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Judge Denies Obama Motion To Quash Subpoena

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posted on Jan, 21 2012 @ 07:29 AM
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posted on Jan, 21 2012 @ 07:30 AM
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Originally posted by FlyersFan
It would be nice for this to go through the court system and to have it done ... one way or the other. But considering the professionally made fake birth certificate that recently came out of the white house, I'm thinking that TPTB have got all their ducks in a row to cover for their lil' puppet-man.


The motion to quash really, really suggests to me at this point that Barry can't back his claims up. At least not in front of the doc experts.

Because if the Obama cabal felt they could win the court case, a better strategy would be to just go to court, and let doc experts sort it out. And shut the Birthers up for good. The Doofers, Shills and Race Card Idiots are going to have hell to pay if indeed this turns out that Barry's an illegal alien. You know how long I have been taking heat and ridicule over this? Every single time I have ever posted a story about it. Paybacks are hell, and I'm going to make sure of it.

But yeah FF, bribed experts, judges and even jurors are a big concern. Obama's probably sitting there in disbelief that it could have even gone this far. If he can't back up his claims, and the release of records produce documents that incriminate him, his best option is to resign, rather than be drug through the ringer. He's got all his signed legislation and EO's to protect.



posted on Jan, 21 2012 @ 07:34 AM
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Originally posted by TrueAmerican
bribed experts, judges and even jurors are a big concern.


This is what Orly and other "birthers" will claim when she loses once again, they will just claim that everyone was bribed.



posted on Jan, 21 2012 @ 07:35 AM
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Where are the same records released by all previous presidents? None of them released any more than Obama, so why demand the first black President release theirs....


Here is an example for you. John Kennedy's college thesis'


His thesis, published that year as a book entitled Why England Slept, became a bestseller.[13] In the fall of 1940, Kennedy enrolled and audited classes at the Stanford Graduate School of Business.[14] In early 1941, he helped his father complete the writing of a memoir of his three years as an American ambassador and then traveled throughout South America.


Why England Slept, Thesis by J Kennedy

Looks like Obama went there also Obama joins list of 7 presidents with Harvard degrees

I will check back later and see if you post Obama's thesis.



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posted on Jan, 21 2012 @ 07:35 AM
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Originally posted by spoor

Originally posted by Deetermined
The fact that you even have to ask, "what documents?" only goes to show that you have no idea what the President has or has not released.


Where are the same records released by all previous presidents? None of them released any more than Obama, so why demand the first black President release theirs....


What's with the "black" reference?

You do realize that McCain's birth was investigated too, right?



posted on Jan, 21 2012 @ 07:35 AM
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posted on Jan, 21 2012 @ 07:43 AM
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Originally posted by spoor
Where are the same records released by all previous presidents? None of them released any more than Obama, so why demand the first black President release theirs....

BOOM! There it is .. the race card.
Buddy .. it has NOTHING to do with skin color. Jeeze ... It has everything to do with transparency and the fact that his past is totally fogged in. It has everything to do with the fact that Americans have a right to know if their POTUS meets the requirements as set out by the US Constitution.

The ONLY reason Americans are questioning Obama is because his past is so convoluted - his past includes his birth and 'convoluted' includes the two very fake 'birth certificates' that have been put forth as being 'authentic'. No other president has had these issues in their lives ... convoluted past and fake birth certificates being issued.

As for those who have ran for POTUS - It was a question in McCains case for a while (TAKE NOTE - HE IS NOT BLACK!!), but Washington DC issued an official statement of citizenship and that McCain meet the requirements to run for POTUS.

LEFT WING - New York Times questioning McCain (WHO IS WHITE) being a natural born citizen

Text of Resolution 511 - McCain a citizen and can run for POTUS

Jeeeze ... the freak'n race card brought up again. :shk:
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posted on Jan, 21 2012 @ 07:44 AM
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Originally posted by Deetermined
You do realize that McCain's birth was investigated too, right?


So was Obama's and remember

www.upi.com...

The U.S. House of Representatives Monday approved a resolution observing Hawaii's statehood anniversary and noting the Aloha State is Barack Obama's birthplace.


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posted on Jan, 21 2012 @ 07:48 AM
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Originally posted by spoor

The U.S. House of Representatives Monday approved a resolution observing Hawaii's statehood anniversary and noting the Aloha State is Barack Obama's birthplace.


They're a little late. Actually, they're very late. There's already a monument in Kenya.



posted on Jan, 21 2012 @ 07:50 AM
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Originally posted by spoor
So was Obama's and remember ...

.... and remember that's NOT the same as the legally binding resolution that was passed in the case of John McCain. It was just a footnote in a non-legal binding 'waste time and make nice' type of document that was issued. Nothing more.



posted on Jan, 21 2012 @ 07:51 AM
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Originally posted by spoor

Originally posted by TrueAmerican
bribed experts, judges and even jurors are a big concern.


This is what Orly and other "birthers" will claim when she loses once again, they will just claim that everyone was bribed.


Have you even seen the evidence she has?? At this point i think the only way she COULD loose is if everyone where bribed. If you had actually bothered to check the evidence, maybe you should let us in on what you know that no one else seem to know, since you seem to still believe his BC is real. How about you start with answering these questions.



1. Back in 1961 people of color were called ‘Negroes.’ So how can the Obama ‘birth certificate’ state he is ‘African-American’ when the term wasn’t even used at that time?

2. The birth certificate that the White House released lists Obama’s birth as August 4, 1961. It also lists Barack Hussein Obama as his father. No big deal, right? At the time of Obama’s birth, it also shows that his father is aged 25 years old, and that Obama’s father was born in ” Kenya , East Africa “. This wouldn’t seem like anything of concern, except the fact that Kenya did not even exist until 1963, two whole years after Obama’s birth, and 27 years after his father’s birth. How could Obama’s father have been born in a country that did not yet exist? Up and until Kenya was formed in 1963, it was known as the ” British East Africa Protectorate.”

3. On the birth certificate released by the White House, the listed place of birth is “Kapi’olani Maternity & Gynecological Hospital “. This cannot be, because the hospital(s) in question in 1961 were called “KauiKeolani Children’s Hospital” and “Kapi’olani Maternity Home”, respectively. The name did not change to Kapi’olani Maternity & Gynecological Hospital until 1978, when these two hospitals merged. How can this particular name of the hospital be on a birth certificate dated 1961 if this name had not yet been applied to it until 1978?


From here weeklyworldnews.com...

Or explain how he can have 39 different social security numbers as evidenced by multiple private investigators, among those one scotland yard detective as explained here.




posted on Jan, 21 2012 @ 07:53 AM
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posted on Jan, 21 2012 @ 07:58 AM
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even worse .. didn't the first fake 'birth certificate' say his fathers race was 'African'? Africa is a continent .. not a race. That would be like my birth certificate saying my race was 'North American'. for that time period race = negroid, caucasoid (or caucasian), asian on official documents. (I worked in corporate security handling personal documents for security clearances ... we wouldn't have passed 'africa' if it had ever come across our desks .. and it did not ever show up.



posted on Jan, 21 2012 @ 07:59 AM
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Actually, Neo, the name of the hospital on Obama's long form birth certificate is the same as a set of twins that were born in that hospital the day after Obama.

However, the registration number on his birth certificate comes after theirs.

The speculation on how the registration number came into being is...


“Did anyone notice the birth announcements are not in any alphabetic order, or in order of birthdate?" asked Crosby, "This is because, in 1961, birth registration numbers were issued based on the location of the local Vital Records office in which the registration was recorded. The hospital does not assign these numbers, the DOH does."

"Obama’s birth was registered in an office not used by any of the hospitals' registration locations who only received medically verified "Live Birth" certificates from either Kapi'olani Medical Center, or Queen's Medical Center. These had access to a local registrar near those facilities,” said Crosby.

He continued, “It appears Obama’s birth was registered with the satellite office near his grandparent’s home some distance from the offices nearest to and most used by the hospitals, a location not commonly used by any medical facility. This particular office was commonly used by indigenous people of Hawaii wanting to record births of children outside of the city. This is why the U.S. Department of Health created the Certificate of Live Birth template in 1959 with a check box indicating whether or not the child was born in the city limits and if the residence of the mother was a farm or not. It appears Obama’s birth at least did not occur in the city of Honolulu and, at most, did not even occur in the state of Hawaii.”


thedailypen.blogspot.com...



posted on Jan, 21 2012 @ 07:59 AM
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posted on Jan, 21 2012 @ 08:05 AM
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So how can the name of the hospital differ from the long and short form version?

And btw you need to fix that double-clicking mouse you have dude...



posted on Jan, 21 2012 @ 08:09 AM
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Originally posted by NeoVain
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So how can the name of the hospital differ from the long and short form version?

And btw you need to fix that double-clicking mouse you have dude...


I don't remember the name of the hospital even being on the short form.

Let's see if unplugging my mouse keep this from double posting.



posted on Jan, 21 2012 @ 08:13 AM
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Originally posted by NeoVain

1. Back in 1961 people of color were called ‘Negroes.’ So how can the Obama ‘birth certificate’ state he is ‘African-American’ when the term wasn’t even used at that time?

2. The birth certificate that the White House released lists Obama’s birth as August 4, 1961. It also lists Barack Hussein Obama as his father. No big deal, right? At the time of Obama’s birth, it also shows that his father is aged 25 years old, and that Obama’s father was born in ” Kenya , East Africa “. This wouldn’t seem like anything of concern, except the fact that Kenya did not even exist until 1963, two whole years after Obama’s birth, and 27 years after his father’s birth. How could Obama’s father have been born in a country that did not yet exist? Up and until Kenya was formed in 1963, it was known as the ” British East Africa Protectorate.”

3. On the birth certificate released by the White House, the listed place of birth is “Kapi’olani Maternity & Gynecological Hospital “. This cannot be, because the hospital(s) in question in 1961 were called “KauiKeolani Children’s Hospital” and “Kapi’olani Maternity Home”, respectively. The name did not change to Kapi’olani Maternity & Gynecological Hospital until 1978, when these two hospitals merged. How can this particular name of the hospital be on a birth certificate dated 1961 if this name had not yet been applied to it until 1978?


Those statements are just not true, also have a look at the name on the Nordyke twins birth certificate....

www.snopes.com...


Or explain how he can have 39 different social security numbers


Again, not true
arthurgoldwag.wordpress.com...



posted on Jan, 21 2012 @ 08:15 AM
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Originally posted by Deetermined

Originally posted by NeoVain
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So how can the name of the hospital differ from the long and short form version?

And btw you need to fix that double-clicking mouse you have dude...


I don't remember the name of the hospital even being on the short form.

Let's see if unplugging my mouse keep this from double posting.


Well what is this then



weeklyworldnews.com...
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posted on Jan, 21 2012 @ 08:18 AM
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I'm glad you were able to post the video again.

People are attacking Orly without having any idea what she's about or the research she has done via competent investigation professionals.

Orly was a Russian. She has lived under an oppressive regime and now as an American is in a unique position to see the similarities between that regime and the things Obama is doing. More than most Americans she can appreciate the freedoms we have through the U.S. Constitution. People need to really consider where she's coming from instead of dismissing her out of hand.



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