Mandatory participation in experimental vaccine trials, page
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reply posted on 18-1-2012 @ 04:47 PM by Inquisitive1
reply to post by reddwhite


Well, After reading this tid-bit from your source:


A more palatable and realistic option is a policy of “mandated choice.” In this case individuals would be required by law to state in advance their willingness to participate in vaccine trials


I think: How very inconvenient, but otherwise not breaching my power to decline.. Or so it seems for the moment.
If that changes, Naturally my opinion would change..


reply posted on 18-1-2012 @ 04:49 PM by LongbottomLeaf
reply to post by reddwhite



If they are so into vaccines and crap they can go ahead and test it on themselves and their children. Try and force me to do something and you will not like what happens. I'm not a bad ass I just run out of ideas and get desperate very easily desperate people don't think rationally.



reply posted on 18-1-2012 @ 05:47 PM by reddwhite
reply to post by candcantiques



The worst part, all doctors take the hypocratic oath, the firs line of he oath is " I will do no harm"

I never saw the line where it says unless it is for what I think is the greatest good.


reply posted on 18-1-2012 @ 08:03 PM by texas thinker
reply to post by snowspirit



Amendment IV

The right of the people to be secure in their persons, houses, papers, and effects, against unreasonable searches and seizures, shall not be violated, and no warrants shall issue, but upon probable cause, supported by oath or affirmation, and particularly describing the place to be searched, and the persons or things to be seized.

I think this law might cover it...it's the fourth amendment to the Constitution of these great United States of America as envisioned and written by our founders that wished to secure us from just such "mandantory" requirements!



reply posted on 18-1-2012 @ 11:28 PM by charles1952
reply to post by reddwhite


It's taken me a while, but I am learning that headlines and Opening Posts are often sensationalized to get a discussion going. That's what seems to have happened here.
The American Medical Association recomends compulsory participation in experimental vaccine trials " for the greater good" of society.
The AMA has not made such a recommendation. That was just one of several options discussed in an opinion piece. That option was not the one that the article concluded with, as inquisitive1 pointed out in the second post of this thread.

So, set aside the OP and headline as having misread the piece, what was in it? A discussion on various ideas to make sure there are enough human subjects to test vaccines.

Giving money as an incentive is tough, either the researchers give too much or too little. There is a discussion of mandatory participation, with both the pros and the cons being presented. It's possible that this might be read to mean that in the case of a dire emergency, a killer disease spreading rapidly with little time to stop it, mandatory participation might be the solution. But that's not what the article is recommending.

The article suggests two things, consideration of a plan to have people declare whether or not they want to volunteer, before volunteers are needed, and more education to reduce irrational fear of vaccines.

I'm sure the AMA would be pleased to get any suggestion on how to have an adequate supply of volunteers.
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