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Topic started on 13-9-2004 @ 09:03 PM by WestPoint23

The US navy will start to place metal storm guns on its ships to use as a defense against missiles or RPG’s. If all testing goes well this new technology will be coming to a US sip near you.

Metal Storm will take the lead role in a US Navy program to develop a system to defeat incoming rocket propelled grenades (RPGs). The program is part of a Phase 1 Small Business Innovation Research (SBIR) award to the company's US subsidiary, Metal Storm.
Metal Storm will be prime contractor in this funded program designed to demonstrate the feasibility of producing an RPG defense system that integrates Metal Storm's electronic ballistics technology with the sensor, mount and fire control system of subcontractor Northrop Grumman

www.spacedaily.com...

reply posted on 13-9-2004 @ 09:37 PM by Bongobob

Can you please define "Metal Storm"?

reply posted on 13-9-2004 @ 09:55 PM by Spectre

Here is their website and a few links to older ATS discussions on Metalstorm
www.metalstorm.com...

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reply posted on 13-9-2004 @ 09:57 PM by Bongobob

ok.. thanks.. so, its like.. a Fragmentation grenade in weapon-grade size?.. That would have to be very useful in many cases

reply posted on 14-9-2004 @ 02:06 AM by drfunk

A innovative Australian company

reply posted on 14-9-2004 @ 02:33 AM by D

Originally posted by drfunk
A innovative Australian company

Sure is. Read an interview with the guy who started Metal Storm. Pretty amazing guy, first time he demonstrated it to the US Military he copped a lot of crap for some of the generals, some even saying "look how far video technology has come" after he showed a video demonstration of his guns at work.

Metal Storm guns and that would have to be defensive weapons though. Bit hard to use them for offence considering the amount of ammo you need to feed into it.

reply posted on 14-9-2004 @ 03:13 AM by ShadowXIX

I think there is already plans for offensive versions of Metal Storm. Versions that will fit on gunships armed with Grenade metal storms. I also remember a concept for ground troops that would be like a ambush weapon set it up and wait for a enemy convey then hit them hard and fast with Metal storm. Could come in very hand in ambush attacks

reply posted on 14-9-2004 @ 03:32 AM by Netchicken

RPG's are a threat to naval ships???

From what, Islamic terrorists in small boats with oars?

reply posted on 14-9-2004 @ 03:38 AM by Nerdling

Originally posted by Netchicken
RPG's are a threat to naval ships???

From what, Islamic terrorists in small boats with oars?

Sadly enough, yes. For that exact reason.

Gone were the days of the red banner fleet being the enemy, now all you have are some jihad monkeys with rpg's.

reply posted on 14-9-2004 @ 12:39 PM by longbow

Originally posted by Netchicken
RPG's are a threat to naval ships???

From what, Islamic terrorists in small boats with oars?

Not only against RPG it could replace also Phalanx.

reply posted on 14-9-2004 @ 03:03 PM by E_T

Originally posted by ShadowXIX
I also remember a concept for ground troops that would be like a ambush weapon set it up and wait for a enemy convey then hit them hard and fast with Metal storm. Could come in very hand in ambush attacks

I think you mean this one... it's called area denial weapon system:
www.metalstorm.com...

Originally posted by Netchicken
RPG's are a threat to naval ships???

Maybe they're taking this new littoral warfare consept seriously and expect there's man with RPG in every small rock and rubber boat.

reply posted on 14-9-2004 @ 03:15 PM by Aelita

Guys, I followed the Storm some time ago and have a gut feeling this is a gimmick. The idea looks cool the numbers are impressive, but... I don't see it doing anything that a more conventional system can't do, including "area denial". The Russian did "area denial" to Germans with great success in WWII... It's called "Katuysha". Add GPS and computers to that, and you get a similar capability. Area flamethrowers have been used as well.
After it fires a salvo, it needs to be reloaded ANYWAY, which kills the argument that it's easier to handle. It can be detected just as easily as a cannon... And because it so heavily relies on electronics for triggering... I suspect it might be more susceptible to EMP.

reply posted on 14-9-2004 @ 06:26 PM by Ezekial

I can't wait for the contract to go ahead. I've had shares in this company ever since I saw a programme on the ABC about advanced electronic weaponary.

reply posted on 14-9-2004 @ 06:32 PM by CookieMonster000

after you told me i think ill go get some shares of my own

reply posted on 14-9-2004 @ 08:38 PM by WestPoint23

Metal storm could also be used to protect camps or temporary Us bases in other countries set these up on a roof or around a perimeter and anyone or anything fired will have thousands of holes in them

reply posted on 17-9-2004 @ 05:05 PM by Off_The_Street

Chuck Vehlow, the CEO of Metal Storm, used to be a Program Manager for the US Army Apache systems at McDonnell Douglas (now boeing Rotorcraft) in Mesa.

reply posted on 7-10-2004 @ 12:38 AM by bign

The threat to our ships by RPG'S would be mainly to our littoral craft. (Coastal types) a carrier battle group would erase any trace of a surface threat long before it got within range. Things can and are hardened against EMP. And, I suspect they have the reloading problem all worked out (one would hope).

reply posted on 7-10-2004 @ 01:42 PM by SmokeyTheBear

the US navy already uses some some like gatling gun that shoot some 6000 round a minute to stop incoming missles.

reply posted on 7-10-2004 @ 01:54 PM by sanctum

Originally posted by SmokeyTheBear
the US navy already uses some some like gatling gun that shoot some 6000 round a minute to stop incoming missles.

I think the gun you are thinking of is called the Seawiz or similar. Sorry i don't have a link.

Sanc'.

reply posted on 7-10-2004 @ 07:01 PM by Crazyhorse

I wonder if they could make a setup like this small enough to be mounted on a humvee or an APC? I'll bet if it was loaded with some sort of buckshot or dispersing flechet rounds, it would be a meat grinder.