Originally posted by FreeSpeaker

Originally posted by network dude
I do not believe in chemtrails. I have looked at both sides and science and common sense will not allow me to believe it.

I feel the same but do you think you will change someones mind with ridicule?

Just to be clear, I think a person who refuses to listen to all the science that has been presented refuting the possibility that every line in the sky lasting over 2 minutes (or whatever the official time is) is a chemtrail, should be proactive. If they truly believe the bad man is doing bad things to them, typing lots of words will not help them. You watching out for their fragile feelings will not help them. The only thing that will help them is to see for themselves first hand. I don't need anything proven to me.

My suggestion to all of them is to form a group, fund a test flight, and prove or disprove once and for all.

I may try to provoke a response but a group hug isn't cutting it.

I don't know if this will make any difference or will actually be taken any notice of by the chemtrail believers,but here goes anyway.

When I was an aircraft spotting young teenager back in the early to mid 1970s,I used to spend all my summer holidays watching the nice clear blue skies over southern England (and we had PROPER summers even in the UK back in those days) with my binoculars and manual tuning Sharp AM airband receiver,so I had a pretty good idea what every contrail I saw was.I lived right underneath UR37 (Upper Red 37) as it was called then which was quite a busy airway,so I got used to seeing how contrails reacted over time.I soon got to learn from nothing more than using my own eyes that as the trails started to linger for longer and longer and became more persistent,the weather was about to change for the worse.Every time the day started and there were already lingering trails there when I woke up I knew there was a weather front approaching,and by the end of that day the sky would have gone from deep blue to manky grey and it'd be raining by the next day.

If a 13 year old schoolboy of average intelligence could work out just by using his eyes and a bit of common sense back in the pre-internet era that the approaching weather front caused the trails to be a LOT more persistent,and not the other way round where the trails caused the weather to change,then why can't grown up and more mature/intelligent adults also believe in such a simple concept? At that age I had an open mind (I still do actually) and didn't have my judgement of what was happening around me clouded (pardon the pun) by what I read on the internet,which from my own observations I'd have to guess at about 75% bull# or science fiction and the rest is science fact.

My dad who served as a fitter armourer in our FAA (Fleet Air Arm) in the second world war told me on many many occasions about the same thing over south east England as the Battle of Britain took place over head with Spitfires,Hurricanes,Messerschmits etc etc and the whole sky would be blotted out with countless hundreds of contrails going in every possible direction.

So I have empirical evidence that what are now believed by some people to be chemtrails that started in the 1990s were there some 20 years or more before this,and I even have the eyewitness account of someone with no reason to lie to me (he was a librarian and not a CIA shill) that they showed the exact same characteristics as today but a whole 70 years ago.That's a hell of discrepancy isn't it when according to the chemtrail believers,they only started "spraying" about 20 years ago.How do they explain in that case if back then they were just water vapour,how did they linger all day long without the chemicals we have to mix with them nowadays?

Chris.

My suggestion to all of them is to form a group, fund a test flight, and prove or disprove once and for all.

I may try to provoke a response but a group hug isn't cutting it

I'll chip in a dollar or two. Imagine if just half a million people would do that, we would be up there taking samples in no time (and ending the endless chemtrail -real or hoax?- discussion). Because then we would have physical proof in our hands....if "they" let us is the big question.