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reply posted on 22-1-2012 @ 12:11 PM by garyishere
reply to post by wlasikiewicz



I always have an open mind.

In the 1960's I was told the world was definitely going to end in 1974.
In 1974 when the world did not end, I was told it was surely going to end in 1976.
In 1976 when the world did not end, I was told it was surely going to end shortly before 2000
When the world did not end in 2000, I was told it was surely going to end in 2012.

Prior to the year 2000 I never even heard of the Mayan calender and I was always searching for esoteric knowledge.

Do you catch my drift....?


reply posted on 22-1-2012 @ 12:34 PM by AceWombat04
While I don't have any statistical analysis to prove it, in the absence of the same in support of the claim, I don't think I can agree at this point that there are more UFO sightings/videos/reports than in decades past. I've been watching for decades, and sightings, reports, and footage all seem to show up at about the same rate. If anything, I'd say there were more frequent and well advertised sightings during the 1990s due to the huge sci-fi/UFO/abduction craze that came about back then due to shows like Sightings and the X-Files. It was in the public consciousness a lot more then if my memory serves.

There are a lot more YouTube videos of indistinct lights in recent years, to be sure, but the vast majority of those are readily explained through mundane means, and that could easily be chalked up to the ubiquity of video phones now. (Which is certainly not to discount the few that have yet to be explained. As in all UFO research, those "few" are the crux of the matter.) I could be wrong. Maybe there are statistically more sightings now than in years past, and if so, please provide me with that data, as I'd be interested in seeing it. I am not asserting my opinion as a fact, but merely expressing my subjective perception based on personal experience.

As for the claims of "the Russians" spotting life on Venus, if you read that topic thoroughly it becomes evident that there doesn't appear to be any relevant research published by the physicist the stories claim made the discovery, and that the webpage for the agency ostensibly credited with it shows nothing of the sort. The only information anyone was able to find on this supposed physicist were other related stories, like one where he says aliens created the Nazca lines with high powered lasers, and another where he says the solar system was created by aliens. I.e. - at least that I can see - there is no hard proof or compelling evidence that would persuade me that life has been spotted on Venus by legitimate Russian scientists. I could be wrong, so if you have access to evidence to the contrary please let me know.

Failing that though, I have to pint out that disclosure has been promised, advertised, predicted, and outright prophesized for countless dates over the years. For as long as I've been enamored with these subjects (going on 20 years now) there have been claims that disclosure was imminent, and I have every reason to believe it has been for decades prior to that as well. Therefore I see no compelling reason to suspect that disclosure is any more imminent now than any of the other times. Which is not to say that it won't happen. I just can't see a compelling reason to think that it will.

And then we have the consider that possibility we all find unpalatable and unpleasant in the extreme, but which is still a scenario we must consider if we are truly as rational and open minded as we claim to be: that there is nothing to disclose. That UFO phenomena are the result of a nexus of entirely terrestrial technologies, atmospheric phenomena we have yet to identify or explain, misidentification, and/or other Earthly explanations. Again, I'm not saying it has to be. But we can't simply discount the possibility because we want aliens to be visiting us in my opinion. Especially when belief in visitation could potentially serve as an excellent cover and method of discrediting for an arguably even more ominous, but entirely human project that for all we know could be underway.

Just my highly speculative two cents. Peace.



reply posted on 22-1-2012 @ 08:39 PM by OwenandNoelle
reply to post by wlasikiewicz



I would love for there to be disclosure in 2012. Unfortunately though, so many UFO researchers (albeit usually the kooky ones) have stated that disclosure was going to happen soon. But then nothing ever happens.

Reminds me of the “boy who cried wolf.” I do for sure believe that there is intelligent life out there and I think there is convincing evidence that earth has been visited either now and/or in the past. But the people in the know seem to have no intention of “coming clean” anytime soon.

I almost think it’s up the aliens to publicly introduce themselves rather than our governments. Perhaps the aliens find us too barbaric or immature as a species?


reply posted on 22-1-2012 @ 10:06 PM by Darkmask
reply to post by Just Chris



There's only two ways about this now if you ask me. Either A) It's gonna all boil up and explode into an Alien Invasion (Real/Fake/Peaceful/Violent on December 21st 2012 or B) We're never gonna find out (It's well over 60 years since Roswell)!

I don't believe there will ever be any official disclosure either. The longer they wait, the easier it is for them to hide the truth and explain away the phenomena.

We were never ment to "know".

Maybe disclosure will happen when they come to cleans this planet of our presence.

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