Iranian actress banned from homeland after naked magazine shoot

Iranian actress banned from homeland after naked magazine shoot

www.telegr aph.co.uk

An Iranian actress has been told she is no longer welcome in her homeland after she posed naked in a French news magazine as a symbolic protest against strictures on women.
The Paris-based actress left Iran last year in protest against restrictive Islamic codes that the Iranian cinema industry has to follow under Ahmadinejad's conservative cultural policies.
Now she said the government has sent a communication telling her not to travel back to her homeland.

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On Tuesday, Farahani announced that the Iranian culture ministry had informed her that she is no longer wlecome in her homeland.

"I was told by a Ministry of Culture and Islamic Guide official that Iran does not need any actors or artists. You may offer your artistic services somewhere else", Farahani was quoted as saying by the Daily Telegraph.

Well and people wonder why a country who stone their women to death and cut of their fingers off for going to school should not have an atomic bomb. I think its obvious...

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Sure iran could be beautiful. That doesnt mean the people running it are. Woman beaters.

Pics or it never happened
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reply to post by CountDrac

Well and people wonder why a country who stone their women to death and cut of their fingers off for going to school should not have an atomic bomb. I think its obvious...

Ignorant...

Who SHOULD have an atomic bomb? Why don't you just focus on the matter at hand about the artist, and leave the military and foreign policy dispute to experts, who seem to disagree with what you're implying?

It's OK for the US to have nukes, even though we're the only country that's ever actually used them against someone else? Our record is so much more pristine on all fronts than that of Iran?

God, I hate nonsensical and unrelated opining that takes extremely shortsighted and ill-informed views...

reply to post by Praetorius


Your answer just shows how ignorant and detached from reality you are.
Yes, giving a country that is governed by fanatic Islam, treats their own people like animals and don’t have separation between church and state is pure insanity.

Anyone who thinks otherwise is just stupid.

Here is a good explanation:

www.youtube.com...

reply to post by CountDrac
For some reason, you seem to be under the mistaken impression that this is my first rodeo and I've never heard all the relentless propaganda before...

I have, and I'm quite tired of it. Our Secretary of Defense Leon Panetta has admitted Iran is not building nukes and that continued diplomacy is called for, our nuclear energy experts have confirmed that Iran's rod enrichment has effectively nothing to do with any military capacity, multiple of our own National Intelligence Estimates have confirmed it is not a realistic possibility at this point, Israeli intelligence has confirmed that even if they WERE working towards such it is in a deterrent capacity against our continued mouth-breathing hostility and not one seeking attack capability, and yet the war drums keep beating - driving us closer and closer to yet another adventure into lunacy we cannot afford financially, militarily (for multiple reasons), or spiritually.

And you want to consider ME detached from reality? Yes, yes, I know the US government is the bastion of right and truth in the world, never having done any ill or possessing any of the same faults we see in others, and would never emphasize half-truths and flat-out lies to stimulate public opinion for their own purposes...

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Originally posted by CountDrac
reply to post by Praetorius

 

Your answer just shows how ignorant and detached from reality you are.
Yes, giving a country that is governed by fanatic Islam, treats their own people like animals and don’t have separation between church and state is pure insanity.

Anyone who thinks otherwise is just stupid.

Here is a good explanation:

www.youtube.com...

Without actually getting into all the logistics of Iran's nuclear capabilities. I do have to say that I was awe struck at the statement above in reference to the seperation of church and state. I find myself having to ask do you live in America? There is no such thing has seperation of church and state in America;what little seperation there was is growing smaller and smaller every day.

reply to post by Phantom28804


When priests start stoning women to death for witchcraft here in the US like they did in the Middle Ages ill agree with you.

But are you honestly trying to make an intelligent mature comparison between Iran, a religious Islamic regime who legally allows women to be stoned to death for adultery. To the US policy on religion, freedom of speech and separation between church and state.

I mean really???

reply to post by CountDrac

I don’t know where you get your information, maybe from ATS that’s why you have such delusional answers.

For clarity, that would be USA today, Bloomberg news, The Washington Times, The New Yorker, and various other outlets you can search for news on yourself...and I'm sure they likely cite or reference their sources directly for your further review.

Every high ranking government official in the US, including the Israelis and the EU have reached the conclusion Iran is building nuclear weapons Hence the sanctions put on Iran in the past year…

Ok, we'll start with SECDEF Panetta here on the 8th of this month, James Acton (a senior associate in the Nuclear Policy Program at the Carnegie Endowment for International Peace in Washington) here, Israeli Mossad chief Tamir Pardo, former Mossad chief Meir Dagan, and former military intelligence chief Zeevi Farkash here, discussion of the 2007 and 2011 NIEs here, and the IAEA has also providing no solid claim that Iran is working on the bomb, although they say they're conducting tests that could lean that way...which as the Israeli intelligence analysts agree, seems likely for deterrent purposes if verified and not entirely insensible to me (those ARE all separate links, by the way).

Now if you'll provide me references for all this confirmed information concluding Iran is building nukes, I'd appreciate it. Otherwise, you'd likely do well to realize that you're buying into inflated claims and hyped threats very much akin to the "ZOMG IRAQ'S GOT WMDS!!!!" fiasco.

Even here on ATS the Iranian supporters don’t deny Iran is building a nuclear weapon and question shifted to wether they have a right to build one…

I wouldn't say I'm an Iran supporter, as they do have some very bad habits - as does most everyone, to varying degrees - but I also believe in being fully informed, not jumping to conclusions, avoiding unnecessary and stupid actions that only make things worse, and staying true to my christian faith.

And to correct you, yes, myself and even others here do argue against the claim that Iran is building nukes, as there simply is NO consensus this is the case in the real world...even though I feel they'd honestly be fairly dumb in they aren't, with as aggressively as we and others are acting towards them. We tend to respect those with nuclear capabilities, and directly bully and invade those who don't, it sometimes seems...

What’s next you will tell me the world is Flat??
I’m sorry its plain Ignorance on your part. The fact that you say let experts make these decisions makes me think you are a housewife picking and choosing information from women’s magazines...

I've seen the argument of earth's flatness before, but I'm still undecided...

As far as my alleged ignorance and picking & choosing, I'd appreciate your clarification so I might enlighten myself - thanks in advance.

reply to post by Praetorius


Do you think Iran will flat out say they are building a bomb? obviously they will wait till they have one...

All evidence including their testing points to the fact that they are trying to build a bomb. That’s why they have sanctions imposed.
You can always find someone with a different point of view but the consensus is that they are trying to build a bomb. Even the ones who say they don’t have evidence that Iran is trying to build a bomb agree they will have the capability to build one. Including Dagan who spoke last week for the Globes.

So what is your point?
In your opinion Iran is not trying to build a bomb based on a fuzzy warm feeling you have in your body?
Do you honestly expect us to believe a country is working on capabilities to build a nuclear weapon but wont build one?

Again, the Sanctions imposed on Iran are for building a nuclear weapon. Meaning the political world consensus is that they are building a bomb.
So what exactly are you trying to argue?

Your answers are delusional and ignorant, I’m sorry…

reply to post by CountDrac

Do you think Iran will flat out say they are building a bomb? obviously they will wait till they have one...

My opinion is irrelevant. Facts are what matter, and there are none saying Iran is building nukes, or even necessarily working to be able to do so. And honestly, if I were Iran staring down the recent history and stated intents of the US and its allies, I would likely want one myself.

All evidence including their testing points to the fact that they are trying to build a bomb. That’s why they have sanctions imposed.
You can always find someone with a different point of view but the consensus is that they are trying to build a bomb. Even the ones who say they don’t have evidence that Iran is trying to build a bomb agree they will have the capability to build one. Including Dagan who spoke last week for the Globes.

If you'll read the article I cited and my post before it, you'll understand that my reference to Dagan was regarding his intelligence views on the MOTIVE for Iran wanting a bomb, if they do - which seem entirely reasonable. Regardless - Dagan also strongly opposes any attack on Iran over these claims, which so many seem to be lusting for.

And you keep mentioning all this evidence - can you please provide some of it (with it preferably from intelligence experts/agencies, analysts, National Intelligence Estimates, international oversight agencies, etc.)? I've provided a decent bit of information for what I've stated so far, reciprocation would be appreciated.

So what is your point?

I thought that was obvious. Slow down, think, seek FACTS - not false allegations and fearmongering, and once the facts are actually known, don't take stupid actions based on overreaction. And, of course, that I wish more people would agree with such courses instead of jumping so readily off the deep end into sheer insanity by supporting terrible policy decisions that will only make these situations much, much worse for all of us.

In your opinion Iran is not trying to build a bomb based on a fuzzy warm feeling you have in your body?
Do you honestly expect us to believe a country is working on capabilities to build a nuclear weapon but wont build one?

No - I think if Iran were trying to build a bomb, it would be entirely understandable (as I've already stated). We have them militarily surrounded, have bombed and invaded dozens of nations over decades and several of their close neighbors very recently, and have incessantly sounded off against them and made belligerent moves.

And I think that they are ENTIRELY within their rights to do the only thing we have CONFIRMED they are trying to do (develop nuclear energy) anyway, as members of the Nuclear non-proliferation treaty. North Korea developed the nuke, and yet...we stopped freaking out about them, and started leaving them alone. I would say that right there is pretty illustrative of Iran's actual desire for the bomb, if it exists - as well as very illustrative of our own hypocrisy on the matter, since last I checked, North Korea is no longer a NNPT state.

Again, the Sanctions imposed on Iran are for building a nuclear weapon. Meaning the political world consensus is that they are building a bomb.

The fact that we have imposed sanctions does not mean they are justified or based on any factual evidence - nor any less a terrible idea. If there's such a consensus as you keep claiming, perhaps you can provide some of the verifiable proof it would obviously have to be based on?

I'm more than a little convinced the best you'll be able to come up with is a lot of suspicion, circumstantial evidence, assumptions, and political motivation as we've been slavering over action against Iran for quite awhile.

So what exactly are you trying to argue?

If that's not abundantly clear by now, then I have to say you're even less perceptive than I initially thought. I mean no offense by that, but my arguments and the reasons for them should be patently obvious at this point.

Your answers are delusional and ignorant, I’m sorry…

And yet they are supported by actual facts, the light of history, and the weight of christian faith. That's an amazing paradox, isn't it?

reply to post by Praetorius


“And yet they are supported by actual facts, the light of history, and the weight of christian faith.”

What are you taking about?
You are picking and choosing statements by individuals and facts that fit your argument. You say Dagan said there is no evidence Iran is building a bomb, Good for him. The entire Israeli cabinet and the Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu say otherwise.
You give a few US officials that say the same while Obama and most of his administration think otherwise and imposed even more sanctions on Iran in the recent months.

I don’t need to argue or provide facts about anything because the consensus is that they are, therefore the sanctions and the tensions.

If you think otherwise then its up to you to provide us with some real facts. Meanwhile all you have provided are opinions of individuals who are arguing the status queue.

I can still find people who still think the holocaust didn’t exist...

You arguments are laughable, and it seems you argue for the sake of arguing.

reply to post by CountDrac

“And yet they are supported by actual facts, the light of history, and the weight of christian faith.”

What are you taking about?
You are picking and choosing statements by individuals and facts that fit your argument.

Right. Individuals like our own Secretary of Defense, our nuclear energy analysts, and apparently the Israeli intelligence agencies, according to the Haaretz article on Ehud Barak's lack of immediate committal to an attack on Iran and their intelligence reports to be released later this week...

The entire Israeli cabinet and the Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu say otherwise.
You give a few US officials that say the same while Obama and most of his administration think otherwise and imposed even more sanctions on Iran in the recent months.

I'm sorry, but the claims and actions of politicians in contradiction of any actual findings or explanation of motives and warnings against action by actual intelligence experts and defense secretaries doesn't do much for me, seeing as how the former have their own motivations that don't always stack up with truth.

I don’t need to argue or provide facts about anything because the consensus is that they are, therefore the sanctions and the tensions.

If you think otherwise then its up to you to provide us with some real facts. Meanwhile all you have provided are opinions of individuals who are arguing the status queue.

People thinking the same way you do also agreed with the "consensus" on Iraq, and I hazard to say it will be to much the same effect and every bit as much invalid argument. And apparently, facts, intelligence estimates, the testimony of various experts, and intelligence sources don't do a whole lot for you as you'll just toss it off and cry "consensus!!" without bothering to defend the consensus as being valid by substantiating it with any facts.

I've already addressed the consensus clearly - and it's based on possibilities, assumptions, misinterpretations, political motivations, disregard of motivations, and other such tripe. And you are apparently unable to provide anything concrete suggesting otherwise.

I can still find people who still think the holocaust didn’t exist...

OK...and? How many of them are intelligence experts, energy analysts, former CIA unit heads, the leaders of an entire nation's defense structure, and so forth?

You arguments are laughable, and it seems you argue for the sake of arguing.

No, I'm arguing because I'm tired of the people of this and other nations buying into hysterics and enabling tragedies of their own making. And if you're laughing about any of this, I feel sorry for you. You're making all sorts of claims and invalid appeals to insufficient authority, and are being led around by the nose every bit as much as I'd assume you probably were prior to the war in Iraq.

I think for proper contemplation of the subject we need to
view the subject matter to see what the fuss is all about

Holy smoking Jebus!
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reply to post by LeLeu
She's turkish, actually, and living in Germany...

The actress in question is Golshifteh Farahani, and Iranian.com has an article with two of the photos..I'm not sure if there are any more floating around out there

She's pretty, and the pictures aren't very extreme from what I can tell (soft-core at worst), but I'd have to say Sila is more attractive.

OMG, they don't like PORN over there? Those FREAKS! Banning some slut actress for being a centerfold? What is wrong with them? How repressive can you get? Imagine if porn were ILLEGAL, like it was until quite recently............IN THE US. I wonder who has caused the insane worldwide FLOOD of porn?

And once again, Dracula comes in and makes it somehow a justification for attacking those that Israel wants the US to attack. Hmmmm. If they won't allow sluts to pose naked for pictures, WE SHOULD BOMB THEM. That'll free those repressed women. And if we accidentally blow up half of those repressed women while we're at it, oh well, that's collateral damage. It's worth it. It's for the greater good. We had to burn the village to save it.

Drac. Perfect name for your kind.

I scanned over this thread, and it's basically the same thing over and over with any thread related to Iran.

So I will raise above it all and ask the Islamist Agents the following question;

Who is paying you to post propaganda on the internet? How much are they paying you?
Why have you accepted?

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I just cannot believe that people can be as ignorant as some of these posters are; So I am starting to think many of you are Islamist Propaganda Agents.

Furthermore, do to the ever present anti-antisemitism shown, I believe you Islamist Agents have studied Joseph Goebbels thoroughly...

reply to post by Confusion42
Confusion, might you be able to clarify exactly what you're referring to, offer something verifiable to support it, and point out for us this antisemitism you're seeing here?

I get a little frustrated with wide claims and vague accusations being added to threads, with not really much substance behind them that don't really give anyone much to work with...