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Indictment Charges Megaupload Site With Piracy

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posted on Jan, 19 2012 @ 11:01 PM
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Sighhhh




posted on Jan, 19 2012 @ 11:09 PM
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Originally posted by Fractured.Facade
The copyright warnings have been displayed for a very long time... Ignorance is no excuse for the law.

If there is a product for sale, at a price, and people are taking that product for FREE, that is STEALING.

No matter how you justify it, or defend it, stealing is wrong, and inside of every human is constant awareness of this.

You know right and wrong!

Just because it is available in digital form, doesn't make stealing it okay.... Society is lost when people have no respect for property and rights to it.



If I'm taking it illegally from that same place where it's sold without paying then yes it is stealing.

But if I'm borrowing it from someone I know who's willing to lend for free, or even was kind enough to copy and give it to me for free, how is that stealing?

Corporates are greedy and all they care about is money.

Next thing they'll take people to court for sharing utensils fgs.



posted on Jan, 19 2012 @ 11:09 PM
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Okay, since this seems to be the original(?) thread for this topic, I'll re-post what I've already said in one of the other related threads..

Here's another take on why a lot of people choose to download content "illegally".

Say, for example, you're into music and/or movies from another country. The availability of such material is obviously an issue. Personally, I enjoy listening to music from Asia, and I also enjoy watching movies and TV series from Asia and Europe.

Yes, I am able to find CDs of specific artists/bands I like in Chinatown. However, because they are original and imported, they often cost twice (sometimes even triple) the price of a "regular" CD in K-Mart. I've even seen one of my favourite Japanese artist's SINGLES selling for AU$49, which is ridiculously out of my budget - I'd rather stock up on a few grocery items instead. Yes, I could go the "purchase online" route but, with the additional P&H and shipping costs, it hardly seems worth it.

The same goes for DVDs. If it weren't for the Internet, I wouldn't be able to watch some of my favourite movies and TV series AT ALL. They simply aren't available where I live. I'm more than willing to pay for an international movie that has been properly licensed in my country. In fact, a huge part of my DVD collection consists of licensed movies. However, what about the movies and TV series that haven't been licensed?

If you've ever purchased an original DVD from another country, you'll understand where I'm coming from with the following. Buying them in their original form simply isn't worth it (unless you are fluent in whatever language you are viewing) due to the lack of English subtitles or the presence of English subtitles that seem to have been put together by a 2-year-old, which can easily turn an enjoyable experience into a "WTH is going on?". Downloading such content from a reliable online source removes said issues thanks to the efforts of the many independent subtitling groups out there.

So, in conclusion, I do understand where these guys are coming from. But, having said that, they don't seem to understand (or even care) where some of us are coming from.



posted on Jan, 19 2012 @ 11:15 PM
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As soon as I can return an open movie to the store because it was terrible I'll agree with you. Until then I'll happily keep downloading away and then go purchase the actual blu-ray copy once I feel its worth the 20-30 dollars or more they are gonna charge me for it.


Amen brother, you just hit the nail on the head. You know what? I download plenty of movies and music online for free but guess what else I do? I purchase it on Blu Ray for movies or through a reputable music service in high quality when it is WORTH buying.

These days with Blu Rays costing 30 bucks a crack, games 60 bucks a pop and CDs still selling for 13 bucks I refuse to buy unless I actually like and want the product. Obviously there isn't a store on earth where you can buy and if it sucks, is not as advertised or just plain was not at all what you were led to believe it was you can take back. None, your stuck with it and a bunch of PR fat cats are somewhere laughing at you while drinking two thousand dollar bottles of wine and eating a block of six thousand dollar cheese.

Till there are stores that do, I pirate what I wan't and buy what very very products are actually worth it.



posted on Jan, 19 2012 @ 11:33 PM
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All very good posts. I will continue to pirate literally anything I care to, and continue to go to the cinema, live concerts and art exhibits to support the artists.



posted on Jan, 19 2012 @ 11:35 PM
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I wholeheartedly agree!

I have made many actual DVD purchases after "previewing" online first. If it weren't for the option to do so, I'm sure there are many movies in my collection I would've overlooked in the store..



posted on Jan, 19 2012 @ 11:46 PM
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They will fail because Megaupload is user based, that means users upload the so called "illegal" copies of movies, games, music etc.. They will fail miserably, they can't charged millions of people who upload these material, and they can't charge the companies who give people the service to upload. All these companies are legally protected, because they tell their users not to upload illegal material, that protects them from law, unless the law is targeting legal services.. No doubt, no American will every talk about freedom, after a decade of "freedom" rhetoric.



posted on Jan, 19 2012 @ 11:49 PM
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The fact that United States Federal agents are basically acting on behalf of massive corporations makes me wonder who's really on the inside calling the shots.



posted on Jan, 19 2012 @ 11:49 PM
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Originally posted by Helious
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As soon as I can return an open movie to the store because it was terrible I'll agree with you. Until then I'll happily keep downloading away and then go purchase the actual blu-ray copy once I feel its worth the 20-30 dollars or more they are gonna charge me for it.


Amen brother, you just hit the nail on the head. You know what? I download plenty of movies and music online for free but guess what else I do? I purchase it on Blu Ray for movies or through a reputable music service in high quality when it is WORTH buying.

These days with Blu Rays costing 30 bucks a crack, games 60 bucks a pop and CDs still selling for 13 bucks I refuse to buy unless I actually like and want the product. Obviously there isn't a store on earth where you can buy and if it sucks, is not as advertised or just plain was not at all what you were led to believe it was you can take back. None, your stuck with it and a bunch of PR fat cats are somewhere laughing at you while drinking two thousand dollar bottles of wine and eating a block of six thousand dollar cheese.

Till there are stores that do, I pirate what I wan't and buy what very very products are actually worth it.


I was thinking the same exact thing earlier lol. I buy plenty of actual copies of Blu-Rays when they aren't total garbage and I know Ill enjoy them. Like you guys said, Let me buy then return the item or hell even exchange one and I'll never watch another movie online again. Of course they could never allow that to happen because everyone would return the garbage.



posted on Jan, 19 2012 @ 11:52 PM
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You know what's really disturbing that none of you caught? The piracy of OUR very lives, freedoms, liberties and rights. Not only that, in retrospect the complaint issued mirrors how OUR lives are recorded, reproduced, shared, and maliciously used for marketing, profiling and is commoditized on the stock market. Why can't we EVER get OUR heads out of OUR collective asses and FIGHT back?
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posted on Jan, 19 2012 @ 11:59 PM
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Originally posted by heyitsphil
The fact that United States Federal agents are basically acting on behalf of massive corporations makes me wonder who's really on the inside calling the shots.



Exactly. The only reason we have a government is to enforce the wishes of the power elite.



posted on Jan, 20 2012 @ 12:22 AM
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Well that sucks. So is this their way of telling us our word means nothing? I wonder how many more of our few remaining rights will they take away until we finally snap...



posted on Jan, 20 2012 @ 12:23 AM
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What if they were to bring in a law that the site owner is responsible for all the content uploaded by its customers who are not traceable or are outside the jurisdiction of the country?

This would mean websites can no longer permit unverified membership. They may choose aliases to hide their identity online, but cannot hide their identity from the site owner. If a particular member is seen violating some laws through the content hosted by the member, the violator can be identified and charged as per the provisions of the law. At the moment if there is a violation, the only traceable violator is the owner of the site and not the actual violator.



posted on Jan, 20 2012 @ 12:25 AM
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Originally posted by DisplayName
Megaporn down....them's fighting words.

I mean....if I were into that sort of thing.


Yea, that's the last straw when they try and take away our porn.

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Yea, but Wikipedia really does provide an unprecedented and rather clean source for information, they really do provide a service to all of humanity. I don't get anything from watching Godzilla 5, the greedy American rip off of a Japanese classic.

Wikipedia has done a lot for this wretched species IMHO, and also me personally.
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posted on Jan, 20 2012 @ 12:59 AM
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costing copyright holders more than $500 million in lost revenue from pirated films and other content.



Assumptions is the mother of all retardation to think people would have paid for whatever they downloaded from there.



posted on Jan, 20 2012 @ 01:26 AM
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I hear a lot of talk about access to content that already exists....what about the impact that SOPA/PIPA and anything else of a similar stripe would have on ORIGINAL content?
I am in the process of writing a screenplay that would be streamed over my own website....the deal is this:
For all intents and purposes, EVERY personal computer has the potential to be, in miniature, it's own movie studio and/or and recording studio.
On the internet millions of people have the ability to potentially create their own content (good, bad or otherwise)and not have their creative process be infringed upon as is routinely done in Hollywood and the record industry. I mean heck, you don't even have to have an actual set anymore, not with the special f/x and virtual scenery stuff.
There are no gatekeepers and I think the aforementioned realize this and I think it scares the crap out of them. I believe this is what SOPA/PIPA (and the like ) are really all about.
Like the atom bomb, the genie here is out of the bottle - when people start getting truly sick of the drivel the movie studios/record companies keep putting out, people will go to the net to either view/listen to someone else's original stuff or create thier own.



posted on Jan, 20 2012 @ 01:28 AM
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Originally posted by boncho

Indictment Charges Megaupload Site With Piracy


www.nytimes.com

McLEAN, Va. — Federal prosecutors in Virginia say they have shut down one of the world’s largest Internet file-sharing sites, Megaupload.com, and charged its founder and others with violating piracy laws.

An indictment accuses the company of costing copyright holders more than $500 million in lost revenue from pirated films and other content. The indictment was unsealed Thursday, one day after Web sites shut down in protest of two Congressional proposals intended to thwart the online piracy of copyrighted movies and TV programs.
(visit the link for the full news article)


Related News Links:
www.nytimes.com
www.3news.co.nz

Wow the governments undying quest for control of the internet is absolutely sick.

Where are these lawsuits against the big banks that have stolen trillions?



posted on Jan, 20 2012 @ 01:34 AM
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Originally posted by boncho

Originally posted by Fractured.Facade
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Ah, so they facilitated criminal activity, I suppose that too is okay eh?



It was not their official policy to facilitate criminal activity (In fact, it was against their t&c and they addressed orders to remove materials). Under your logic, American Airlines could be held responsible for 9/11.


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OMG Boncho!

This is by far the best single line point I've ever heard on this website.

Well done, sir. Well done.



posted on Jan, 20 2012 @ 01:47 AM
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No way! I like Megaupload!

They took it down, now they have really crossed the line, and they will pay for taking down one of my favorite sites.

Next time they visit my home, the only thing that will be waiting for them is 200 airsoft BBs loaded into a high-powered AEG model FS 2000.

If they take down another site that I like such as (nolink), then the are deep into enemy territory and I will help bring down the thunder on them.



posted on Jan, 20 2012 @ 01:58 AM
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Originally posted by ClydeFrog42
This is bad news for me. then again, theres always mediafire, rapidshare....









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