I heard it was a hyena some mad man trained. The people of that time didnt know what a hyena was and would totally be a werewolf to them.
The Beast Of Gevaudan - History's most terrifying and well-documented cryptid, page 3
reply posted on 20-1-2012 @ 01:06 AM by jimbo999
Originally posted by LucidDreamer85
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That looks like a bear wolf.
Which is both awesome and terrifying at the same time.
Yes - a scary thought huh? I assume you mean the first pic n the OP?
This creature actually existed at one point in time. Not something you'd want to run into on a dark night...
reply posted on 20-1-2012 @ 01:22 AM by jimbo999
Originally posted by korathin
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Maybe it is a cross between a female wolf and a feral male St. Bernard? It is easy to imagine a lone female wolf sticking close to a St Bernard. And wolves did roam Europe in those day's..
Yes, there certainly were wolves in France in that period. But this was not a wolf from all accounts. Maybe it was some kind of wolf-hybrid - but they usually are smaller than wolves - not larger. St. Bernards are quite small compared a full grown wolf. Timber wolves in my area have paws almost as big as a man's head!! Really!
reply posted on 20-1-2012 @ 06:33 AM by mnmcandiez
reply to post by jimbo999
And there's a buncha reports of alien abductions, humans being witches, religious miracles, all claimed by humans. None which are validated of to having any reality behind them.
If anything it was probably a really big bear or giant boar.
And there's a buncha reports of alien abductions, humans being witches, religious miracles, all claimed by humans. None which are validated of to having any reality behind them.
If anything it was probably a really big bear or giant boar.
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reply posted on 23-1-2012 @ 09:08 PM by blocula
The beast of gevaudan attacked 210 humans,113 victims died and 98 were devoured.The attacks were so frequent and brutal that many believed the
creature to be a demonic being sent by god as punishment,while others thought it was a loup-garou,a werewolf...
I saw a documentary last year that more or less proved that this beast was actually an escaped hyena,or even two of them,a male and female,that were brought back on a sailing ship by someone from africa and then it or they escaped and were roaming the countryside killing and eating for survival...
Hyenas are very strong and savage and are not small,like some people might think they are and at least 99% of people back then,1764-1767,would have not known what a hyena was or what one looked like either and they would have described it as some kind of monster...
Hyenas are formidable hunters and in packs can take down animals as large as zebras.They are also talented scavengers and have no fear when protecting a kill from other animals,even lions.Their jaws have bone-crunching strength and their digestive systems are adapted to digest bone and skin,animal parts that other predators cannot handle.The largest species of hyena is the spotted hyena,which grows up to 6.5 ft long including tail,stand 3 ft tall and weighs between 110-200 pounds...
Hyenas are actually very powerful predators and they often prey on humans in Africa and some parts of Asia.A man eating hyena terrorized Malawi quite recently,forcing hundreds of people to leave their villages.Just like the beast of Gevauden,hyenas are noted for their formidable teeth and strong odor and they are also bigger and more powerful than average wolves...Top 10 worst maneaters in history > listverse.com...
I saw a documentary last year that more or less proved that this beast was actually an escaped hyena,or even two of them,a male and female,that were brought back on a sailing ship by someone from africa and then it or they escaped and were roaming the countryside killing and eating for survival...
Hyenas are very strong and savage and are not small,like some people might think they are and at least 99% of people back then,1764-1767,would have not known what a hyena was or what one looked like either and they would have described it as some kind of monster...
Hyenas are formidable hunters and in packs can take down animals as large as zebras.They are also talented scavengers and have no fear when protecting a kill from other animals,even lions.Their jaws have bone-crunching strength and their digestive systems are adapted to digest bone and skin,animal parts that other predators cannot handle.The largest species of hyena is the spotted hyena,which grows up to 6.5 ft long including tail,stand 3 ft tall and weighs between 110-200 pounds...
Hyenas are actually very powerful predators and they often prey on humans in Africa and some parts of Asia.A man eating hyena terrorized Malawi quite recently,forcing hundreds of people to leave their villages.Just like the beast of Gevauden,hyenas are noted for their formidable teeth and strong odor and they are also bigger and more powerful than average wolves...Top 10 worst maneaters in history > listverse.com...
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reply posted on 23-1-2012 @ 10:44 PM by SheeplFlavoredAgain
reply to post by jimbo999
After reading through all the proposals on this thread I think the mesonychid one fits the historical descriptions best and makes more sense than the idea it was a human serial killer misidentified by superstitious ignorant peasants in all of the cases. The odd feet are the sticking point that shoots the serial killer angle out for me personally, for some of the accounts. I think its propensity to go after women and children is just indicative of even modern predators' instinct to go for the weakest, easiest kill. Modern animals sometimes eat out softer organ meat which might also explain some of the victims looking relatively intact but missing blood and entrails. I can't say all the cases would have the same culprit, though. There are some accounts about how the clothes were removed that make me think some were copycat attacks by a deranged pervert after all.
Fascinating. It's nice to return to this section of the forum and find such interesting creatures to contemplate.
After reading through all the proposals on this thread I think the mesonychid one fits the historical descriptions best and makes more sense than the idea it was a human serial killer misidentified by superstitious ignorant peasants in all of the cases. The odd feet are the sticking point that shoots the serial killer angle out for me personally, for some of the accounts. I think its propensity to go after women and children is just indicative of even modern predators' instinct to go for the weakest, easiest kill. Modern animals sometimes eat out softer organ meat which might also explain some of the victims looking relatively intact but missing blood and entrails. I can't say all the cases would have the same culprit, though. There are some accounts about how the clothes were removed that make me think some were copycat attacks by a deranged pervert after all.
Fascinating. It's nice to return to this section of the forum and find such interesting creatures to contemplate.
reply posted on 23-1-2012 @ 10:54 PM by SheeplFlavoredAgain
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Oh goodness I probably shouldn't post this because I adore my sister in law and her dog, but there was one day those two came back from a walk looking the very embodiment of this figurine! My sister-in-law was really mad at the dog who had forgotten her obedience training and pulled my sis through a nasty weedy part of the park. So, she scolded the dog on the walk back and by the time they got back to the house, covered in burrs and mud, they were both clearly cheesed off. This sculpture reminds me so much of the way those two looked that day!
Oh goodness I probably shouldn't post this because I adore my sister in law and her dog, but there was one day those two came back from a walk looking the very embodiment of this figurine! My sister-in-law was really mad at the dog who had forgotten her obedience training and pulled my sis through a nasty weedy part of the park. So, she scolded the dog on the walk back and by the time they got back to the house, covered in burrs and mud, they were both clearly cheesed off. This sculpture reminds me so much of the way those two looked that day!
reply posted on 25-1-2012 @ 02:56 AM by jimbo999
Originally posted by blocula
The beast of gevaudan attacked 210 humans,113 victims died and 98 were devoured.The attacks were so frequent and brutal that many believed the creature to be a demonic being sent by god as punishment,while others thought it was a loup-garou,a werewolf...
I saw a documentary last year that more or less proved that this beast was actually an escaped hyena,or even two of them,a male and female,that were brought back on a sailing ship by someone from africa and then it or they escaped and were roaming the countryside killing and eating for survival...
Hyenas are very strong and savage and are not small,like some people might think they are and at least 99% of people back then,1764-1767,would have not known what a hyena was or what one looked like either and they would have described it as some kind of monster...
Hyenas are formidable hunters and in packs can take down animals as large as zebras.They are also talented scavengers and have no fear when protecting a kill from other animals,even lions.Their jaws have bone-crunching strength and their digestive systems are adapted to digest bone and skin,animal parts that other predators cannot handle.The largest species of hyena is the spotted hyena,which grows up to 6.5 ft long including tail,stand 3 ft tall and weighs between 110-200 pounds...
Hyenas are actually very powerful predators and they often prey on humans in Africa and some parts of Asia.A man eating hyena terrorized Malawi quite recently,forcing hundreds of people to leave their villages.Just like the beast of Gevauden,hyenas are noted for their formidable teeth and strong odor and they are also bigger and more powerful than average wolves...Top 10 worst maneaters in history > listverse.com...
edit on 23-1-2012 by blocula because: (no reason given)
Interesting link - thanks! I still have some doubts about the Hyena theory; as even a Hyena cannot reach the size of a cow or horse, as the Beast was reported to be. But you never know... It should be pointed out that the conclusion to the piece on The Beast is incorrect, as according to the French sources, the Beast kept on killing after our hero at the end 'killed' it with his silver bullet. In fact the attacks went on in various regions of rural France for several hundred years!
Cheers.
reply posted on 25-1-2012 @ 03:03 AM by jimbo999
reply to post by SheeplFlavoredAgain
Thanks for the compliments Sheep. Appreciated. Like you I find the Mesonychid fits the descriptions like a glove. Still, it a tough one to buy - but who knows? Is it possible that pockets of these creatures survived into the 17th century in Europe? I have no idea. I wonder if the fossil record shows any Mesonychid bones in the European region? t would be interesting to know... Those witness descriptions of hooves just don't seem to add up otherwise.
Thanks for the compliments Sheep. Appreciated. Like you I find the Mesonychid fits the descriptions like a glove. Still, it a tough one to buy - but who knows? Is it possible that pockets of these creatures survived into the 17th century in Europe? I have no idea. I wonder if the fossil record shows any Mesonychid bones in the European region? t would be interesting to know... Those witness descriptions of hooves just don't seem to add up otherwise.
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reply posted on 25-1-2012 @ 07:10 AM by blocula
Originally posted by jimbo999I would imagine that the more people this thing,or things killed,the more fear was spread,the bigger it or they would have gotten in peoples terrified minds,the more people it or they killed the more larger than life it or they would have became...
Originally posted by blocula
The beast of gevaudan attacked 210 humans,113 victims died and 98 were devoured.The attacks were so frequent and brutal that many believed the creature to be a demonic being sent by god as punishment,while others thought it was a loup-garou,a werewolf...
I saw a documentary last year that more or less proved that this beast was actually an escaped hyena,or even two of them,a male and female,that were brought back on a sailing ship by someone from africa and then it or they escaped and were roaming the countryside killing and eating for survival...
Hyenas are very strong and savage and are not small,like some people might think they are and at least 99% of people back then,1764-1767,would have not known what a hyena was or what one looked like either and they would have described it as some kind of monster...
Hyenas are formidable hunters and in packs can take down animals as large as zebras.They are also talented scavengers and have no fear when protecting a kill from other animals,even lions.Their jaws have bone-crunching strength and their digestive systems are adapted to digest bone and skin,animal parts that other predators cannot handle.The largest species of hyena is the spotted hyena,which grows up to 6.5 ft long including tail,stand 3 ft tall and weighs between 110-200 pounds...
Hyenas are actually very powerful predators and they often prey on humans in Africa and some parts of Asia.A man eating hyena terrorized Malawi quite recently,forcing hundreds of people to leave their villages.Just like the beast of Gevauden,hyenas are noted for their formidable teeth and strong odor and they are also bigger and more powerful than average wolves...Top 10 worst maneaters in history > listverse.com...
edit on 23-1-2012 by blocula because: (no reason given)
Interesting link - thanks! I still have some doubts about the Hyena theory; as even a Hyena cannot reach the size of a cow or horse, as the Beast was reported to be. But you never know...
A hyena can get up to 6.5 feet long,stand 3 feet tall and weigh 200 pounds,as big as and perhaps larger than any wolf and hyenas are designed to crush and digest bones,are quite fearless and savage.
The hyena is neither canine nor feline, in fact it is something in between and is the second largest carnivore to the lion in africa and there are recorded incidents of peoples feet being severed by the exceptionally powerful jaws and sharp teeth of the hyena in the night and attacks on sleeping tourists. It is no myth that some people have lost their faces to this extraordinary animal > www.ecademy.com...
A five year old boy is among half a dozen people who have been killed by hyenas in Malawi since Christmas...
The attacks have spread fear among the local population around the city of Blantyre, Malawi's commercial centre...
The government has sent rangers to the area to track down the animals, whose aggressive behaviour has puzzled wildlife experts...Man Eating Hyenas > news.bbc.co.uk...
Sounds awfully similar,doesnt it?
Imo,next to no one back then during the mid 1700's across the french countryside would have even known what a hyena was,or what one looked like...Hmmmm?
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reply posted on 25-1-2012 @ 02:22 PM by jimbo999
Originally posted by blocula
Originally posted by jimbo999I would imagine that the more people this thing,or things killed,the more fear was spread,the bigger it or they would have gotten in peoples terrified minds,the more people it or they killed the more larger than life it or they would have became...
Originally posted by blocula
The beast of gevaudan attacked 210 humans,113 victims died and 98 were devoured.The attacks were so frequent and brutal that many believed the creature to be a demonic being sent by god as punishment,while others thought it was a loup-garou,a werewolf...
I saw a documentary last year that more or less proved that this beast was actually an escaped hyena,or even two of them,a male and female,that were brought back on a sailing ship by someone from africa and then it or they escaped and were roaming the countryside killing and eating for survival...
Hyenas are very strong and savage and are not small,like some people might think they are and at least 99% of people back then,1764-1767,would have not known what a hyena was or what one looked like either and they would have described it as some kind of monster...
Hyenas are formidable hunters and in packs can take down animals as large as zebras.They are also talented scavengers and have no fear when protecting a kill from other animals,even lions.Their jaws have bone-crunching strength and their digestive systems are adapted to digest bone and skin,animal parts that other predators cannot handle.The largest species of hyena is the spotted hyena,which grows up to 6.5 ft long including tail,stand 3 ft tall and weighs between 110-200 pounds...
Hyenas are actually very powerful predators and they often prey on humans in Africa and some parts of Asia.A man eating hyena terrorized Malawi quite recently,forcing hundreds of people to leave their villages.Just like the beast of Gevauden,hyenas are noted for their formidable teeth and strong odor and they are also bigger and more powerful than average wolves...Top 10 worst maneaters in history > listverse.com...
edit on 23-1-2012 by blocula because: (no reason given)
Interesting link - thanks! I still have some doubts about the Hyena theory; as even a Hyena cannot reach the size of a cow or horse, as the Beast was reported to be. But you never know...
A hyena can get up to 6.5 feet long,stand 3 feet tall and weigh 200 pounds,as big as and perhaps larger than any wolf and hyenas are designed to crush and digest bones,are quite fearless and savage.
The hyena is neither canine nor feline, in fact it is something in between and is the second largest carnivore to the lion in africa and there are recorded incidents of peoples feet being severed by the exceptionally powerful jaws and sharp teeth of the hyena in the night and attacks on sleeping tourists. It is no myth that some people have lost their faces to this extraordinary animal > www.ecademy.com...
A five year old boy is among half a dozen people who have been killed by hyenas in Malawi since Christmas...
The attacks have spread fear among the local population around the city of Blantyre, Malawi's commercial centre...
The government has sent rangers to the area to track down the animals, whose aggressive behaviour has puzzled wildlife experts...Man Eating Hyenas > news.bbc.co.uk...
Sounds awfully similar,doesnt it?
Imo,next to no one back then during the mid 1700's across the french countryside would have even known what a hyena was,or what one looked like...Hmmmm?edit on 25-1-2012 by blocula because: (no reason given)
I don't doubt your info at all. And I imagine a Hyena in the wild would be a pretty scary proposition. However, to the best of my knowledge, Hyenas don't reach horse-sized proportions, and don't have cloven hoofs. Until we can account for these issues, the mystery still remains MO. If only one ot two witnesses reported these details, I'd be inclined to chalk it down to imagination, but many witnesses report these strange features.
reply posted on 25-1-2012 @ 05:32 PM by blocula
reply to post by jimbo999
One very important factor that we must keep in mind about the people of france concerning this beast.Is the fact that not so many years earlier from when this thing began killing people,there had been many thousands of people over an extended period of time who were accused of being werewolves.People who were then put on trial and many of them were convicted and hundreds,probably even thousands of them were executed.So theres no doubt that paranoia and superstitions about werewolves were already rampant and widespread in france and those fears and memories of those trials surely added to the larger than life stature that this beast attained...
One very important factor that we must keep in mind about the people of france concerning this beast.Is the fact that not so many years earlier from when this thing began killing people,there had been many thousands of people over an extended period of time who were accused of being werewolves.People who were then put on trial and many of them were convicted and hundreds,probably even thousands of them were executed.So theres no doubt that paranoia and superstitions about werewolves were already rampant and widespread in france and those fears and memories of those trials surely added to the larger than life stature that this beast attained...
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