Originally posted by Praetorius
reply to post by colbe
How can you speak of implantation? Implantation means conception has taken place, there is already a new human person with a soul.
That's why contraception is an intrinsic evil.
You're not paying attention, friend - I'm speaking of implantation because if a woman IS ovulating, and an egg IS fertilized, and then does
not implant (as happens quite frequently, naturally) - are you saying God is flushing away that "new human person with a soul"?
And you're taking a short-sighted view of the matter, as Paul explained in the debate tonight directly - until the morality of the nation changes,
the laws aren't likely to change either. Continuing to insist on a federal change and push candidates who do the same will only continue to result
in failure, whereas supporting legislation and someone with Paul's views is more likely to result in this issue being returned back to the states,
effectively overturning Roe v. Wade, and letting the people have a more-likely-to-succeed chance of addressing this with their state governments to
actually get results.
It wasn't contraception that led to the legalization of abortion, it was the morality and thought process of the people. And laws won't
change that. You're just going about it wrong, even if your heart's in the right place.
I will continue to disagree with the implication you make when you state that life begins at conception - yes, a process begins, but I see no
theological, biological, or simple common-sense argument to support the claim that God gives a soul to something he so often allows to pass out of the
body and die naturally. To say otherwise makes him a greater abortion supporter than anyone else, over the span of all human history.
It's simply a silly argument, and leads people to behave in irrational ways on addressing the issue fairly or efficiently.
It's God's teaching forever. He decides life and death not us, He created you and and He decides when He will take you home, the littlest, most
innocent home to Him too. A miscarriage is God's action. Contraception is a selfish act for pleasure. Sex is for marriage and procreation,
both.
You repeat the same thing not understanding what it is...a "fertilized egg." Life begins at conception.
You do "see" though, a change of "morality", yes, the times, accepting grave sin as not being a sin at all now!
What are you talking about friend, "no evidence?" Have you ever seen a ultrasound and the modern fetal photography the time lapsed? It's been
divinely revealed, at the moment of fertilization, there is a new human person with a body and a soul. "I knew you before you were born" and
"I knit you in your mother's womb" such loving verses from Scripture.
Contraception
causes an abortion of a fertilized egg! You reject this
because most of the world today want to deny life and take the pleasure of the act.
Are you a man, may I ask? You don't have to say. People like anonymity.
This isn't opinion, it's a revealed Truth for 2000 years Remember our discussion when the Great Warning takes place.
thanks for you very civil replies,
colbe