Fired Vatican Hebrew Translator exposes the OT for what it is in his LITERAL translation of the Hebr, page 4
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reply posted on 20-1-2012 @ 08:16 AM by SquirrelNutz
Originally posted by scary
Originally posted by Patriotsrevenge
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Don't be fooled. This guy is lying through his teeth. This is one of the only guys who has the credentials to interpret the bible correctly and what he says completely smashes Zac Sitchin's BS.

Mike Heiser is a scholar in the fields of biblical studies and the ancient Near East. He is the Academic Editor of Logos Bible Software. Mike earned the M.A. and Ph.D. in Hebrew Bible and Semitic Languages at the University of Wisconsin-Madison in 2004. He has also earned an M.A. in Ancient History from the University of Pennsylvania (major fields: Ancient Israel and Egyptology). His main research interests are Israelite religion (especially Israel’s divine council), biblical theology, ancient Near Eastern religion, biblical & ancient Semitic languages, and ancient Jewish binitarian monotheism.

Mike blogs about biblical studies at The Naked Bible, and fringe beliefs about archaeology and antiquity at PaleoBabble. He offers courses on the Old Testament, New Testament, Biblical theology, and various ancient languages through his online institute, MEMRA. He has also written several articles and short books on these sorts of subjects.

Mike's other academic interests include the paranormal and the occult. His UFO Religions blog discusses how the belief in aliens shapes modern religious worldviews. Mike has been a frequent guest on a number of radio programs such as Coast to Coast AM. He is best known for his critique of the ancient astronaut theories of Zecharia Sitchin and his paranormal thriller, The Facade, which intertwines many of his interests.


www.michaelsheiser.com...

You want to know the absolute true well dig through his site and you will see for yourself.

www.michaelsheiser.com... This one page bust the whole UFO-Roswell MYTH!! See the pretty pic's? His book is pretty good reading too as its a story based on what he thinks is happening now between our governments and what the gov, thinks are aliens. I read the whole book in two nights so it must be good.

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Mauro is NOT lying through his teeth, he has no agenda. He is making a LITERAL translation of the OT and using only as it was written using consonates and without injecting meaning. The symbols mean what they mean...and nothing more or less. THAT is where Mauro is winning and your bloke is FAIL. Mauro has no vested interest in making the characters say something that they do not. Here is another LITERAL translation project...and sorry but your dude has an agenda.

another literal translation project who are the supreme ONES



Wow! Are we to believe that this [your last link in the quotation above] is what turned into Genisis?!

Either way, it is painfully obvious that the original documents (scripture - really just a 'History' book) are referring to a race of beings (as exemplified by the many references to the 'Supreme Ones') and NOT about a single, omnipotent, all-knowing Being. That much is obvious.

Certainly sounds like AAT, to me.
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reply posted on 20-1-2012 @ 08:29 AM by patmac573
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you are not going to to open any closed minds so do not argue with them....great post I am watching now thanks


reply posted on 20-1-2012 @ 08:33 AM by ukantcme
What I truly love about this and many other forums is how people, individuals, inject into their posts "their" interpretations of what they "believe", i.e. how they were taught. Be it through the school system, religious institutions, peers and so on. To deny that this man that the OP has posted on is perverting "Original" text. That is to say the same human instinct that survives today to interpret "their" meaning into an "Original" text with out any type of learned training or through simply their own belief structure.

I feel jaded, I guess is the word I want to use, when I read simple minded, obtuse reactions to scholarly incites on a public forum. It saddens me that the OP and his post is being judged by individuals who, for what ever reason, refuse to take the blinders that the many institutions over the years have placed over their eyes. Why?? Why can these individuals step outside of their "canned" responses that they have formulated over the years and begin to look at this and other posts with open eyes?? Do you realize that comments like, "The pope is Jesus", or "The Lord will strike down your attempts for knowledge", or "I don't have time to watch a 15 minute video from a person that has spent his entire adult life researching a dead language and bringing his knowledge to the masses." Really?? 15 minutes of your life. Yes I do realize in the Before you post sections to summarize what the video is saying, but I believe that the OT did set a precedent for the video and article. It got me to watch and...re-register for this site.

I guess for all intensive purposes, I will have to, as in life, read over the mindless ramblings of trolls and the like and read with interest knowledgeable conversations from both sides of the discussion. Meaning there is no judgement with any post on any subject, just "informed" reactions from either side of the argument.

Thank you OP for this post and I hope to read....and watch more of what is to come.


reply posted on 20-1-2012 @ 08:44 AM by Hessdalen
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Originally posted by Seed76
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so sad, if hed worked for the vatican like OP claimed id listen but seems like hes just a sell-out...


Actually, you do not have to work for the Vatican in order to translate ancient texts etc. All you need are some credentials. So far i have found none, not even from his official site. I think it´s more or less promoting a new book.

1. His official biography.

Source

2. No records found in "Edizioni SaN Paolo", neither as curator/illustrator or author.

Source

3. You do not have to be employed by Vatican in order to research in the Secret Archives.

Source

Hope that helps

Peace


so it seems hes just talking, i am glad soemone searched too because i couldnt find something neither...

in the end hes just a ancient-alien guy (no offence, i am one too) who claimed he can back the theory with hq-secret vatican skillz...sad...because if hed worked for teh vatican and was a credible, high ranking translator i would really listen to every word of him but seems like hes just a sell-out....
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reply posted on 20-1-2012 @ 08:51 AM by KristianTNA
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Hi OP, currently travelling so cant watch currently.
It sound interesting and am really looking forward to it.

To read passages, text and scripture in its original context, should definately be a pursuit of anyone with an interest, whether religious, schloarly or historical.


K.


reply posted on 20-1-2012 @ 09:06 AM by Numino
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That´s why "god", if he returns, will find sheeple to follow him again. This hurts.

OP, thank you for the video. I already watched all 6 parts. Some of the things he said I already figured out by my own research, but it was an eyeopener anyway, it´s great to hear someone else speaking about things you always wanted to know! (Cain and Able) I had a argument with my teacher in school long time ago. He could not explain the "why"!


reply posted on 20-1-2012 @ 09:27 AM by TiM3LoRd
Originally posted by mcdgray129
Ok after watching the 3rd video (I will watch the rest) this guy is wrong. The God was a kind and loving person, that is why we are here. whoever this guy is on about is not god, but seems more like the devil in the 3rd video...


its one thing to watch a video but it's another to take in the information presented in it. The Old testament god has been shown to NOT be a loving and caring god as much as it is portrayed in the new testament.

The problem i see here is in your inability to differentiate between WHO you THINK god is and WHAT god is described as in the old testament. The fact of the matter regardless what fantasy you want to believe so you can fall asleep at night is that you have been lied to. Im sorry thats just the reality of the situation. im not the person that brainwashed you so dont take your anger out on me or anybody else trying to show you information that might disagree with what you have been told.

Humans are fantastic at deluding themselves. But there comes a time when you have to wake up and smell the BS that has been pushed down the throats of billions just to keep them under control. Its actually sad to see so many good hearted and trusting people lied to and manipulated. And its this very nature of kindness that allows them to be manipulated so easily. We are not the enemy we are the ones trying to educate you to the truth. the real enemy is the ones trying to keep you in the dark.

Who has more to loose you or them? logic wins out every time. The church needs you you dont need the church.

The house of god is within you.
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