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posted on Jan, 21 2012 @ 11:20 AM
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It's very sad and pathetic that when a man stands up for and defends The Constitution of the U.S. that he is looked upon as "radical" or "crazy" or "a joke" by a majority of U.S. citizens, the lamestream media, AND his fellow GOP candidates who when sworn into office would have to swear to abide by the U.S. Constitution.

I'm beginning to believe it's true that 90% of the world's population are clinically insane.

A vote for Ron Paul is a vote for our U.S. Constitution. A vote for our country's founders. That's not "radical" or "crazy" or "a joke"... it's American.

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The Constitution of the United States: A Transcription

Note: The following text is a transcription of the Constitution in its original form.
Items that are hyperlinked have since been amended or superseded.


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We the People of the United States, in Order to form a more perfect Union, establish Justice, insure domestic Tranquility, provide for the common defence, promote the general Welfare, and secure the Blessings of Liberty to ourselves and our Posterity, do ordain and establish this Constitution for the United States of America.


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Article. I.

Section. 1.

All legislative Powers herein granted shall be vested in a Congress of the United States, which shall consist of a Senate and House of Representatives.

Section. 2.

The House of Representatives shall be composed of Members chosen every second Year by the People of the several States, and the Electors in each State shall have the Qualifications requisite for Electors of the most numerous Branch of the State Legislature.

No Person shall be a Representative who shall not have attained to the Age of twenty five Years, and been seven Years a Citizen of the United States, and who shall not, when elected, be an Inhabitant of that State in which he shall be chosen.

Representatives and direct Taxes shall be apportioned among the several States which may be included within this Union, according to their respective Numbers, which shall be determined by adding to the whole Number of free Persons, including those bound to Service for a Term of Years, and excluding Indians not taxed, three fifths of all other Persons. The actual Enumeration shall be made within three Years after the first Meeting of the Congress of the United States, and within every subsequent Term of ten Years, in such Manner as they shall by Law direct. The Number of Representatives shall not exceed one for every thirty Thousand, but each State shall have at Least one Representative; and until such enumeration shall be made, the State of New Hampshire shall be entitled to chuse three, Massachusetts eight, Rhode-Island and Providence Plantations one, Connecticut five, New-York six, New Jersey four, Pennsylvania eight, Delaware one, Maryland six, Virginia ten, North Carolina five, South Carolina five, and Georgia three.

When vacancies happen in the Representation from any State, the Executive Authority thereof shall issue Writs of Election to fill such Vacancies.

The House of Representatives shall chuse their Speaker and other Officers; and shall have the sole Power of Impeachment.

Section. 3.

The Senate of the United States shall be composed of two Senators from each State, chosen by the Legislature thereof for six Years; and each Senator shall have one Vote.

Immediately after they shall be assembled in Consequence of the first Election, they shall be divided as equally as may be into three Classes. The Seats of the Senators of the first Class shall be vacated at the Expiration of the second Year, of the second Class at the Expiration of the fourth Year, and of the third Class at the Expiration of the sixth Year, so that one third may be chosen every second Year; and if Vacancies happen by Resignation, or otherwise, during the Recess of the Legislature of any State, the Executive thereof may make temporary Appointments until the next Meeting of the Legislature, which shall then fill such Vacancies.

No Person shall be a Senator who shall not have attained to the Age of thirty Years, and been nine Years a Citizen of the United States, and who shall not, when elected, be an Inhabitant of that State for which he shall be chosen.

The Vice President of the United States shall be President of the Senate, but shall have no Vote, unless they be equally divided.

The Senate shall chuse their other Officers, and also a President pro tempore, in the Absence of the Vice President, or when he shall exercise the Office of President of the United States.

The Senate shall have the sole Power to try all Impeachments. When sitting for that Purpose, they shall be on Oath or Affirmation. When the President of the United States is tried, the Chief Justice shall preside: And no Person shall be convicted without the Concurrence of two thirds of the Members present.

Judgment in Cases of Impeachment shall not extend further than to removal from Office, and disqualification to hold and enjoy any Office of honor, Trust or Profit under the United States: but the Party convicted shall nevertheless be liable and subject to Indictment, Trial, Judgment and Punishment, according to Law.

Section. 4.

The Times, Places and Manner of holding Elections for Senators and Representatives, shall be prescribed in each State by the Legislature thereof; but the Congress may at any time by Law make or alter such Regulations, except as to the Places of chusing Senators.

The Congress shall assemble at least once in every Year, and such Meeting shall be on the first Monday in December, unless they shall by Law appoint a different Day.

Section. 5.

Each House shall be the Judge of the Elections, Returns and Qualifications of its own Members, and a Majority of each shall constitute a Quorum to do Business; but a smaller Number may adjourn from day to day, and may be authorized to compel the Attendance of absent Members, in such Manner, and under such Penalties as each House may provide.

Each House may determine the Rules of its Proceedings, punish its Members for disorderly Behaviour, and, with the Concurrence of two thirds, expel a Member.

Each House shall keep a Journal of its Proceedings, and from time to time publish the same, excepting such Parts as may in their Judgment require Secrecy; and the Yeas and Nays of the Members of either House on any question shall, at the Desire of one fifth of those Present, be entered on the Journal.

Neither House, during the Session of Congress, shall, without the Consent of the other, adjourn for more than three days, nor to any other Place than that in which the two Houses shall be sitting.

Section. 6.

The Senators and Representatives shall receive a Compensation for their Services, to be ascertained by Law, and paid out of the Treasury of the United States. They shall in all Cases, except Treason, Felony and Breach of the Peace, be privileged from Arrest during their Attendance at the Session of their respective Houses, and in going to and returning from the same; and for any Speech or Debate in either House, they shall not be questioned in any other Place.

No Senator or Representative shall, during the Time for which he was elected, be appointed to any civil Office under the Authority of the United States, which shall have been created, or the Emoluments whereof shall have been encreased during such time; and no Person holding any Office under the United States, shall be a Member of either House during his Continuance in Office.

Section. 7.

All Bills for raising Revenue shall originate in the House of Representatives; but the Senate may propose or concur with Amendments as on other Bills.

Every Bill which shall have passed the House of Representatives and the Senate, shall, before it become a Law, be presented to the President of the United States: If he approve he shall sign it, but if not he shall return it, with his Objections to that House in which it shall have originated, who shall enter the Objections at large on their Journal, and proceed to reconsider it. If after such Reconsideration two thirds of that House shall agree to pass the Bill, it shall be sent, together with the Objections, to the other House, by which it shall likewise be reconsidered, and if approved by two thirds of that House, it shall become a Law. But in all such Cases the Votes of both Houses shall be determined by yeas and Nays, and the Names of the Persons voting for and against the Bill shall be entered on the Journal of each House respectively. If any Bill shall not be returned by the President within ten Days (Sundays excepted) after it shall have been presented to him, the Same shall be a Law, in like Manner as if he had signed it, unless the Congress by their Adjournment prevent its Return, in which Case it shall not be a Law.

Every Order, Resolution, or Vote to which the Concurrence of the Senate and House of Representatives may be necessary (except on a question of Adjournment) shall be presented to the President of the United States; and before the Same shall take Effect, shall be approved by him, or being disapproved by him, shall be repassed by two thirds of the Senate and House of Representatives, according to the Rules and Limitations prescribed in the Case of a Bill.

Section. 8.

The Congress shall have Power To lay and collect Taxes, Duties, Imposts and Excises, to pay the Debts and provide for the common Defence and general Welfare of the United States; but all Duties, Imposts and Excises shall be uniform throughout the United States;

To borrow Money on the credit of the United States;

To regulate Commerce with foreign Nations, and among the several States, and with the Indian Tribes;

To establish an uniform Rule of Naturalization, and uniform Laws on the subject of Bankruptcies throughout the United States;

To coin Money, regulate the Value thereof, and of foreign Coin, and fix the Standard of Weights and Measures;

To provide for the Punishment of counterfeiting the Securities and current Coin of the United States;

To establish Post Offices and post Roads;

To promote the Progress of Science and useful Arts, by securing for limited Times to Authors and Inventors the exclusive Right to their respective Writings and Discoveries;

To constitute Tribunals inferior to the supreme Court;

To define and punish Piracies and Felonies committed on the high Seas, and Offences against the Law of Nations;

To declare War, grant Letters of Marque and Reprisal, and make Rules concerning Captures on Land and Water;

To raise and support Armies, but no Appropriation of Money to that Use shall be for a longer Term than two Years;

To provide and maintain a Navy;

To make Rules for the Government and Regulation of the land and naval Forces;

To provide for calling forth the Militia to execute the Laws of the Union, suppress Insurrections and repel Invasions;

To provide for organizing, arming, and disciplining, the Militia, and for governing such Part of them as may be employed in the Service of the United States, reserving to the States respectively, the Appointment of the Officers, and the Authority of training the Militia according to the discipline prescribed by Congress;

To exercise exclusive Legislation in all Cases whatsoever, over such District (not exceeding ten Miles square) as may, by Cession of particular States, and the Acceptance of Congress, become the Seat of the Government of the United States, and to exercise like Authority over all Places purchased by the Consent of the Legislature of the State in which the Same shall be, for the Erection of Forts, Magazines, Arsenals, dock-Yards, and other needful Buildings;--And

To make all Laws which shall be necessary and proper for carrying into Execution the foregoing Powers, and all other Powers vested by this Constitution in the Government of the United States, or in any Department or Officer thereof.

Section. 9.

The Migration or Importation of such Persons as any of the States now existing shall think proper to admit, shall not be prohibited by the Congress prior to the Year one thousand eight hundred and eight, but a Tax or duty may be imposed on such Importation, not exceeding ten dollars for each Person.

The Privilege of the Writ of Habeas Corpus shall not be suspended, unless when in Cases of Rebellion or Invasion the public Safety may require it.

No Bill of Attainder or ex post facto Law shall be passed.

No Capitation, or other direct, Tax shall be laid, unless in Proportion to the Census or enumeration herein before directed to be taken.

No Tax or Duty shall be laid on Articles exported from any State.

No Preference shall be given by any Regulation of Commerce or Revenue to the Ports of one State over those of another; nor shall Vessels bound to, or from, one State, be obliged to enter, clear, or pay Duties in another.

No Money shall be drawn from the Treasury, but in Consequence of Appropriations made by Law; and a regular Statement and Account of the Receipts and Expenditures of all public Money shall be published from time to time.

No Title of Nobility shall be granted by the United States: And no Person holding any Office of Profit or Trust under them, shall, without the Consent of the Congress, accept of any present, Emolument, Office, or Title, of any kind whatever, from any King, Prince, or foreign State.

Section. 10.

No State shall enter into any Treaty, Alliance, or Confederation; grant Letters of Marque and Reprisal; coin Money; emit Bills of Credit; make any Thing but gold and silver Coin a Tender in Payment of Debts; pass any Bill of Attainder, ex post facto Law, or Law impairing the Obligation of Contracts, or grant any Title of Nobility.

No State shall, without the Consent of the Congress, lay any Imposts or Duties on Imports or Exports, except what may be absolutely necessary for executing it's inspection Laws: and the net Produce of all Duties and Imposts, laid by any State on Imports or Exports, shall be for the Use of the Treasury of the United States; and all such Laws shall be subject to the Revision and Controul of the Congress.

No State shall, without the Consent of Congress, lay any Duty of Tonnage, keep Troops, or Ships of War in time of Peace, enter into any Agreement or Compact with another State, or with a foreign Power, or engage in War, unless actually invaded, or in such imminent Danger as will not admit of delay.


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Article. II.

Section. 1.

The executive Power shall be vested in a President of the United States of America. He shall hold his Office during the Term of four Years, and, together with the Vice President, chosen for the same Term, be elected, as follows:

Each State shall appoint, in such Manner as the Legislature thereof may direct, a Number of Electors, equal to the whole Number of Senators and Representatives to which the State may be entitled in the Congress: but no Senator or Representative, or Person holding an Office of Trust or Profit under the United States, shall be appointed an Elector.

The Electors shall meet in their respective States, and vote by Ballot for two Persons, of whom one at least shall not be an Inhabitant of the same State with themselves. And they shall make a List of all the Persons voted for, and of the Number of Votes for each; which List they shall sign and certify, and transmit sealed to the Seat of the Government of the United States, directed to the President of the Senate. The President of the Senate shall, in the Presence of the Senate and House of Representatives, open all the Certificates, and the Votes shall then be counted. The Person having the greatest Number of Votes shall be the President, if such Number be a Majority of the whole Number of Electors appointed; and if there be more than one who have such Majority, and have an equal Number of Votes, then the House of Representatives shall immediately chuse by Ballot one of them for President; and if no Person have a Majority, then from the five highest on the List the said House shall in like Manner chuse the President. But in chusing the President, the Votes shall be taken by States, the Representation from each State having one Vote; A quorum for this purpose shall consist of a Member or Members from two thirds of the States, and a Majority of all the States shall be necessary to a Choice. In every Case, after the Choice of the President, the Person having the greatest Number of Votes of the Electors shall be the Vice President. But if there should remain two or more who have equal Votes, the Senate shall chuse from them by Ballot the Vice President.

The Congress may determine the Time of chusing the Electors, and the Day on which they shall give their Votes; which Day shall be the same throughout the United States.

No Person except a natural born Citizen, or a Citizen of the United States, at the time of the Adoption of this Constitution, shall be eligible to the Office of President; neither shall any Person be eligible to that Office who shall not have attained to the Age of thirty five Years, and been fourteen Years a Resident within the United States.

In Case of the Removal of the President from Office, or of his Death, Resignation, or Inability to discharge the Powers and Duties of the said Office, the Same shall devolve on the Vice President, and the Congress may by Law provide for the Case of Removal, Death, Resignation or Inability, both of the President and Vice President, declaring what Officer shall then act as President, and such Officer shall act accordingly, until the Disability be removed, or a President shall be elected.

The President shall, at stated Times, receive for his Services, a Compensation, which shall neither be increased nor diminished during the Period for which he shall have been elected, and he shall not receive within that Period any other Emolument from the United States, or any of them.

Before he enter on the Execution of his Office, he shall take the following Oath or Affirmation:--"I do solemnly swear (or affirm) that I will faithfully execute the Office of President of the United States, and will to the best of my Ability, preserve, protect and defend the Constitution of the United States."

Section. 2.

The President shall be Commander in Chief of the Army and Navy of the United States, and of the Militia of the several States, when called into the actual Service of the United States; he may require the Opinion, in writing, of the principal Officer in each of the executive Departments, upon any Subject relating to the Duties of their respective Offices, and he shall have Power to grant Reprieves and Pardons for Offences against the United States, except in Cases of Impeachment.

He shall have Power, by and with the Advice and Consent of the Senate, to make Treaties, provided two thirds of the Senators present concur; and he shall nominate, and by and with the Advice and Consent of the Senate, shall appoint Ambassadors, other public Ministers and Consuls, Judges of the supreme Court, and all other Officers of the United States, whose Appointments are not herein otherwise provided for, and which shall be established by Law: but the Congress may by Law vest the Appointment of such inferior Officers, as they think proper, in the President alone, in the Courts of Law, or in the Heads of Departments.

The President shall have Power to fill up all Vacancies that may happen during the Recess of the Senate, by granting Commissions which shall expire at the End of their next Session.

Section. 3.

He shall from time to time give to the Congress Information of the State of the Union, and recommend to their Consideration such Measures as he shall judge necessary and expedient; he may, on extraordinary Occasions, convene both Houses, or either of them, and in Case of Disagreement between them, with Respect to the Time of Adjournment, he may adjourn them to such Time as he shall think proper; he shall receive Ambassadors and other public Ministers; he shall take Care that the Laws be faithfully executed, and shall Commission all the Officers of the United States.

Section. 4.

The President, Vice President and all civil Officers of the United States, shall be removed from Office on Impeachment for, and Conviction of, Treason, Bribery, or other high Crimes and Misdemeanors.


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Article III.

Section. 1.

The judicial Power of the United States shall be vested in one supreme Court, and in such inferior Courts as the Congress may from time to time ordain and establish. The Judges, both of the supreme and inferior Courts, shall hold their Offices during good Behaviour, and shall, at stated Times, receive for their Services a Compensation, which shall not be diminished during their Continuance in Office.

Section. 2.

The judicial Power shall extend to all Cases, in Law and Equity, arising under this Constitution, the Laws of the United States, and Treaties made, or which shall be made, under their Authority;--to all Cases affecting Ambassadors, other public Ministers and Consuls;--to all Cases of admiralty and maritime Jurisdiction;--to Controversies to which the United States shall be a Party;--to Controversies between two or more States;-- between a State and Citizens of another State,--between Citizens of different States,--between Citizens of the same State claiming Lands under Grants of different States, and between a State, or the Citizens thereof, and foreign States, Citizens or Subjects.

In all Cases affecting Ambassadors, other public Ministers and Consuls, and those in which a State shall be Party, the supreme Court shall have original Jurisdiction. In all the other Cases before mentioned, the supreme Court shall have appellate Jurisdiction, both as to Law and Fact, with such Exceptions, and under such Regulations as the Congress shall make.

The Trial of all Crimes, except in Cases of Impeachment, shall be by Jury; and such Trial shall be held in the State where the said Crimes shall have been committed; but when not committed within any State, the Trial shall be at such Place or Places as the Congress may by Law have directed.

Section. 3.

Treason against the United States, shall consist only in levying War against them, or in adhering to their Enemies, giving them Aid and Comfort. No Person shall be convicted of Treason unless on the Testimony of two Witnesses to the same overt Act, or on Confession in open Court.

The Congress shall have Power to declare the Punishment of Treason, but no Attainder of Treason shall work Corruption of Blood, or Forfeiture except during the Life of the Person attainted.


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Article. IV.

Section. 1.

Full Faith and Credit shall be given in each State to the public Acts, Records, and judicial Proceedings of every other State. And the Congress may by general Laws prescribe the Manner in which such Acts, Records and Proceedings shall be proved, and the Effect thereof.

Section. 2.

The Citizens of each State shall be entitled to all Privileges and Immunities of Citizens in the several States.

A Person charged in any State with Treason, Felony, or other Crime, who shall flee from Justice, and be found in another State, shall on Demand of the executive Authority of the State from which he fled, be delivered up, to be removed to the State having Jurisdiction of the Crime.

No Person held to Service or Labour in one State, under the Laws thereof, escaping into another, shall, in Consequence of any Law or Regulation therein, be discharged from such Service or Labour, but shall be delivered up on Claim of the Party to whom such Service or Labour may be due.

Section. 3.

New States may be admitted by the Congress into this Union; but no new State shall be formed or erected within the Jurisdiction of any other State; nor any State be formed by the Junction of two or more States, or Parts of States, without the Consent of the Legislatures of the States concerned as well as of the Congress.

The Congress shall have Power to dispose of and make all needful Rules and Regulations respecting the Territory or other Property belonging to the United States; and nothing in this Constitution shall be so construed as to Prejudice any Claims of the United States, or of any particular State.

Section. 4.

The United States shall guarantee to every State in this Union a Republican Form of Government, and shall protect each of them against Invasion; and on Application of the Legislature, or of the Executive (when the Legislature cannot be convened), against domestic Violence.


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Article. V.

The Congress, whenever two thirds of both Houses shall deem it necessary, shall propose Amendments to this Constitution, or, on the Application of the Legislatures of two thirds of the several States, shall call a Convention for proposing Amendments, which, in either Case, shall be valid to all Intents and Purposes, as Part of this Constitution, when ratified by the Legislatures of three fourths of the several States, or by Conventions in three fourths thereof, as the one or the other Mode of Ratification may be proposed by the Congress; Provided that no Amendment which may be made prior to the Year One thousand eight hundred and eight shall in any Manner affect the first and fourth Clauses in the Ninth Section of the first Article; and that no State, without its Consent, shall be deprived of its equal Suffrage in the Senate.


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Article. VI.

All Debts contracted and Engagements entered into, before the Adoption of this Constitution, shall be as valid against the United States under this Constitution, as under the Confederation.

This Constitution, and the Laws of the United States which shall be made in Pursuance thereof; and all Treaties made, or which shall be made, under the Authority of the United States, shall be the supreme Law of the Land; and the Judges in every State shall be bound thereby, any Thing in the Constitution or Laws of any State to the Contrary notwithstanding.

The Senators and Representatives before mentioned, and the Members of the several State Legislatures, and all executive and judicial Officers, both of the United States and of the several States, shall be bound by Oath or Affirmation, to support this Constitution; but no religious Test shall ever be required as a Qualification to any Office or public Trust under the United States.


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Article. VII.

The Ratification of the Conventions of nine States, shall be sufficient for the Establishment of this Constitution between the States so ratifying the Same.

The Word, "the," being interlined between the seventh and eighth Lines of the first Page, the Word "Thirty" being partly written on an Erazure in the fifteenth Line of the first Page, The Words "is tried" being interlined between the thirty second and thirty third Lines of the first Page and the Word "the" being interlined between the forty third and forty fourth Lines of the second Page.

Attest William Jackson Secretary

done in Convention by the Unanimous Consent of the States present the Seventeenth Day of September in the Year of our Lord one thousand seven hundred and Eighty seven and of the Independance of the United States of America the Twelfth In witness whereof We have hereunto subscribed our Names,

G°. Washington
Presidt and deputy from Virginia

Delaware
Geo: Read
Gunning Bedford jun
John Dickinson
Richard Bassett
Jaco: Broom

Maryland
James McHenry
Dan of St Thos. Jenifer
Danl. Carroll

Virginia
John Blair
James Madison Jr.

North Carolina
Wm. Blount
Richd. Dobbs Spaight
Hu Williamson

South Carolina
J. Rutledge
Charles Cotesworth Pinckney
Charles Pinckney
Pierce Butler

Georgia
William Few
Abr Baldwin

New Hampshire
John Langdon
Nicholas Gilman

Massachusetts
Nathaniel Gorham
Rufus King

Connecticut
Wm. Saml. Johnson
Roger Sherman

New York
Alexander Hamilton

New Jersey
Wil: Livingston
David Brearley
Wm. Paterson
Jona: Dayton

Pennsylvania
B Franklin
Thomas Mifflin
Robt. Morris
Geo. Clymer
Thos. FitzSimons
Jared Ingersoll
James Wilson
Gouv Morris




posted on Jan, 21 2012 @ 11:22 AM
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When I was a kid, my parents told me that they had to memorize significant portions of the Constitution. I felt so lucky that I didn't have to do that.

Now, I wish to God that I had. Because that would mean that everybody else would have had to as well.



posted on Jan, 21 2012 @ 11:44 AM
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Maybe people say it is a joke because they feel that "american's"(not all american's) do not live by these great principles. To some it is crazy to think that our government can say they that believe and follow the constitution with the way our government is. I agree with them. But i do not disagree with what the constitution stands for and how we as american's should follow what it say's. My question to you is, do you believe that with the state of how our government is run , is it not crazy or a joke that people feel that way givin how we don't practice what is preached in the constitution.In my opinion it is crazy and a joke to think we do practice it, because we clearly don't.



posted on Jan, 21 2012 @ 11:54 AM
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Originally posted by AnIntellectualRedneck
When I was a kid, my parents told me that they had to memorize significant portions of the Constitution. I felt so lucky that I didn't have to do that.

Now, I wish to God that I had. Because that would mean that everybody else would have had to as well.

Indeed. Nowadays all I see on youtube are videos of small kids singing praise to glorious, shining leader. It seems to be getting slightly North Korea bat# insane...

Fahrenheit 451?



posted on Jan, 21 2012 @ 12:27 PM
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funny, when i was a kid (and im not that old) i was taught, even if you did not vote for, or support the president, you should still show respect, as he IS your president...

and a majority of the people do not think that the constitution is radical, they see ron pauls interpretation of it to be radical.. it seems to me, that only ron paul and his supporters seem to have this very special interpretation of the constitution...



posted on Jan, 21 2012 @ 01:39 PM
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Originally posted by baphomet420
...and a majority of the people do not think that the constitution is radical, they see ron pauls interpretation of it to be radical.. it seems to me, that only ron paul and his supporters seem to have this very special interpretation of the constitution...

At first I LOL'd that ludicrous remark. Then I wanted to tear you a knew one. But then...I felt an overwhelming sense of sadness for you and others of this mindset that will willingly and ignorantly go peacefully into history as a sheep to slaughter. I even had to say a little prayer for you.

We'll continue to fight for your rights, too, regardless.


Prediction: It will all make sense to you one day. Maybe soon.



posted on Jan, 21 2012 @ 02:39 PM
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so you are fighting for MY rights...
that is laughable...

posting disinfo on a message board and calling me a sheep is fighting for MY rights???

please explain to me how that is not insane...

keyboard warriors for the win???



posted on Jan, 21 2012 @ 02:52 PM
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Originally posted by baphomet420
funny, when i was a kid (and im not that old) i was taught, even if you did not vote for, or support the president, you should still show respect, as he IS your president...

and a majority of the people do not think that the constitution is radical, they see ron pauls interpretation of it to be radical.. it seems to me, that only ron paul and his supporters seem to have this very special interpretation of the constitution...


As if you had to parenthetically point out that you are not that old. The President of the United States of America is a servant to the People of the United States. You have it in reverse and were taught wrong there young Padawan. The President needs to support and defend the Constitution and he should show respect to We the People, as we ARE the holders of the inherent political power in this nation.

In terms of "interpretation", the majority of the people have not even read the Constitution, and in all likelihood - just like you - they couldn't speak intelligently to Ron Paul's "interpretation", nor could - or you - offer up a different "interpretation". You were probably told, and more than likely by the same person who told you that you should support and respect your President that Ron Paul is radical.

If you're lucky, those telling you what to think will not tell you to jump off a cliff. That could be painful.

Beep Beep.



posted on Jan, 21 2012 @ 03:05 PM
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i have no tv...
i do not read the paper...
i do not converse with many people...

i assure you, noone is telling me what to think...
i am fully capable of reading comprehension...

and i am old enough to have voted in the 2000 election for ralph nader, so im not THAT young...

i am also wise enough to see when someone is trying to make me into a slave under the guise of a constitutionality...



posted on Jan, 21 2012 @ 03:19 PM
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And yet, when it comes to the challenge of distinguishing between Ron Paul's "interpretation" of the Constitution and your own, you are loudly silent. This is your "wisdom".



posted on Jan, 21 2012 @ 03:25 PM
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Originally posted by baphomet420
funny, when i was a kid (and im not that old) i was taught, even if you did not vote for, or support the president, you should still show respect, as he IS your president...

and a majority of the people do not think that the constitution is radical, they see ron pauls interpretation of it to be radical.. it seems to me, that only ron paul and his supporters seem to have this very special interpretation of the constitution...


What "special" interpretation are you referring to? Give us an example of one, so that we may school you.

/TOA



posted on Jan, 21 2012 @ 03:53 PM
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I don't support everything Ron Paul believes in.

I'm pro-gay-marriage. I'm pro-choice. I believe nothing that happens in anyone's bedroom or doctor's office, if it's consensual, is anyone's business but those who are involved. Ron Paul, on the other hand, believes very strongly in legislating "morality" and that it is Washington's duty to tell the People what is and is not appropriate behavior in private.

I don't like some of the people Ron Paul is associated with.

Granted it isn't his fault that many of his supporters are ignorant racists, but it doesn't help Ron Paul's case that he is a champion not only of correct Constitutionalism, but also of xenophobes and neo-Nazis.

But I will vote for Ron Paul, anyway.

Because a system with fewer bureaucrats, where DC has been given a healthy fear of the People, can't be any worse than where we're headed -- or where we are.

That is, in a nation with a government that only respects the social ground rules we established for it 235 years ago, until it can weasel its way into complete violation of them by duping the masses. A nation where almost everyone is on autopilot and headed directly for a cliff. I'd rather deal with breaking a few "morality" laws and getting a slap on the wrist, than where I am now -- where simply going about my daily business exposes me to the risk of indefinite incarceration without trial or charges.

I would rather risk a complete breakdown in the system than allow this system to continue crushing liberty under the wheels of its war machine.

Ron Paul is a radical. I "should" oppose him. That's why I support him.



posted on Jan, 21 2012 @ 03:57 PM
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Thank you for your post, as well as the love that you feel for our country and Constitution.
I feel the same way.



posted on Jan, 21 2012 @ 04:24 PM
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I'm pro-gay-marriage. I'm pro-choice. I believe nothing that happens in anyone's bedroom or doctor's office, if it's consensual, is anyone's business but those who are involved. Ron Paul, on the other hand, believes very strongly in legislating "morality" and that it is Washington's duty to tell the People what is and is not appropriate behavior in private.


Ron Paul is often called by his fellow Representatives in Congress "Dr. No" because he is so adamant about not voting for any piece of legislation that is not Constitutionally authorized. So often does Paul vote no on legislation that often times he is the sole "no" vote on legislation, which quite obviously contradicts your uninformed opinion.

Frankly, given your admission that you are "pro gay marriage" and "pro choice", and given your criticism that Paul believes "very strongly in legislating morality" you clearly are only parroting what others have told you and have no idea they are telling you this because of Ron Paul's strong stance on states rights issues.

Gay marriage is without a doubt a states issue at this point, and as long as it stays that way then those states that have banned the licensing of gays for marriage will remain that way. The only way for Ron Paul to have any effect at all on "gay marriage" is if Congress decides to legislate on a federal basis that gays have the right to the privilege of a licensing scheme, which is truly absurd in terms of rights, but hey, you didn't even know this, so hopefully you are learning something.

In terms of abortion, Ron Paul is a staunch adversary of federally sponsored abortion programs, but generally believes that maternal and fetal health is best handled by the individual or states. Further, your insistence that Ron Paul wants to intrude into your bedroom is nonsense, especially if you are making the leap from "pro-choice" to intrusions on a bedroom, or even "gay marriage". In both cases, Ron Paul, could care less what you do in your bedroom, assuming what you do in there is lawful. By lawful, it should be pointed out that Ron Paul is against the drug war and would view any drug use done in your bedroom as lawful. He certainly doesn't care who you are having sex with in your bedroom and if you think that abortions are generally handled in the bedroom, then you are way too ignorant.

Ron Paul opposes internet regulation and taxation.

Ron Paul voted against the Patriot Act where very few others did. In fact, Paul broke with his own political party to do so.

Paul voted against the Real ID Act.

In relation to your absurd claims Ron Paul vehemently opposes domestic surveillance, but hey, keep insisting that Ron Paul wants to intrude into your bedroom. Paul has vehemently opposed U.S. House Resolution 1955 making the argument that: "(The Resolution) focuses the weight of the US government inward toward its own citizens under the guise of protecting us against violent radicalization."

Ron Paul opposes the draft.

Ron Paul opposes eminent domain.

Most recently, in a South Carolina Presidential campaign debate, Ron Paul, in responding to a question of prostitution, responded by arguing that people have the right to controversial things as long as they do not harm or defame another person. In other words, Ron Paul defends your right to do whatever the hell you want in your bedroom that causes no harm...

...which begs the question, just what the hell are you doing in your bedroom to cause all this protest of Ron Paul. All he has suggested is that you should not cause harm or defame anyone, so what are you up to, sport?



posted on Jan, 21 2012 @ 05:37 PM
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Ron Paul even gets more donations from active duty military than ALL other candidates combined. Why not honor our troops not only by putting up yellow ribbons or wearing rubber wristbands but by voting for the candidate THEY HAVE CHOSEN as their Commander & Chief?



posted on Jan, 21 2012 @ 07:53 PM
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Because military men are dumb, stupid animals to be used as pawns for foreign policy.



posted on Jan, 21 2012 @ 08:44 PM
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if ron paul is so supportive of the constitution why did he have a rally in sc where he openly stated that he supports states interpreting those constitutional rights? thats not constitutional!



posted on Jan, 21 2012 @ 09:10 PM
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Originally posted by Ausar
if ron paul is so supportive of the constitution why did he have a rally in sc where he openly stated that he supports states interpreting those constitutional rights? thats not constitutional!


Every government official, whether they be local, state, or federal, takes an oath of office upon entering office. That oath demands they protect and defend the Constitution. Such a demand requires an ability to interpret the Constitution.

Further, and this was made perfectly clear in Bond v. U.S., any person who believes that an act of legislation is trampling upon their rights and challenges the legislation is interpreting the Constitution in order to make those challenges, of which the SCOTUS upheld that individuals have the absolute right to do so, and most assuredly have legal standing to do so.

Even further, and as skewed as your interpretations seems to be, you necessarily had to interpret that Constitution yourself to assert that states do not have the right to interpret the Constitution.



posted on Jan, 21 2012 @ 11:27 PM
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Originally posted by Jean Paul Zodeaux

Originally posted by Ausar
if ron paul is so supportive of the constitution why did he have a rally in sc where he openly stated that he supports states interpreting those constitutional rights? thats not constitutional!


Every government official, whether they be local, state, or federal, takes an oath of office upon entering office. That oath demands they protect and defend the Constitution. Such a demand requires an ability to interpret the Constitution.

Further, and this was made perfectly clear in Bond v. U.S., any person who believes that an act of legislation is trampling upon their rights and challenges the legislation is interpreting the Constitution in order to make those challenges, of which the SCOTUS upheld that individuals have the absolute right to do so, and most assuredly have legal standing to do so.

Even further, and as skewed as your interpretations seems to be, you necessarily had to interpret that Constitution yourself to assert that states do not have the right to interpret the Constitution.




you hit the nail on the head. they are elected and take an oath that demands they protect and defend the constitution. where does interpretation come into play regarding your legalese pertaining an elected official? who said states do not have the right to interpret the constitution? as intelligent as you come across you stepped over my term or states rights and what that means!



posted on Jan, 21 2012 @ 11:56 PM
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Originally posted by vexati0n
I don't support everything Ron Paul believes in.

I'm pro-gay-marriage. I'm pro-choice. I believe nothing that happens in anyone's bedroom or doctor's office, if it's consensual, is anyone's business but those who are involved. Ron Paul, on the other hand, believes very strongly in legislating "morality" and that it is Washington's duty to tell the People what is and is not appropriate behavior in private.

I don't like some of the people Ron Paul is associated with.

Granted it isn't his fault that many of his supporters are ignorant racists, but it doesn't help Ron Paul's case that he is a champion not only of correct Constitutionalism, but also of xenophobes and neo-Nazis.

But I will vote for Ron Paul, anyway.

Because a system with fewer bureaucrats, where DC has been given a healthy fear of the People, can't be any worse than where we're headed -- or where we are.

That is, in a nation with a government that only respects the social ground rules we established for it 235 years ago, until it can weasel its way into complete violation of them by duping the masses. A nation where almost everyone is on autopilot and headed directly for a cliff. I'd rather deal with breaking a few "morality" laws and getting a slap on the wrist, than where I am now -- where simply going about my daily business exposes me to the risk of indefinite incarceration without trial or charges.

I would rather risk a complete breakdown in the system than allow this system to continue crushing liberty under the wheels of its war machine.

Ron Paul is a radical. I "should" oppose him. That's why I support him.


Ron Paul would NEVER IMO, which is based on endless research of Dr Paul and his reasonings and positions on the above mentioned topics, chose to makes laws that would infringe upon your personal freedoms. I truly believe you have completely misunderstood what he is saying or you have listened to too much MSM. I gave you a star for your last commment ONLY!!! That is truly the sign of an open mind and I commend you for that and hope you will research Dr. Paul's stance on all the other statements you made that IMO are unfounded. Radcial, if that is what you chose to call it is what this country MUST have or we may as well hop in the handbasket!




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