I did some reading last night after the CNN debate after a friend of mine reminded me about the superdelegates during the GOP nomination process. If
we remember the battle between Obama and Clinton during the democratic nomination process in 2008. This was a big deal because Obama and Clinton were
going tit-for-tat until the end. We already know how much of an impact Superdelegates can have in the nomination process. The election in 2008 is a
prime example on how it can tilt the nomination process which in turn could void the choice of the people. Here is some info for the 2012 nomination
process and how many superdelegates there are and the superdelegates that could overturn a front-runner's chance at being the GOP nominee!
What are Super-delegates? (For the GOP/RNC they are just called Pledged Delegates)
At the 2008 Democratic National Convention the superdelegates made up approximately one-fifth of the total number of delegates. The closeness of the
race between the leading contenders, Hillary Rodham Clinton and Barack Obama, led to speculation that the superdelegates would play a decisive role in
selecting the nominee, a prospect that caused unease among some Democratic Party leaders. Obama, however, won a majority of the pledged delegates and
of the superdelegates, and won the Democratic presidential nomination.
For Republicans, in 2012, there are potentially 3 unpledged delegates in each state, consisting of the state chairman and two RNC committeemen/women.
However, certain states either don't have superdelegates, or they do, but the votes are bound by the results of the state vote. In 2012 there are a
total of 132 Republican superdelegates.
States that have winner-take-all rules. any of these states not mentioned in this list have superdelegates that don't have to vote for the winner.
they can vote for anyone they want.
Superdelegates from the following states: AZ, DE, FL, GA, KS, MI, MO, NH, NJ, NV, SC, VT. are bound by their state's results, and therefore are not
included in the list. Their names can be found in a separate table after the break.This leaves a total of 132 GOP superdelegates
Thats 12/50 states that are forced to vote for the states winner on the caucus or primary day. that leaves 132 superdelegates up for grabs. They can
vote for any candidate they choose. Is the election fixed?
I cannot answer that question because technically it is up in the air. 12/50 states reflect the winners while the rest people can cancel out the
peoples choice. So I guess you can say in a way yes it is fixed, but not completely. only 132 Superdelegates are up for grabs which leaves a majority
of the say up to the people but the race that we are witnessing now is a close one just like in 2008. (Dejavu) meaning regardless of the popular vote
for each state's winner in the end if it remains close the choice can still be up to the RNC no matter how fractured the GOP is. We all heard of the
'status quo' and the 'establishment' buzz words flying around and these superdelegates could be the reason why they are used. because the people
really don't have a say about it. its an 'insider' paradox. Its there but we don't know which way these delegates can swing... and by the looks of it
Mitt Romney has a lot of pledged delegates already and the ATS favorite Ron Paul have Zilch, Nada, 0.
In the end, based on my understanding is that irregardless of the peoples choice in the end and if its close, the peoples voices and say could be
nullified by these delegates in the end. This could go for any candidate on stage right now.
Example: (please note this is just an example and not reflective of the real delegate map... this is to just give you an idea.)
Lets just say there are 2 candidates left. Mitt Romney & Ron Paul. Lets just say for the sake of argument that their delegate tallies after the 50
states have counted their voter selected delegates.
Mitt Romney: 1225
Ron Paul: 1275
Now lets go to the national convention. Lets just assume Romney takes the Bulk of those superdelegates. remember there are 132 in total.
Mitt Romney receives 100 SD's and Ron Paul gets the rest. That would leave us with this total.
Mitt Romney: 1325
Ron Paul: 1307
This means Romney will take the nomination although (This is still hypothetical) Ron Paul would of won the peoples choice for the GOP. Since Romney
received those delegates (which are not reflective of the people.) this would wreak of a setup right? This was the same worry on these boards during
Obama fever in 2008 and now they may dominate this election process as well.
The reasoning behind these superdelegates or unpledged delegates is to prevent radical or extreme candidates from receiving the nomination for their
respected party. In other words if the elected officials (who have delegate powers) don't like the peoples choice and if the elections are close, they
can always flip the election to what the establishment wants to prevent the status quo from changing.
if anyone else has anymore information on these delegates, please feel free to add it. Thanks for reading.
edit on 1/20/2012 by ugie1028
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