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What Roman Catholicism, Islam, Paganism, the Masons, Knights Templars and Jesuits have in common.

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posted on Jan, 20 2012 @ 10:40 PM
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I thought i'd make a short thread here just to show some of you folks a video i accidentally stumbled across. Call it divine providence or just dumb luck. This video goes into great detail about the similarities between the Roman Catholic Church, Paganism, Islam, Humanism/Neo Platonism, Universalism, the Free Masons (Masons for short), the Knights Templar and the Jesuits and yes, even some Protestant Churches that are allied to Billy Graham. This is a very informative video, but it is very long. About 1:35:20 long but it is well worth the watching. You would be amazed at how much of this world Lucifer already controls. What i watched in this video shocked me to the core. Naturally i fully expect catholics and muslims to fully reject everything in this video, but for those who have eyes to see and ears to hear, listen to this message and may the sleepers awaken.

Lucifer conquered the world, here's what the great tribulaton looks like:

What you will see in this video is not pretty and it is not a joke, viewer discretion is advised.

I ask you to refrain from posting comments until you have watched the video in its entirety, lest you miss the message. This video may be your last chance to turn back from the edge of a deep and dark abyss.




posted on Jan, 20 2012 @ 10:59 PM
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obviously, given the length, I haven't watched it all yet...
but I'm super interested... will post back when I'm done!



posted on Jan, 20 2012 @ 11:26 PM
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I already have issue with the 4:30 mark. This professor is not considering the other "leg" of the Roman Empire. The eastern leg outlived Rome by 1,000 years. The Byzantine Empire we call it.



posted on Jan, 20 2012 @ 11:50 PM
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You would be amazed at how much of this world Lucifer already controls.


Sure, everything that is different from what YOU believe is of the devil, right??



posted on Jan, 21 2012 @ 12:35 AM
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Originally posted by lonewolf19792000
I thought i'd make a short thread here just to show some of you folks a video i accidentally stumbled across. Call it divine providence or just dumb luck. This video goes into great detail about the similarities between the Roman Catholic Church, Paganism, Islam, Humanism/Neo Platonism, Universalism, the Free Masons (Masons for short), the Knights Templar and the Jesuits and yes, even some Protestant Churches that are allied to Billy Graham. This is a very informative video, but it is very long. About 1:35:20 long but it is well worth the watching. You would be amazed at how much of this world Lucifer already controls. What i watched in this video shocked me to the core. Naturally i fully expect catholics and muslims to fully reject everything in this video, but for those who have eyes to see and ears to hear, listen to this message and may the sleepers awaken.

Lucifer conquered the world, here's what the great tribulaton looks like:

What you will see in this video is not pretty and it is not a joke, viewer discretion is advised.

I ask you to refrain from posting comments until you have watched the video in its entirety, lest you miss the message. This video may be your last chance to turn back from the edge of a deep and dark abyss.


Sometime soon you will realize that the Protestant church and the SDA church are also under the control of Satan.

If a church teaches anything that separates loving people from loving people the message comes from Satan.

If a church teaches that a loving Muslim family or the loving Gandhi is going to hell the message comes from Satan.

If the church teaches that their members are the righteous ones and therefore condemns people that do not believe as they do to hell, the message comes from Satan.

The truth is that everyone that lives by the law of love, including Gandhi has Christ in him. He was chosen before birth just like you. This is what the bible says. I pray that you can find this message for yourself because the truth will set you free. Free from judging the world and spreading hate and separation. All love comes from the father; the Son is the love in us. All who love have the son.



posted on Jan, 21 2012 @ 01:52 AM
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The doctrine you are preaching is new age and apostate. That contradicts the deity of Christ and by saying love on its own grants salvation is an attempt to negate the death and resurrection of Christ. No one deserves nor can earn salvation, hence works without faith is dead.



posted on Jan, 21 2012 @ 02:14 AM
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The doctrine you are preaching is new age and apostate. That contradicts the deity of Christ and by saying love on its own grants salvation is an attempt to negate the death and resurrection of Christ. No one deserves nor can earn salvation, hence works without faith is dead.


What about a baby born into a family that strictly follows something other than christianity? And this kid grows up in an environment where he has zero access to knowledge of christ? and even if he gets to know christ, what if his lifelong upbringing in a different religion prevents him from accepting Christ?

What happens to him? Hell?
Then why did God put him in such a difficult position, that reduces the chances of him accepting Christ?
Why did God have to allow other religions to flourish?

If you are going to tell me that Satan invented these other religions, why did God let Satan to invent these other religions that condemn people to hell?



posted on Jan, 21 2012 @ 02:14 AM
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Originally posted by hxc408
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The doctrine you are preaching is new age and apostate. That contradicts the deity of Christ and by saying love on its own grants salvation is an attempt to negate the death and resurrection of Christ. No one deserves nor can earn salvation, hence works without faith is dead.


No it perfectly complements the deity of Christ, and the word of God. What you believe causes you to judge. You can continue to condemn good loving people to hell if you choose, but you are breaking the command though shall not judge. You may not say it but by your statement you must believe that Gandhi went to hell, and that is judging him. I am not your judge but I urge you to listen because I don’t want to see any judged by the measure that you are judging your brothers.

Christ says that anyone that speaks a word against him will be forgiven. Then he says love your neighbor as yourself. Read the parable of the Good Samaritan and you will see that your neighbor may just be a Muslim, Hindu, or Jew. I am not sure how telling my loving Muslim neighbor he is going to hell if he is not a Christian is following the commands of Christ.

Again you can continue to break the commands of Christ based on man’s interpretation of scripture or you can listen to one who speaks the truth. By interpretation given by the Holy Spirit I share with you the truth that causes no one to break the commands of Jesus, and to learn how to love your neighbor and stop judging him, both with your words and with your heart.

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posted on Jan, 21 2012 @ 02:25 AM
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Originally posted by sk0rpi0n
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The doctrine you are preaching is new age and apostate. That contradicts the deity of Christ and by saying love on its own grants salvation is an attempt to negate the death and resurrection of Christ. No one deserves nor can earn salvation, hence works without faith is dead.


What about a baby born into a family that strictly follows something other than christianity? And this kid grows up in an environment where he has zero access to knowledge of christ? and even if he gets to know christ, what if his lifelong upbringing in a different religion prevents him from accepting Christ?

What happens to him? Hell?
Then why did God put him in such a difficult position, that reduces the chances of him accepting Christ?
Why did God have to allow other religions to flourish?

If you are going to tell me that Satan invented these other religions, why did God let Satan to invent these other religions that condemn people to hell?


They are not condemned to hell. The law is universal; love your neighbor as yourself. This is the law written on the hearts of all men. This law is the Spirit of Christ in all. All will be judged by this law.

The bible says only to separate ourselves from those who don’t believe in the law of love and those who are unrepentant sinner’s not seeking forgiveness.

Now why would any good loving person want to hang around someone like this anyway?

None are righteous only God. The interpretation taught by the church leads to self righteous, judgmental, condemning people who call themselves Christians. This was not what Jesus taught so they are not following him if they believe this. A true Christian love everyone, wants only to lead all his brothers to salvation, and he leaves all judgment to the father. This is what Christ taught and I will follow him, because he is the truth. The truth that is in us all, if we have love. ALL



posted on Jan, 21 2012 @ 07:33 AM
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Then why did God put him in such a difficult position, that reduces the chances of him accepting Christ?


How much more "difficult" would that be than for a Jewish person at the time of Christ? Or a kid like me who grew up with Secular Humanism shoved down my throat from kindergarten onward?



posted on Jan, 21 2012 @ 08:01 AM
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Originally posted by sk0rpi0n
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The doctrine you are preaching is new age and apostate. That contradicts the deity of Christ and by saying love on its own grants salvation is an attempt to negate the death and resurrection of Christ. No one deserves nor can earn salvation, hence works without faith is dead.


What about a baby born into a family that strictly follows something other than christianity? And this kid grows up in an environment where he has zero access to knowledge of christ? and even if he gets to know christ, what if his lifelong upbringing in a different religion prevents him from accepting Christ?

What happens to him? Hell?
Then why did God put him in such a difficult position, that reduces the chances of him accepting Christ?
Why did God have to allow other religions to flourish?

If you are going to tell me that Satan invented these other religions, why did God let Satan to invent these other religions that condemn people to hell?


If he was chosen he will hear Christ calling to him. If he is a sleeper he will awaken.



posted on Jan, 21 2012 @ 08:09 AM
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I've been working on a theory, and i do not know why this struck me at all but it was like getting hit by a lightning bolt.

Throughout the new testament we are told that we were chosen to believe, and to be one of his. We were predestined to be with him and believe in him. Could it be there were those that were predestined to not believe? What if the reason Jesus wanted us to go out and proclaim the message of his coming, was to find the sleepers who were waiting to accept him upon hearing his message? Perhaps he sent the Apostles out and created the Church to find his lost people who are scattered throughout the world? Granted there may be those who make the choice to be with him and those who refuse him.

I'm not saying it is this way just a theory.



posted on Jan, 21 2012 @ 08:17 AM
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Originally posted by NOTurTypical
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Then why did God put him in such a difficult position, that reduces the chances of him accepting Christ?


How much more "difficult" would that be than for a Jewish person at the time of Christ? Or a kid like me who grew up with Secular Humanism shoved down my throat from kindergarten onward?


I would have to agree here. I had the opposite upbringing. I had the bible shoved down my throat from the age of 6 to 17 and an abusive dad to boot and i quit believing for a long time but i was called back. It was the hypocrisy of my dad that actually made me turn my back on Jesus, he was my stumbling block and when i fell i went down for 14 years.

It's about those who overcome. Being chosen is one thing, being an overcomer is another.



posted on Jan, 21 2012 @ 08:46 AM
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How much more "difficult" would that be than for a Jewish person at the time of Christ? Or a kid like me who grew up with Secular Humanism shoved down my throat from kindergarten onward?


You live in the US, a country which started off as a "christian" nation. Even despite the "secular humanism", Churches and people eager to share the message of christ are not be too difficult to find.
What about some kid born in some village in say, India or Pakistan where other religons are more dominant? and is rather a way of life?

If christianity was THE way, then how can you say these kids had a fair chance??



posted on Jan, 21 2012 @ 08:54 AM
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Could it be there were those that were predestined to not believe?


If by "believe", you are referring to the christian way, then you are saying God pre-destined some people not to believe, and that they were pre-destined to burn in hell forever.



posted on Jan, 21 2012 @ 09:02 AM
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I ask you to refrain from posting comments until you have watched the video in its entirety

Sorry, the video is an hour and thirty five minutes long.
My guess is it is more of your racist hatred against Muslims and how they all have to be killed because they are born evil while somehow you were born good.



posted on Jan, 21 2012 @ 10:39 AM
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Originally posted by sk0rpi0n
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How much more "difficult" would that be than for a Jewish person at the time of Christ? Or a kid like me who grew up with Secular Humanism shoved down my throat from kindergarten onward?


You live in the US, a country which started off as a "christian" nation. Even despite the "secular humanism", Churches and people eager to share the message of christ are not be too difficult to find.
What about some kid born in some village in say, India or Pakistan where other religons are more dominant? and is rather a way of life?

If christianity was THE way, then how can you say these kids had a fair chance??


Well, back it up to where Christianity started. What about Jews 2,000 years ago.



posted on Jan, 21 2012 @ 10:45 AM
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Originally posted by lonewolf19792000
I've been working on a theory, and i do not know why this struck me at all but it was like getting hit by a lightning bolt.

Throughout the new testament we are told that we were chosen to believe, and to be one of his. We were predestined to be with him and believe in him. Could it be there were those that were predestined to not believe? What if the reason Jesus wanted us to go out and proclaim the message of his coming, was to find the sleepers who were waiting to accept him upon hearing his message? Perhaps he sent the Apostles out and created the Church to find his lost people who are scattered throughout the world? Granted there may be those who make the choice to be with him and those who refuse him.

I'm not saying it is this way just a theory.


You're close to the parable of the wheat and the tares. This parable contains no hint that a wheat ever becomes a tare, or that a tare ever becomes (or can become) a wheat.



posted on Jan, 21 2012 @ 11:53 AM
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Well, back it up to where Christianity started. What about Jews 2,000 years ago.


I didn't get what you were saying? Could you elaborate? what do the jews 2000 years ago have to do with this?



posted on Jan, 21 2012 @ 12:31 PM
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Originally posted by lonewolf19792000

Originally posted by NOTurTypical
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Then why did God put him in such a difficult position, that reduces the chances of him accepting Christ?


How much more "difficult" would that be than for a Jewish person at the time of Christ? Or a kid like me who grew up with Secular Humanism shoved down my throat from kindergarten onward?


I would have to agree here. I had the opposite upbringing. I had the bible shoved down my throat from the age of 6 to 17 and an abusive dad to boot and i quit believing for a long time but i was called back. It was the hypocrisy of my dad that actually made me turn my back on Jesus, he was my stumbling block and when i fell i went down for 14 years.

It's about those who overcome. Being chosen is one thing, being an overcomer is another.


You can work on all the theories you want or you could realize that you have accepted the wrong interpretation. I have posted this many times but still people want to accept an interpretation that leads to judgment and hate. Why does anyone simply refuse to believe what I am saying is true? Sometimes I think Christians want to feel chosen over the rest of the world and want to hold on to their judgment seat.

I will post this again, because it is the truth. All who have love have the son. Therefore all who have love were chosen. The parable of the wheat and tares suggest that some are born without love. I believe Serial Killers, War Mongers, they might be that kind of person. The person that convinces another to strap a bomb to himself to commit suicide and kill as many innocent people as possible. The people who orchestrated 9/11. These are the people that at least to me represent the tares.

My good friend and coworker who happens to be Muslim is not a tare, and the bible makes it clear that he is not. Gandhi was not a tare. If he was a tare we will all be joining him in hell. Because he taught the message of love. His words and actions were Christ-like, how could this be true if the son was not in him.

Christians and the world I beg you to accept the interpretation that eliminates all this judgment and hate. Christ did not teach judgment and hate. I am bringing you the truth, and what I bring does not cause anyone to contradict the bible.

So the question is who has Jesus in them? The church teaches that one must say they have the son in order to receive Christ in them. But this is not true. Here is how you know who has Christ in them. And where the confusion starts. But I will clear this up for all who see this message.



1 John 4:7-15 7 Dear friends let us love one another, for love comes from God. Everyone who loves has been born of God and knows God. 8 Whoever does not love does not know God, because God is love. 9 This is how God showed his love among us: He sent his one and only Son into the world that we might live through him. 10 This is love: not that we loved God, but that he loved us and sent his Son as an atoning sacrifice for our sins. 11 Dear friends, since God so loved us, we also ought to love one another. 12 No one has ever seen God; but if we love one another, God lives in us and his love is made complete in us.

***************These are 2 separate concepts that the church has merged into one*****************

13 This is how we know that we live in him and he in us: He has given us of his Spirit. 14 And we have seen and testify that the Father has sent his Son to be the Savior of the world. 15 If anyone acknowledges that Jesus is the Son of God, God lives in them and they in God. 16 And so we know and rely on the love God has for us.


In the top part of the passage it is being explained who has the son in them. It is clear by this passage that EVERYONE WHO LOVES IS BORN OF GOD AND KNOWS GOD, because GOD IS LOVE. So if you love you prove the son lives in you.

The second part of the message says that you must acknowledge that Jesus is the Son of God, Anyone who acknowledges this, God lives in them and THEY IN GOD.

This is 2 separate messages love proves that the son lives in you, acknowledging it proves that you live in him. You can’t live in him if you don’t acknowledge that the son lives in you. But this does not mean that the son does not live in you.

Notice these verses mention nothing about baptism, observing Sabbaths, only that those who love prove that Jesus lives in them. The one thing that I believe will elude the non believer is baptism of the Holy Spirit, simply because they do not believe in it.

The son and the baptism of the Holy Spirit are 2 completely different things, this is why we have the father, the son, and the Holy Spirit. 3 different gifts.

The father is the gift to all of creation, the son is the gift for all who have and know love, the Holy Spirit is the gift for all who have faith in the son. You must not simply believe, even the demons believe, you must prove your faith through works, than you will receive the baptism from Christ.

So what about all the other stuff. The other stuff are all outward signs. They are good for you to observe as they prove that you are a follower of Christ but the one command that we must put above all others is love. Love the father and Love the neighbor as thyself.

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