefits rising upward and burdens flowing downward, Americans are also left with an economy made up of lower wage service sector jobs and jobs they are told "Americans won't do." Agriculture, meat packing, service, and construction are all areas where business has chosen to use cheaper but illegal workers.

And business loves illegal workers for more than low wages, because illegal workers are not likely to complain about working conditions and because when you no longer need them you have your political friends either pass laws to drive them elsewhere or take food from their children.

Rather than go after who created the problem, feckless politicians prefer to go after those most effected by the problem. Truly, truly a sick twisted world.



posted on Jan, 23 2012 @ 09:30 PM
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Originally posted by apollo7keep
I agree with your points about how bad a situation it is for these people, and how they are coming to this country out of desperation. However, my question to you is why is it right for them to dump their problems onto U.S. citizens? If they were in such a destitute situation, I would think the only logical thing, if they cared about their family so much, would be to not have children in the first place! What right do they have to come to a foreign country, have a child, and then demand that every citizen of said foreign country takes care of their children? I hope other states follow Kansas' lead on this issue.


The problem is that if these children were born in the US, they are US citizens. Don't like it? Repeal the 14th Amendment. Your argument is for corruption of blood - punishment of the children for the crimes you allege were committed by their parents. You hope that other states adopt law and regulations that punish innocent children? Stay classy.
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posted on Jan, 23 2012 @ 09:54 PM
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The middle class is ready to fight for their continued existence, and you can take that to the bank. I'm happy to have a President who acknowledges it.

So, forgive me Horus, but
you are happy with the president now?

You are okay with the oppression?
And want that powers in congress, and the white house, in conjunction with the fiat currency that Federal Reserve continues to pump, and the CEOs of global expoiters perpetuate, to remain in effect?

You have stated that you agree the banking cartels are accountable....You have challenged me with numerous allegations (including rudeness and name-calling)....You have asked me questions that I have answered.

What exactly is your position? Your posts indicate that you are a Rush Limbaugh fan(atic).
That you know only what propaganda has been presented to you by extremist talking heads.
What, exactly, is your age? Your background? Your education?



posted on Jan, 23 2012 @ 09:55 PM
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Originally posted by Night Star
I forgot to mention the anchor baby thing. That law about children was meant for the slaves way back when and has nothing to do with illegals. These children of illegals shoud not be citizens.


Yeah and the whole thing about getting warrants before searches had nothing to do with wiretapping your phones because they didn't have phones back then. Your archaic and selective interpretation of the Constitution is disturbing. This country was founded by immigrants from other countries looking for a better life for their children. To fault someone for following the same drive that brought your ancestors here is hypocritical. Worse, however, is your attitude with regard to innocent children who have no way to change the location of their birth. You think they are better off being deported to a country they've never set foot in? That makes sense to you?
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posted on Jan, 23 2012 @ 10:08 PM
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The 3 Branches of the Federal Government, Congressional/Executive/Judicial.....no longer define an American as a citizen of a State.

Kansas will be punished by the Federal Government for this. Watch.

Starting in 2000 illegals were getting new car loans, with no ID's.
Starting in 2005 illegals were getting mortgages, with no ID's.

15 million illegals bought and sold homes between themselves and fled America with Trillions. Google "HUD 5 million illegals foreclosure".

California LOVED its mega millions of illegals because it got them more House of Representative Seats...so they could rob other States of Federal Appropriations. Yep...illegals got California more House of Rep seats...so they could steal from the other States.

This country has been robbed blind. US, the poor people can't get jobs and have gotten poorer. Mexico's been frekin' BOOMING! Along with the pockets of America's elite.
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posted on Jan, 23 2012 @ 10:09 PM
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My posts indicate that I cited ONE statement Rush made about the number of people on food stamps in New York city alone, 2.9 million out of 7 million. I think that's a lot of people to be on food stamps, period! How many times do I have to keep telling you I am anti-Statist? My point with that is the same as Rush's and many others who have taken note of the President's methodology of increasing dependency on the State, while decreasing jobs in the private sector.
Is that really so hard to understand?
I know you mean well and your heart is in the right place.

All I am going to offer now is this report on Marxism in the Church

religiousleftexposed.com...

You have picked on me endlessly, and yet others here have made far more drastic statements than I have. I wonder why that is?
As you said, peace



posted on Jan, 23 2012 @ 10:20 PM
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The difference is, the liberal left and the Statists are allowing the influx of illegals for the purpose of overwhelming the system, a la Cloward/Piven, and not just with illegals, but other forms of entitlements and unfunded liabilities and the Affordable HealthCare Act as well.

If you don't know about Cloward/Piven, then here's a good little synopsis for you


It is time to cast aside all remaining doubt. President Obama is not trying to lead America forward to recovery, prosperity and strength. Quite the opposite, in fact.
In September of last year, American Thinker published my article, Barack Obama and the Strategy of Manufactured Crisis. Part of a series, it connected then-presidential candidate Barack Obama to individuals and organizations practicing a malevolent strategy for destroying our economy and our system of government. Since then, the story of that strategy has found its way across the blogosphere, onto the airwaves of radio stations across the country, the Glenn Beck television show, Bill O'Reilly, and now Mark Levin.
The methodology is known as the Cloward-Piven Strategy, and we can all be grateful to David Horowitz and his Discover the Networks for originally exposing and explaining it to us. He describes it as:
The strategy of forcing political change through orchestrated crisis. The "Cloward-Piven Strategy" seeks to hasten the fall of capitalism by overloading the government bureaucracy with a flood of impossible demands, thus pushing society into crisis and economic collapse.


Richard Cloward and Frances Fox Piven were two lifelong members of Democratic Socialists of America who taught sociology at Columbia University (Piven later went on to City University of New York). In a May 1966 Nation magazine article titled "The Weight of the Poor," they outlined their strategy, proposing to use grassroots radical organizations to push ever more strident demands for public services at all levels of government.
The result, they predicted, would be "a profound financial and political crisis" that would unleash "powerful forces ... for major economic reform at the national level

www.americanthinker.com...


So, while many people do mean well and truly do not want to see people suffer, what they haven't taken into account is this Cloward/Piven strategy, which it entirely for the purpose of destroying Capitalism in this country and replacing it with a Socialist Direct Democracy or even communism, because that is the end goal of socialism.



posted on Jan, 23 2012 @ 10:25 PM
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We need to change the law that states, if you were born here and your parents are illegal you are not a citizen. Parents need to be citizens inorder for the child to be a citizen.



posted on Jan, 23 2012 @ 10:33 PM
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do I have to keep telling you I am anti-Statist?



Statism is effectively the opposite of anarchism.


Okay, please give me a clearer picture of this anti-Statist stance.
Are you an anarchist?
I really don't understand, Horus. My apologies.
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posted on Jan, 23 2012 @ 10:43 PM
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man, reading a lot of these comments is disappointing and at the same time, sad. here we live in the best country in the world, one of the richest.. yet full of ignorance and greed. dont give me that bull# about "well, they are breaking the law"..i understand..but denying anyone food, FOOOOOOOD...which is needed to survive, is not something id expect from an "American"..im willing to pay a little more so others less fortunate can go to bed not having to worry about food. some of you people on here sicken me



posted on Jan, 23 2012 @ 10:51 PM
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Originally posted by FEJ1106
We need to change the law that states,
if you were born here and your parents are illegal you are not a citizen.

Parents need to be citizens inorder for the child to be a citizen.



Thats strange, I thought people born here were legally considered citizens.

Anyway.......WHY are you going after CHILDREN who's parents have done wrong?

Are the CHILDREN guilty for their parents crimes??



posted on Jan, 23 2012 @ 11:20 PM
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No children should suffer malnourishments? Most chilren are malnourished, because of the junk their parents feed them. It disgusts me every time that I go to McDonald(to buy the strawberry-lemonade mix) and see so many cute kids eating there. These foods act like dynamite in their children's body, and their parents don't even know it. Now at first, they have a "grace period," where the calories will make them grow. However, once that slows down(because the body doesn't produce as much growth hormones, and the body has nowhere to put the calories), then if it doesn't make them fat(if they have a tendency to store fat), it makes them ugly(by making their nose grow bigger), or break out through their skin, and causes acne. Later in their life, if they keep doing it, then it causes cancer, by storing them in unwanted places, or heart attacks, by coagulating in their blood.

As you can see, ANYWHERE the body can store the calories, it will store it(fortunately, it's smart enough to store it in the least to most dangerous manner.) Basically, what I've learned is that most health and "cosmetic" problems are just the body's response to overeating(though genes do play a role of course). It's not a coincidence that most of the beautiful women(in both America and Asian countries) were either born in the 70's and 80's, when fastfood was absent. The ones that are beaufiul these days are vegetarians, for example, Hayden Panitierre and Carrie Underwood. Now, instead of Britney Spears and Christina Aguilera battling each other, you now have Lady Gaga.

The truth is, most kids don't really need more than a couple pieces of fruit and a little white chicken(or protein, I think this is important because the organs are made of protein, so they need this so that their organs can develop properly) per day. And I'd argue they'd have a much better chance of growing up beautiful or "cute," if they did that. Feed your kids only when they're hungry, and not it's because it's time for them to eat.

In fact, I'd argue that most people, especially if they stay in front of their computer all day, can cut their daily calories in half(and thus cut their food costs in half), and that is eat only when they're truly hungry(which most of the times they're not, they're either hungry because of stress OR the food from the previous meal hasn't fully been digested yet, you can prove this by drinking water, every time you're hungry. If you're STILL hungry by then, then you know you need to eat), and only until they're full(and not because this stuff is good, I have to eat all of it), they'd live longer(see calorie-restriction), and avoid most health problems.

Eat less, and save money on food and healthcare. You can also just plant apple seeds around your house, and live off that. Your kids will grow up short, which means they'll have even less need for food. If everybody does it, then eventually, humans will evolve to become elves, and thus have even less need for food(the smaller you are, the less energy, i.e calories you need.)



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