reply to post by luxordelphi
Oh, my.....would you please read and understand the links you provide first, before posting comments about them that are incorrect, instead of just
skimming them and misunderstanding the science and the facts? It is against ATS T&Cs to knowingly post false or misleading information, or to
misrepresent the facts.
HAARP frequencies + nano particles in the atmosphere...
Your link to the NASA experiments to sent rockets into....get this.....into
space, to altitudes of over 50 miles up!
This has nothing, zero, nada, zilch to do with the OP's observance of of iridescent clouds that are only a few miles above the ground. It has
NOTHING to do with HAARP.
('HAARP' has become the "Poster Boy" of the most idiotic claims, it is a catch-all and easy to "blame", for those who know absolutely
nothing about it, and don't even bother to learn the facts.....just parrot the ridiculous conspiracy ferar mongers, over and over).
From
your link:
The clouds are intended to simulate naturally-occurring phenomena called noctilucent clouds, which are the highest clouds in the
atmosphere.
“This is really essentially at the boundary of space,” said Wayne Scales, a scientist at Virginia Tech who will use computer
models to study the physics of the artificial dust cloud as it’s released. “Nothing like this has been done before and that’s why everybody’s
really excited about it.”
(Note my emphasis).
Here is the link to the
Noctilucent Clouds that were mentioned in the
snippet above, first line.
The noctilucent or "night-shining" clouds are at an altitude of 47 to 53 miles (76 to 85 km), where meteors and bright aurora lights are not
uncommon and the atmosphere gives way to the blackness of space. The clouds remain a scientifically baffling phenomenon more than 120 years after
their discovery.
Also in your post (not added here) you again tried to conflate HAARP and the "grids". Grid lines of absolutely normal and benign contrails, formed by
jets crossing paths because they are flying on different headings. They aren't even that extensive, when considered as a percentage of the ENTIRE
Earth's surface area. They are insignificant in that regard. They are not even that common, certainly not a daily occurrence.
HAARP has NO influence on the atmosphere at altitudes where contrails reside....a mere 6 to 8 miles or so above the surface. HAARP is designed to
interact with the
ionosphere!!
The ionosphere (here's another link about it, and about HAARP:
*source*) starts, as you see
(and has been mentioned dozens of times already, in other threads) at an indeterminate altitude, but an average of 50 miles (80 km) or so:
At heights of 80 km (50 miles), the gas is so thin that free electrons can exist for short periods of time before they are captured by a nearby
positive ion. The existence of charged particles at this altitude and above, signals the beginning of the ionosphere a region having the properties of
a gas and of a plasma. The ionosphere is indicated by the light green shading in the figure to the left.
Please try to make the effort to add this information to the level of scientific knowledge and understanding that seems to be lacking so tragically in
many segments of our society.........
The clouds referred to by the OP were not
"noctilucent" (**) types.
(**)
They are normally too faint to be seen, and are visible only when illuminated by sunlight from below the horizon while the lower layers of the
atmosphere are in the Earth's shadow.
The photos by the OP clearly show clouds in the atmosphere, and specifically in the troposphere.
What are photographed in the OP are examples of
iridescence.
....most often observed in altocumulus, cirrocumulus and lenticular clouds, and very rarely in Cirrus clouds.
Iridescent clouds are a diffraction phenomenon cause by small water droplets or small ice crystals individually scattering light.
edit on Fri 20 January 2012 by ProudBird because: (no reason given)
