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Topic started on 13-9-2004 @ 09:03 PM by WestPoint23
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The US navy will start to place metal storm guns on its ships to use as a defense against missiles or RPG’s. If all testing goes well this new
technology will be coming to a US sip near you.
 Metal Storm will take the lead role in a US Navy program to develop a system to defeat incoming rocket propelled grenades (RPGs). The program
is part of a Phase 1 Small Business Innovation Research (SBIR) award to the company's US subsidiary, Metal Storm.
Metal Storm will be prime contractor in this funded program designed to demonstrate the feasibility of producing an RPG defense system that integrates
Metal Storm's electronic ballistics technology with the sensor, mount and fire control system of subcontractor Northrop Grumman 
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reply posted on 13-9-2004 @ 09:37 PM by Bongobob
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Can you please define "Metal Storm"?
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reply posted on 13-9-2004 @ 09:55 PM by Spectre
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reply posted on 13-9-2004 @ 09:57 PM by Bongobob
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ok.. thanks.. so, its like.. a Fragmentation grenade in weapon-grade size?.. That would have to be very useful in many cases
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reply posted on 14-9-2004 @ 02:06 AM by drfunk
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A innovative Australian company
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reply posted on 14-9-2004 @ 02:33 AM by D
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Sure is. Read an interview with the guy who started Metal Storm. Pretty amazing guy, first time he demonstrated it to the US Military he copped a lot
of crap for some of the generals, some even saying "look how far video technology has come" after he showed a video demonstration of his guns at
work.
Metal Storm guns and that would have to be defensive weapons though. Bit hard to use them for offence considering the amount of ammo you need to feed
into it.
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reply posted on 14-9-2004 @ 03:13 AM by ShadowXIX
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I think there is already plans for offensive versions of Metal Storm. Versions that will fit on gunships armed with Grenade metal storms. I also
remember a concept for ground troops that would be like a ambush weapon set it up and wait for a enemy convey then hit them hard and fast with Metal
storm. Could come in very hand in ambush attacks
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reply posted on 14-9-2004 @ 03:32 AM by Netchicken
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RPG's are a threat to naval ships???
From what, Islamic terrorists in small boats with oars?
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reply posted on 14-9-2004 @ 03:38 AM by Nerdling
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Originally posted by Netchicken
RPG's are a threat to naval ships???
From what, Islamic terrorists in small boats with oars? 
Sadly enough, yes. For that exact reason.
Gone were the days of the red banner fleet being the enemy, now all you have are some jihad monkeys with rpg's.
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reply posted on 14-9-2004 @ 12:39 PM by longbow
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Originally posted by Netchicken
RPG's are a threat to naval ships???
From what, Islamic terrorists in small boats with oars? 
Not only against RPG it could replace also Phalanx.
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reply posted on 14-9-2004 @ 03:03 PM by E_T
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Originally posted by ShadowXIX
I also remember a concept for ground troops that would be like a ambush weapon set it up and wait for a enemy convey then hit them hard and fast with
Metal storm. Could come in very hand in ambush attacks 
I think you mean this one... it's called area denial weapon system:
www.metalstorm.com...
Originally posted by Netchicken
RPG's are a threat to naval ships??? 
Maybe they're taking this new littoral warfare consept seriously and expect there's man with RPG in every small rock and rubber boat.
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reply posted on 14-9-2004 @ 03:15 PM by Aelita
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Guys, I followed the Storm some time ago and have a gut feeling this is a gimmick. The idea looks cool the numbers are impressive, but... I don't see
it doing anything that a more conventional system can't do, including "area denial". The Russian did "area denial" to Germans with great success
in WWII... It's called "Katuysha". Add GPS and computers to that, and you get a similar capability. Area flamethrowers have been used as well.
After it fires a salvo, it needs to be reloaded ANYWAY, which kills the argument that it's easier to handle. It can be detected just as easily
as a cannon... And because it so heavily relies on electronics for triggering... I suspect it might be more susceptible to EMP.
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reply posted on 14-9-2004 @ 06:26 PM by Ezekial
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I can't wait for the contract to go ahead. I've had shares in this company ever since I saw a programme on the ABC about advanced electronic
weaponary.
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reply posted on 14-9-2004 @ 06:32 PM by CookieMonster000
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after you told me i think ill go get some shares of my own
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reply posted on 14-9-2004 @ 08:38 PM by WestPoint23
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reply posted on 17-9-2004 @ 05:05 PM by Off_The_Street
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Chuck Vehlow, the CEO of Metal Storm, used to be a Program Manager for the US Army Apache systems at McDonnell Douglas (now boeing Rotorcraft) in
Mesa.
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reply posted on 7-10-2004 @ 12:38 AM by bign
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The threat to our ships by RPG'S would be mainly to our littoral craft. (Coastal types) a carrier battle group would erase any trace of a surface
threat long before it got within range. Things can and are hardened against EMP. And, I suspect they have the reloading problem all worked out (one
would hope).
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reply posted on 7-10-2004 @ 01:42 PM by SmokeyTheBear
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the US navy already uses some some like gatling gun that shoot some 6000 round a minute to stop incoming missles.
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reply posted on 7-10-2004 @ 01:54 PM by sanctum
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Originally posted by SmokeyTheBear
the US navy already uses some some like gatling gun that shoot some 6000 round a minute to stop incoming missles. 
I think the gun you are thinking of is called the Seawiz or similar. Sorry i don't have a link.
Sanc'.
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reply posted on 7-10-2004 @ 07:01 PM by Crazyhorse
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I wonder if they could make a setup like this small enough to be mounted on a humvee or an APC? I'll bet if it was loaded with some sort of buckshot
or dispersing flechet rounds, it would be a meat grinder.
Originally posted by longbow
Not only against RPG it could replace also Phalanx. 
If the navy decides to go with the Metal storm, what will happen to the Phalanx guns being replaced? I doubt they would ever sell them as military
surplus, but I can dream can't I?  (Would look great on the Mel Gibson Turbocharged Roadwarrior Deathmachine I'm designing  )
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