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posted on Jan, 23 2012 @ 04:24 PM
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Why is it 'unquestionable'? How have you determined that no natural cirrus did, would or could have occurred on those days?

Do you think that this country would naturally have no clouds in the sky for most of the year without aircraft?
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posted on Jan, 23 2012 @ 04:25 PM
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Originally posted by Aloysius the Gaul

Originally posted by jackmac

Originally posted by Aloysius the Gaul

Originally posted by jackmac

Is this what you'd like to see?


It is an answer to your question - nothing more or less.

Are you going to try to lead me down a path of revelation with some variant of 20 questions, or do you have a point that you should make now??


Sorry, but I can't see the answer...




go read the post you made then - you asked 3 questions - I provided answers to each.

Here's what you posted - www.abovetopsecret.com...

I would have thought you would have read what you were posting before actually posting it?!!


It appeared as something of a non sequitur, obtuse etc. Is it so hard to answer a question?

Animal, vegetable or mineral?
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posted on Jan, 23 2012 @ 04:26 PM
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Originally posted by jackmac

I didn't introduce advertising actually; I was agreeing with the person who did, is that ok with you?[/qyuote]

More to the point is it OK with you, since you take me to task for mentioning it as being OT - or is it only that disagreeing with you is OT, but agreeing is fine??


The rest is semantics


Really? whether the trails block the sun or attenuate it is semantics?? I would have thought it is a very important matter to establish just what is happening.

I'm surprised you think otherwise!



posted on Jan, 23 2012 @ 04:27 PM
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Here's a question (again): is there a great proliferation of aircraft induced cirrus in the world today?



posted on Jan, 23 2012 @ 04:27 PM
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Originally posted by jackmac

go read the post you made then - you asked 3 questions - I provided answers to each.

Here's what you posted - www.abovetopsecret.com...

I would have thought you would have read what you were posting before actually posting it?!!


It appeared as something of a non sequitur, obtuse etc. Is it so hard to answer a question?

Animal, vegetable or mineral


The answers are still there - and now I conclude you are just trolling by asking nonsensical questions & refusing to acknowledge clear answers to your questions.
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posted on Jan, 23 2012 @ 04:30 PM
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Originally posted by jackmac
Here's a question (again): is there a great proliferation of aircraft induced cirrus in the world today?


Are you going to acknowledge the answer this time??

There has certainly been an increase in aircraft induced cirrus in the world today, compared with an arbitrary time in the past - but say anything more than 10 years, and certainly since the widespread introduction of passenger jets. Excepting some periods of WW2!


Whether it is "great" or not in terms of quantity depends on how you define "great".



posted on Jan, 23 2012 @ 04:34 PM
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Originally posted by Chamberf=6
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but greed, sex and power are the more basic motives.


How is sex a motive for so-called "chemtrails"?


Truly, your avatar, speaks to more savvy than that. Still...I'm going to spell it out for you on the off chance that it's wannabe savvy: The public, at large, notices white lines in the sky. Letters are written to congresspersons and senate persons. Phone calls are made. Samples are tested. Websites spring up. Explanations are given variously, in the beginning, as military maneuvers. Internet websites and blogs take on a life of their own. Whistle blowers come out. They are discredited as lunatics. The internet becomes a wildfire of speculation. Pictures tell a 1,000 words. A pseudo-science, written by short-sighted individuals, springs up with websites of its' own to 'explain' what is seen. Individuals, who know better but have pasts or tawdry proclivities, are recruited to promote websites and 'science' that combats observation. I.e., "...it's normal for the sky to be full of white lines that turn into cirrus that occlude the sky and night sky." Further..., "it's normal for the sun to be blocked by white lines that turn into cirrus."



posted on Jan, 23 2012 @ 04:35 PM
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Originally posted by waynos
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Why is it 'unquestionable'? How have you determined that no natural cirrus did, would or could not have occurred on those days?

Do you think that this country would naturally have no clouds in the sky for most of the year without aircraft?


It's unquestionable for anyone who's watched (observed) it taking place. It's called believing what you see. I don't think it's a conjurer's trick...if some cirrus 'formed anyway'...well, haven't we been over that one? They would be in a different time and place and with a different trigger - that is unquestionable.

'Do you think that this country would naturally have no clouds in the sky for most of the year without aircraft?'
I should have done you the favour of editing this, but I've left it in. Where did I indicate that?
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posted on Jan, 23 2012 @ 04:35 PM
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So you can't actually make a connection there at all!

no great surprise - but I was sort of looking forward to a more entertaining answer!



posted on Jan, 23 2012 @ 04:42 PM
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The public, at large, notices white lines in the sky. Letters are written to congresspersons and senate persons. Phone calls are made. Samples are tested. Websites spring up. Explanations are given variously, in the beginning, as military maneuvers. Internet websites and blogs take on a life of their own. Whistle blowers come out. They are discredited as lunatics. The internet becomes a wildfire of speculation. Pictures tell a 1,000 words. A pseudo-science, written by short-sighted individuals, springs up with websites of its' own to 'explain' what is seen. Individuals, who know better but have pasts or tawdry proclivities, are recruited to promote websites and 'science' that combats observation. I.e., "...it's normal for the sky to be full of white lines that turn into cirrus that occlude the sky and night sky." Further..., "it's normal for the sun to be blocked by white lines that turn into cirrus."


Aaaaannnnd that explains sex as "motive for chemtrails".................how?
I had asked "How is sex a motive for so-called "chemtrails"?" And you gave me the above.


And this line:


A pseudo-science, written by short-sighted individuals, springs up with websites of its' own to 'explain' what is seen.


Does this mean you think contrails are "psuedo-science"?
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posted on Jan, 23 2012 @ 04:45 PM
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Originally posted by Aloysius the Gaul
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So you can't actually make a connection there at all!

no great surprise - but I was sort of looking forward to a more entertaining answer!


In order to be entertained, one needs to be entertaining. I object to obfuscation. Who is the enemy? The global population against one psycho? If the sky-sun-stars are being obscured for our benefit - why not just say so? Why tell us that a pig is a goat? The plot thickens.



posted on Jan, 23 2012 @ 04:48 PM
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Originally posted by jackmac


It's unquestionable for anyone who's watched (observed) it taking place. It's called believing what you see. I don't think it's a conjurer's trick...if some cirrus 'formed anyway'...well, haven't we been over that one? They would be in a different time and place and with a different trigger - that is unquestionable.


That is simply a reiteration of the assertion, not an answer to the question. Do you understand how discussion works?



'Do you think that this country would naturally have no clouds in the sky for most of the year without aircraft?'
I should have done you the favour of editing this, but I've left it in. Where did I indicate that?


If you could cut out the faux arrogance about doing me any favours, maybe you would comprehend that that, too, was only a question. Yes or no is sufficient.



posted on Jan, 23 2012 @ 04:53 PM
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Originally posted by luxordelphi

Originally posted by Aloysius the Gaul
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So you can't actually make a connection there at all!

no great surprise - but I was sort of looking forward to a more entertaining answer!


In order to be entertained, one needs to be entertaining. I object to obfuscation.



And yet you are SO good at it!


Who is the enemy?


Ignorance and duplicity.


The global population against one psycho?


Obsfucation agasin - meaningless question - no context, no subject,....


If the sky-sun-stars are being obscured for our benefit - why not just say so?


Indeed - I'll go with "Because the sky-sun-stars are not being obscured enough to worry about in the first palce so they hypothetical question is meaningless." for 10 please!

and since it is only an "If" how about this one -

IF the sky-sun-stars are not being particularly obscured much at all, why hyperventilate about it?


Why tell us that a pig is a goat?p/quote]

Who said that??


The plot thickens.


Yes - why is it that people keep claiming chemtrails exist and then refuse to carry out the required test to show that is true, or to provide the evidence that they claim to have?

Why are they denying the world this information??



posted on Jan, 23 2012 @ 04:56 PM
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If they were spraying something in the air in the form of "chemtrails" to kill us, we would be dead many times over by now, or mutated, or whatever they wanted to accomplish.

Don't see anybody walking around in a gas mask. Don't see airline pilots in gas masks, or TPTB in gas masks.


These are contrails. Aiplanes have contrails.



posted on Jan, 23 2012 @ 04:57 PM
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Originally posted by crankyoldman
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This is the correct question, one rarely, if ever asked.

The elements contained in the sky soup, aluminum, barium, iron, nickel etc. all do one key thing - block energy.

The effort put forth is not to change the weather, or poison us - those are cover efforts, but to block out energy from beyond earth. The elements included in the soup are designed to shield the earth from energy that is, and will, evolve the human population. In a simple, obvious way, radiation alters DNA. Those in charge look to stop this process for all of mankind.

Some will say, "then why don't 'they' cover the entire sky, every day of the year?
This is logistically not possible, nor is it needed. The energy coming in is defined by quality, quantity and location of origin. A geometric scheme to diffuse the most amount of energy with the least amount of effort and planes are sent up. Some planes are activated in flight, but very few have this capacity. The planes then dump to shield via the grid created for the incoming evolutionary energy.

Those doing the activities are told they are saving the world from global warming and the total destruction of the earth. They feel they are hero's for carrying out the top secret mission to save all of mankind from its demise while scientist from around the world look for a "cure" to the problem. This eliminates rogue actions pilots and suppliers.

One can easily track the process. Watch for waves on incoming energy, if you happen to be over one of the grid lines that distribute energy throughout the planet, then that energy should correspond to a milky white sky.


Interesting Mr. Crank. I also believe these pilots and indeed all involved (ncluding
governments) believe they are acting heroically according to some (probably BS)
narrative fed to them by the powers that rule (who, we may rest assured, are not out
for the betterment of mankind).
I don't believe these trails are laid with the sole purpose of blocking the sun but your
post is interesting.
Where do you believe this energy emanates from and when do you believe this
energy inundation began?
Also I don't believe chemtrailing is a worldwide phemonena yet. Is some this energy
entering in unhindered through these unsprayed areas?

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posted on Jan, 23 2012 @ 05:06 PM
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They block it because without it the world would be too hot. Look it up. The 3 days after 911 when planes weren't allowed to fly the Earth's templerature rose by about 1.7 f.



posted on Jan, 23 2012 @ 05:07 PM
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I also believe these pilots and indeed all involved....


Oh, good.....now we're getting somewhere!

Can you provide one, just one verifiable source for any of these "pilots" or others "involved" who have come forward to 'blow the whistle'??

And, with "pilots", this means you have to have the "airplanes" too.....are there any photos of the airplanes? With the sort of "spraying" apparatus that would be needed to exactly mimic the things that every other rational and experienced person recognize as normal contrails.....since they are formed immediately behind the engines, in every case?? EVERY case, did I mention that?



posted on Jan, 23 2012 @ 05:09 PM
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This is not a fact, sorry:


The 3 days after 911 when planes weren't allowed to fly the Earth's templerature rose by about 1.7 f.


It is something that is typically spread as misinformation, though.....which is a solid foundation for the entire "chemtrail" idea, come to think of it.

"Chemtrails" as a concept rely on misinformation and people's ignorance in order to keep them going in people's minds.....



posted on Jan, 23 2012 @ 05:13 PM
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I couldn't tell you why they block the sun... Although I do agree with you that those don't look too natural... I always wondered what the purpose of such a trail could be good video man maybe one day I'll record some chem trails over here in the southwest region of the U.S.



posted on Jan, 23 2012 @ 05:13 PM
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My Thoughts On This Situation Are That Chemtrails/Contrails .
What difference does it make they both block the sun.
Ever heard of fuel addatives ?
Whats in That Jet Fuel Comprised mostly of Kerosene ?
Why Should we be blocking the sun ?
For what reason ?
My Point Is There is tooooooo much crap in the air and the atmosphere already.




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