Indictment Charges Megaupload Site With Piracy

Originally posted by Fractured.Facade
The copyright warnings have been displayed for a very long time... Ignorance is no excuse for the law.

If there is a product for sale, at a price, and people are taking that product for FREE, that is STEALING.

No matter how you justify it, or defend it, stealing is wrong, and inside of every human is constant awareness of this.

You know right and wrong!

Just because it is available in digital form, doesn't make stealing it okay.... Society is lost when people have no respect for property and rights to it.

Oh seriously, cry more. Information, ideas, so called "intellectual property" in the form of digital media, these are private property only as long as they are not made available to the public.

You cannot capitalize on information. It will be spread. The entertainment industry cannot force people to pay for information and ideas. If they are investing loads of their own money into the development of entertainment, then the burden is upon them to also develop a means to communicate those ideas to the masses, without incurring losses in the form of so-called "ghost profits".

Seriously, you're trying to lay a guilt trip on people for sharing ideas? Really? Information is insubstantial and cannot be expected to be capitalized on without end.

What next, should we give people citations for revealing hit movie plot details? You're ridiculous.

If anything, the rapid spread of information only HELPS to keep the industry alive. People who download these things are not going to suddenly leave their computer chairs and head straight over the the local music or movie store. Pop culture is heavily reliant on the spread of ideas on a person to person basis. No amount of advertising can force someone to watch a movie on demand. Just because you're a huge company spending millions on promotions, you can't claim a loss due to piracy, because you cannot prove your advertising magically put money in the pockets of the public to spend in the first place. If no one has money, no one is spending it on media, period. The industry then fails, because there is not enough public hype about their "product" to reach the people who DO have money and incentive to purchase.

Even referring to information as "product" is insulting. You should be ashamed of yourself for supporting the capitalization and subsequent public gouging for ideas.

Originally posted by yourignoranceisbliss
What next, should we give people citations for revealing hit movie plot details? You're ridiculous.

Great idea That or just shoot em...

reply to post by TheOneElectric

They are going to have to go out there, fill those stadium seats, sell the merchandise, meet the people, and be a star.

you said it ...
just like back in the Classical era 18th century & Industrial Age era 19th century

at the rate of this is going .. Stage plays will once again be a big hit as it was since the 1700s
and when Mozart was a rock star!! in that era .. Musicians and Actors will work harder for their pay

everyone that could play the Piano or Compose was playing and reproducing Mozart's work
during the Classical Era . I would think when people were playing His Masterpieces

I would assume The Ones that listen were thinking of the Original Creator hey that's Mozart Work !


Also Mozart would of been known in modern day as the Sound Track musician
for his Plays & Opera in his lifetime


thanks to you You Government Shills for destroying musical Creation ...

Good Bye Remixes! goodbye samplers and goodbye Rap Hip hop & POP

Soon ...That .Happy Birthday to You Song .. will be gone

I can See the Music & the Movies will soon be in Speak Easy

No More taping off the Radio .. nor your favorite TV Show and Goodbye Old YouTube
Hello to Restricted YouTube bye bye Privacy

This has Happened Once ! in Germany in the 1930s a Bill called the Enabling Act of 1933
Censored & Restricted the German People to Hell even to Burn the Knowledge

Google :The Famous Nazi Book Burning while you still can ...


It Happened a second Time .. in THE U.S.A. Patriot Act !!

Are We are Heading to a One Channel Program Society.. Restricting And Censoring the Public to Hell a Complete Dumb Down of our People Shutting Out the World Isolating Us from Information Knowledge and Truth ?

Is there a Place that Exist like a Orwellian Society ?

It Sure Does in this present day The Nation : North Korea..

I Remember Lars Ulrich from Metallica was so Against Napster Displaying Metallica's Songs

Years Later He realized that there were People in 3rd World Counties that wasn't Able to get their
Music let alone Heard of Metallica and when they did those that listened Formed Heavy Metal bands
because of the Influence of Hearing those Pirated Song from Metallica Especially the Middle East Region

Lars Ulrich did a 180 Turn around

There are Videos on you tube that Shows this Turn around ...

Here One : Display this to Congress Against SOPA .....

Lars Ulrich eats his words (Global Metal)


The Past

The Old Lars

Metallica Napster ad



Speaking of Movies All Directors and Producers and Writers Even !! Copied Stealing Others Ideas
from other Movies!! mostly without permission Should they be Arrested too >?

Example Star Wars ... George Lucas !

The Scrolling Text Intro ! in Star Wars Episode 4

Was Stolen From The Old Buck Rodgers 1930s Series

See the Explanation Here

you'll be surprised if you did not Know!!

Star War Origins (Flash Gordon )
moongadget.com...

Indiana Jones ( Raiders of the Lost Ark )

Stolen the Big Runaway Bolder chase Sequence

Finding the Location of the Ark The pole and Medallion

the same as finding the entrance to the center of the Earth

From the Movie Journey to the Center of the Earth (1959 )



Indiana Jones creation from the Influences of the Following

Zorro Rides Again
Zorro's Fighting Legion
Stagecoach
Gunga Din
Casablanca
China

The Treasure of the Sierra Madre
Secret of the Incas
The Naked Jungle
Valley of the Kings
Lawrence of Arabia
MacKenna's Gold

Raiders of the lost ark 1981


Journey to the center of the earth 1959


Journey to the center of the earth 1959
Sunbeam illuminates entrance to adventure on opposing range.



Raiders of the lost ark
Staff of RA and sunbeam finding the location of the ARK in the replicated Model




If George Lucas and Steven Spielberg can Steal Ideas or Copy them

why cant Dj's Remix Songs or Rap Artist Sample

Well Microsoft Did with Stealing Apples LISA /Macintosh operation System and Called it Windows as Apple themselves got the Idea from Xerox GUI Computer operating Systems but with permission as Microsoft has Ripped off the DOS from Seattle Computers without Their Full Knowledge of Understanding of what was going
to be done with the O.S.

See the Movie : Pirates of Silicon Valley

Good bye Fair Use Act Good bye Educational Purposes Good By freedom of Information


Ohh I almost forgot !!!

Here is the Comparison of the Text Scrolling and the Music !!
Amazing ! see the Original 1930 series of Flash Gordan Text Scroll Intro
if you are not Convinced ...

Star Flash Gordon Wars

A visual comparison of the famous opening title crawl of Star Wars and the somewhat less famous (but earlier) opening title crawl of the 1930's Flash Gordon serial.

Stolen!!!

Star Wars opening crawl
en.wikipedia.org...

Test.

Test.

What the F@#& is the world getting more retarded everyday? how can people be so ignorant how can you put a price on what you see with your eyes thats like saying that I cannot look at a picture of the mona lisa on my computer because it's copywritten by some idiot who may not have even painted the picture, or I cant listen to a song with my friends on a website without being prosecuted by the US federal court, damn. one of these days i might just have to kill myself so i wont have to deal with all of the ignorance in the world.

"don't breathe in any air from that little spot right there, we will find you, and we'll prosecute you."-All Bitchass Major Labels & FBI

Originally posted by RSF77
You want an example of artistic theft, watch the show "Wipeout" then watch "Ninja Warrior", I don't see Japanese companies filing any butthurt applications over it, do you? That is theft, so what is being done about it? Or does that only apply to people providing and downloading stuff in the privacy of their homes?

Indeed.

Or watch Kimba the White Lion (AKA Jungle Emperor) and then watch Disney's The Lion King

Or watch Nadia: Secret of Blue Water and then watch Disney's Atlantis: Lost Empire.

Or many other Disney/Animee rip-offs.


This kinda stuff goes on all the time.

And yes, Apparently it only counts when individuals do it and make no money from it.
When huge corporations do it and make millions (Billions) it's fine.

Originally posted by Invariance
You know, back in the day we used to tape songs off the radio on our cassette players.... and tv shows to watch later on VHS....

OH how times have changed!

Imagine how many people would have been jailed in the 80's for that??

I do!! Remember sitting next to the radio with a tape recorder, ready to press record as soon as a favorite song came on. I know someone who would tape shows on VHS, bring em' on the rez and sell them for $2 - 3 a pop. And we bought them!! Because we couldn't afford cable.

reply to post by TheOneElectric


Reminds me of prohibition and the MOB; got them through racketerring and money laundering. Of course they brought down some of the most notorious mobsters...but there were others to replace and restrategize and still exist today.

I know one site that is much like megavideo that is still up and that's videobb. Has that 72 minute limit and all too


Hated that limit.

Originally posted by MastaShake
i honestly cant wait to see what happens with this crap.

I can see it now. millions of people try to get online and see a fbi page saying that the internets been shutdown for the time being due to terrorist activities. 5 minutes later there are violent riots in the streets and fbi buildings on fire across the country

You take away napster, people are like.. meh. Ok. Kinda mad. Oh well. Go on to bear share or soulseek.
Take away megaupload, well.. people are like.... NOW I'm mad.

Take away all the internet.... there will be some crazy people then.....
There are way too many people addicted to it, and rely on it for every thing..... I've seen people who can't even sit down at a dinner table in a restaurant and eat without checking their phone repeatedly. Or watch a movie... without texting.

As I have said before.... in the past on these forums... I grew up with out internet. One phone in the house... and we communicated face to face back then when the phone was shut off.

It will be a whole new world if the ability to communicate online is shut off. It will be interesting to see that happen... I think only then will people come out of their slumbers.

reply to post by Wolfenz


Lars Ulrich is the biggest nob!!!

His Video @ the bottom didn't even make sense to begin with.

Dude sharing his music through file sharing network.
Lars comes through the door and starts stealing all this poor guys stuff.

Seems logical?



These are 2 completely different circumstances altogether.

Share/------------Copy/-----------Steal/.

Once The government get this through their head, the world will be a better place.

I copy stuff from the internet, Music, Movies, Games, Books without any intention of buying them even if i like them.

If i like the band i will support them by purchasing a T shirt at their concert when they come to town.
If i think i will enjoy a movie i will go to the Cinema and see it.
If i miss seeing that movie in the cinema, i will download it for free.
If the game has online playing capabilities and gets epic reviews i will more than likely buy it to access the online functions and game play.

My intentions are good, but i am cheap.
Fuel and living expenses are through the roof and i just cant justify forking out money for things that i know i can get for free.

Oh don't look at me like that Your all the same.

Quick question,

Book store sells a book i might like for $35.00
Ebay stocks same book brand new for $15.00

Which store seems more appropriate to make purchase from?

( And stores wonder why they are lacking in sales and going out of business )

NOW

I could get the Book on Ebay for 15.00
Could also download for free off the internet

Which place seems more appropriate now.

Its just being smart about the money you spend.
That and being a cheap piece of cr#p like myself lol:

I always loved those ads at the start of DVDs.
The ones that said you wouldn't steal a car, you wouldn't steal this or that? SO WHY DVDs

Well Mr. stupid DVD, i would steal a car and all those other things, if by stealing you meant make an exact replica of it for free and knowingly get away with it i would absolutely do that.

Originally posted by blupblup

Originally posted by RSF77
You want an example of artistic theft, watch the show "Wipeout" then watch "Ninja Warrior", I don't see Japanese companies filing any butthurt applications over it, do you? That is theft, so what is being done about it? Or does that only apply to people providing and downloading stuff in the privacy of their homes?

Indeed.

Or watch Kimba the White Lion (AKA Jungle Emperor) and then watch Disney's The Lion King

Or watch Nadia: Secret of Blue Water and then watch Disney's Atlantis: Lost Empire.

Or many other Disney/Animee rip-offs.


This kinda stuff goes on all the time.

And yes, Apparently it only counts when individuals do it and make no money from it.
When huge corporations do it and make millions (Billions) it's fine.

edit on 20/1/12 by blupblup because: (no reason given)

This sort of thing has been going on for decades.

The Seven Samurai => The Magnificent Seven

Hollywood remakes of international movies / series / cartoons are all piracy.

If you payed for a movie on Beta you had to re-buy it on VHS and re-buy it on DVD.
The DVD is MINE, I bought it. If I want to lend it to my mate I can.

The proof is in the money trail! The big five profits keep growing year in and year out. They are never satisfied. At the same time they provide us with junk. Most of the ploys from episodes of Voyage to the Bottom of the Sea ended up in Star Trek / Star Gate / (insert name of TV series). Hell, half of Voyage to the Bottom of the Sea came from Marine Boy!

If you put us in gaol / jail then put the big bastards right next to me.

P

The idiots that have shut down mega upload don't understand that there are # ton of blogs, hidden communities on a few social networks, and other areas where people are uploading books, movies, porn, magazines, etc etc every single day, every hour.

They may be able to shut down a hand full, but they can't get them all. That's just a fact. When they realize they can't get them all..... then what?

Originally posted by Thunder heart woman

You take away napster, people are like.. meh. Ok. Kinda mad. Oh well. Go on to bear share or soulseek.
Take away megaupload, well.. people are like.... NOW I'm mad.

Take away all the internet.... there will be some crazy people then.....

If they take away internet, they won't have to worry about Iran or any other foreign nation starting WW3.
I will band together with all my nerd friends with 0 combat experience and start the thing myself.

here is a nice documentary on the copy write law

As much as I should hate Anonymous and now that they aren't as good as they seem I can't help but absolutely love them and this story. This is the sort of action that should've been taken since SOPA/PIPA was even proposed.
Truly a great day to be alive to see that there are still people out there who believe in truth , justice and the america way. America was founded on freedom and shutting down Megavideo/Upload is clearly infringing on said freedom.

viva la revolucion!

Folks,

Look at the bigger picture, what is really going on here and who is driving all of this.

I have worked in the field of IT and Internet related technologies for almost 20 years and in that time I have seen a transition from one technology to another.

Along with this I have also seen peoples attitudes change, both the consumer and the service provider and this in turn has had a wider affect on things like what we watch, we read and we consume (internet, gaming, social etc).

The internet was the wild west of the digital frontier for quite some time, new, full of opportunities but also full of danger. The internet created some giants, but also killed some off and in recent times we have seen a gradual paradigm shift in the way business is done and who is doing it.

This who event, SOPA etc and the many more crackdowns that will be coming over the horizon have been fuelled and funded by the very companies the internet created (as well as those outside corporates who wanted a slice of the internet pie).

However the internet also created the free trade model, free trading of good but also information and ideas - this is dangerous for many of these vultures and I can bet the first group on my imaginary list would be new publications.

News providers are being hung out to dry, because no one wants to have crap funnelled down a pipe into their brain, users are more likely to do their own research and use several different providers to get a better picture. However the danger here being that with all the freedom the internet provides, it also leaves people to make uninformed decisions which can be dangerous.

So now you have start up companies doing well on the internet, the lone bedroom CEO's to the small sized traders making better profit because they don't have to do back flips and use a large corporate service provider (who has way too many services and too wide a charging model). But add to this the new sensation, independent film makers, artists and service providers and you have upset the hornets nest (that being the large mega corporations like Hollywood etc).

These parasitic corporations only see one thing, profit and right now, the way the internet is they are losing a great deal of money (or at least the think they are), believing that because the internet is uncontrolled a pattern cannot be applied to it and thus no viable profit stream can be exploited.

This is why you are seeing the likes of SOPA etc now, it is not an invention of the government but rather the very companies whose services you are using right now. I wouldn't be surprised if half the organisations out there protesting the SOPA bill are actually partially to blame because at some level they support it.

The real powers behind this sudden crackdown of the internet are the big corporations. They believe they cannot make a profit unless the internet is reworked and secure so that it becomes something akin to a Cable/Sky+ satellite service where THEY decide what information you can have, not the other way around.

I will not be surprised if in the future, to host a website you will need some kind of license and pay an extortionate cost to provider a service to the public - mark my words.

We are in essence going full circle with the internet but we the consumers are also to blame for this. Our insatiable appetite for technology and information has led us to this.

The corporations need to make us profitable and the only way to do that now is to destroy the internet and make a new "inter-net" that will provide high quality, high bandwidth services at a cost to subscribers.

And that is the bottom line folks, that is certain technology has been dragging along at a snails pace while others have raced on, because the infrastructure wasn't there to allow this type of hostile take over to take pace. Now the vendors and service providers can hold the public to ransom by simply stating: "if you want to receive a high quality service you will need to pay".

Hang on that sounds familiar right? It is and it isn't.

Yes we pay for services like the internet but what people need to realise is that services which we expect to be free, like being able to search, download content view streams will no longer be free but chargeable commodity. This model has been perfected in the online gaming arena, particularly the new batch of MMORPG's that offer a free game but then charge you for services (where the real money is).

Corporations are no longer making money on the internet the way they used to. So they either need to change their working methods or change the environment they are working in and unfortunately for us they went with the latter, kn owing they can no longer sell products or services at a cost, they are doing the next thing which is to hijack the delivery medium and charge people to use the services.

Two words for this:

BORDER CONTROL

Sorry to those who don't have the patience to read this post

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Twenty years? And there are people out there doing way worse things who probably get what, ten, fifteen years? Jesus Christ, yet another lame attempt to control the society. I hope it doesn't last too long.