Lamar, the author of SOPA comes back with an even worse bill

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posted on Jan, 22 2012 @ 07:48 AM
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Some of the worst pedophiles and child sexual abusers come out of D.C. I love how these people continue to cloak themselves in morality, and try to pass their agendas as concern about children.




posted on Jan, 22 2012 @ 07:51 AM
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Originally posted by Lapislazuli
What will be the line in the sand for us? When will enough be enough?

I'm ready whenever you guys are


Well, the line in the sand didn't happen when they started touching people in the airports.

I guess we'll have to wait and see.



posted on Jan, 22 2012 @ 08:18 AM
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Great thread and catch. Apparently this fight is FAR from over, and we won't be given the chance to relax between battles as it appeared.


I wonder just how deeply the Record and Movie industry is into Lamar's pockets and reelection funding? The man is on a crusade I really question the motivations for at this point. Given how hard SOPA was just thrown back at this idiot, it's baffling to see him come right back without letting things at least settle a bit.

I smell the rank stench of corruption. Perhaps someone in a position of power ought to look into that and see if there is more to it? Hmm... Just maybe, throwing his sorry butt out of office IS possible. I guess it depends on how much there might be to find for someone with the tools to properly look.



posted on Jan, 22 2012 @ 08:36 AM
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Anyone who decries something as "being for the children" should be hit over the head repeatedly with a hammer until such stupid comments dribble out of the talk hole.


AHHHGGGG!!!!!
Government, get out of our lives.

Hey, how about you balance the budget instead of wasting time on this crap.



posted on Jan, 22 2012 @ 08:39 AM
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Yeah this guy just does'nt give up, i hope he losses his next election but from what iv'e seen with the jerry rigging the election districts i would'nt hold out much hope.



posted on Jan, 22 2012 @ 08:42 AM
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This ones going to be hard to fight. Anyone opposed will look like they either A. have something to hide or B. defenders of creeps. But why not create a bill that targets the owners (IPs) of sites that are hosting? Just find violators. shut their sites down and throw them in jail for exploiting children. set a few harsh examples and soon the internet would be policing itself and screening content befor hosting. Thats right, that makes too much sense, thats not whay this is about. They want to expand the all seeing eye further into our lives.



posted on Jan, 22 2012 @ 08:45 AM
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Originally posted by macman
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Anyone who decries something as "being for the children" should be hit over the head repeatedly with a hammer until such stupid comments dribble out of the talk hole.


AHHHGGGG!!!!!
Government, get out of our lives.

Hey, how about you balance the budget instead of wasting time on this crap.



Exactly this!
Why doesnt the gov just lock up every adult in the nation the doesnt hold a government position? Afterall, eventually we are all going to commit a sex crime because everyone is a ruthless sex crazed lunatic in this country!

Make you wonder if the people in charge of passing this legislature do it so they can have unlimited access to the "evidence".

SOPA creators: "Dont worry Frank, Ill just take these child porn images and clips home with me and really study them... we will all be safer if I do this. See yous tomorrow!"
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posted on Jan, 22 2012 @ 09:06 AM
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Since its impossible to protest 'against' the entire existence of such a bill (for reasons already explained) any counter campaign must be 'for' an amendment to make it more effective against the stated targets (child pornographers).

With a warrant (following reasonable cause of viewing or participating in child porn) the monitoring provisions of the bill can be enacted against an individual to collect the evidence necessary to build the case.

That protects civil liberties of the majority while still fighting CP. It strikes a balance while pulling the teeth of the Orwellian aspects of the bill.



posted on Jan, 22 2012 @ 09:19 AM
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When they put the SOPA in cold storage, I suspected they will come out with something cleverer than that.

This bill should be correctly titled "Ending of Internet Anonymity Act", because that is what intends to achieve. So far the technology to end internet anonymity existed, but there was no legal mechanism to force the ISPs to collect and provide that information to law enforcement upon demand.

But this should not be difficult to beat for those bent on doing it. You can purchase a VPN subscription from a proxy provider in a different country. All your ISP can record will be the fact that you are connected to the proxy in a different country. Your activity may be recorded by the proxy provider in the other country, but would not be readily available to the law enforcement in your country.



posted on Jan, 22 2012 @ 09:38 AM
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Well, they just need to call it "Sopa 2.0" and do the same protest/campaign.

Politicians have always used children to pass laws, especially when it comes to sex.



posted on Jan, 22 2012 @ 09:50 AM
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You know what the best way to protect children from material they are too young to be accessing is - PARENTAL RESPONSIBILITY. Stop giving your children smartphones, laptops, tablets and games consoles and giving them free reign to do whatever the heck they want with them, alone and unsupervised, just because it shuts them up and makes your life easier.

Parents are responsible for their children's actions, not the state.



posted on Jan, 22 2012 @ 09:52 AM
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damn these sob's ....so now if your against this bill your for child porn and I'd wager this wont even stop and slow the distribution of child porn . This I fear will pass .



posted on Jan, 22 2012 @ 10:01 AM
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I find it interesting. Right now the internet if used properly (I mean that in a very loose sense of the word) by the government, could be a useful tool. By that I mean, if I was the government and was worried about terrorism, civil war, any anti-government protesting, opinion, etc....why would I restrict what the people are saying on the internet, if it could help warn me and give me knowledge of such events??

Why?

Because of fear. The ability of the people to also use the internet as a tool to figure out just exactly what the government is up to and hiding. Fearing the ability of the people to communicate and organize evidence and events to a situation with ease.

The government doesn't want to protect the children. They want to use the children to hide their dirty secrets and prevent you and me from discovering the truth, globally communicating the truth, and organizing the end to their ridiculousness.

That's why



posted on Jan, 22 2012 @ 10:11 AM
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I'm just waiting....waiting for the last right we have stripped from us, then maybe just then people will say NO MORE



posted on Jan, 22 2012 @ 10:11 AM
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death to this man and all the rest of his supporters for treason!

there is nothing else to say other then that, death to them all for treason!



posted on Jan, 22 2012 @ 10:17 AM
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Originally posted by VelvetSplash
You know what the best way to protect children from material they are too young to be accessing is - PARENTAL RESPONSIBILITY. Stop giving your children smartphones, laptops, tablets and games consoles and giving them free reign to do whatever the heck they want with them, alone and unsupervised, just because it shuts them up and makes your life easier.

Parents are responsible for their children's actions, not the state.


All due respect, the State is seizing the rights of parents more and more. That doesn't excuse lack of oversight, but parents can no longer actively control their children's behavior without govt interference. And guess what, Hillary's "It takes A Village" will take on a whole new meaning as the UN implementations on "Rights of the Child" begin to filter down to the cities.
Observe how many of the laws the cities and local governments are making reflect the views and models of UN Agenda 21. All that nonsense about sustainability comes out of that document.

How dare these people allow SIECUS and Planned Parenthood put sexually explicit material in front of the children in the public schools without parental permission and then make laws tracking everyone's movement on the Internet in the name of catching predators.
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posted on Jan, 22 2012 @ 10:18 AM
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Exactly, look at the governments own record when it comes to "protecting children"... CPS, vaccines, letting pedophiles out of prison, D.C. is the biggest offender. They care not about children, this is nothing more than a trap. It is not the government's job to protect children, it the community's responsibility, it's the parents responsibility. Opponents of this bill should protest in the exact same way they did for SOPA and PIPA. We can't let the government play this reverse-psychology BS and get away with it.

The saddest part is that we KNOW D.C. is full of pedophiles and users of child pornography and nothing is done. That is beyond sad!! I hope they burn!!



posted on Jan, 22 2012 @ 10:19 AM
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Paedophilia isn't something that was born and spread through the Internet. It's a deprevated psychopaty that was LEGAL and COMMON PRATICE in the middle ages in royal families throughout Europe (the centre of the world back then). 30/40 years-old marrying and inpregnating 12/13/14 year-olds; preteens conceived and raised SPECIFICALLY for that purpouse.

And before that, there are reports of child paedophilia and pornographic experiences involving adults and minors from the Roman Empire.

Still today, do you think catholic priests raped little children thanks to the Internet? No. They were the local priests, that everyone trusts, the greatest social well-doers in the communities...

Conclusion: the sickest paedophiles aren't the ones surfing online. Those are just sick people, but rarely arm anyone. The real monsters are amongst us, with a stable professional life, probably with an established family, and probably interact with our children on a daily basis (teachers, priests, doctors, lawyers, hedge-funders, accountants, etc, respectable professions), and we don't have a F'in clue about it.

This is just another scapegoat to push through legislation that restricts people's individual rights and liberties. A mere PR move. Just like the american Patriot Act after 9/11.



posted on Jan, 22 2012 @ 10:22 AM
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Originally posted by six67seven
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Exactly, look at the governments own record when it comes to "protecting children"... CPS, vaccines, letting pedophiles out of prison, D.C. is the biggest offender. They care not about children, this is nothing more than a trap. It is not the government's job to protect children, it the community's responsibility, it's the parents responsibility. Opponents of this bill should protest in the exact same way they did for SOPA and PIPA. We can't let the government play this reverse-psychology BS and get away with it.

The saddest part is that we KNOW D.C. is full of pedophiles and users of child pornography and nothing is done. That is beyond sad!! I hope they burn!!



Indeed, these people's idea of protecting children is to put sexual material in front of them in kindergarten.



posted on Jan, 22 2012 @ 10:22 AM
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Originally posted by Toorop
Paedophilia isn't something that was born and spread through the Internet. It's a deprevated psychopaty that was LEGAL and COMMON PRATICE in the middle ages in royal families throughout Europe (the centre of the world back then). 30/40 years-old marrying and inpregnating 12/13/14 year-olds; preteens conceived and raised SPECIFICALLY for that purpouse.

And before that, there are reports of child paedophilia and pornographic experiences involving adults and minors from the Roman Empire.

Still today, do you think catholic priests raped little children thanks to the Internet? No. They were the local priests, that everyone trusts, the greatest social well-doers in the communities...

Conclusion: the sickest paedophiles aren't the ones surfing online. Those are just sick people, but rarely arm anyone. The real monsters are amongst us, with a stable professional life, probably with an established family, and probably interact with our children on a daily basis (teachers, priests, doctors, lawyers, hedge-funders, accountants, etc, respectable professions), and we don't have a F'in clue about it.

This is just another scapegoat to push through legislation that restricts people's individual rights and liberties. A mere PR move. Just like the american Patriot Act after 9/11.


Although you are partially right, it started WAY before dark age europe or even the roman empire...





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