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China's Carrier Killer Missile Conspiracy

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posted on Jan, 18 2012 @ 01:01 PM
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If any of you have followed the DF-21D, it is rumored to be a carrier killer. The technology itself is very old. This article says they could be made even deadlier. The technology is actually sitting in the Smithsonian. Scary...

the-diplomat.com...




posted on Jan, 18 2012 @ 01:17 PM
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I look at this another way, China develops a missile that we and the Russians both had the capabilities of making back in the 80s...

Okay China you enjoy your soviet era tech, Im sure we have much better toys now than them...

Theres a reason we signed the treaty with Russia that made us stop making them, and I am sure it was included because we had better tech at the time so it was seen as no big deal to give up that capability



posted on Jan, 18 2012 @ 01:18 PM
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The carrier used to be a flagship for innovation in the military. Humanity always built its wars around who had the shiniest toys and who could use them better in the struggle to have no shiny toys at all. Now, we have the value of a distributed computer network with a global reach, the important part of a carrier was its ability to carry force to almost anywhere in the globe.

It's not that this weapon is overblown in capabilities, but it is often brought up as scandalous evidence of the impropriety of our traditional MIC. It's not, the NATO forces that could be threatened by this technology are so large and have already innovated Carriers to what seems to be a peak of technological innovation that's only a branch of a larger communication network that represents their flagship of innovation.

The internet could be the tool used to cheapen aircraft-killing technologies so that it could be produced cheaply enough that you have an assured shot to taking out all the American carriers at once. You have that fact in their face, it's not going to fly, the internet and associated globalized forces that assert that the money traveling through China and out of China are the same as the money that flows in and out of every nation.

The paradigm shift you see happening in geopolitics is that to reduce the cost of deploying and monitoring the new flagship weapon of distributed and generalized computing power, America had to share it but without the implications of the full sovereignty that other weapons systems often came from.

Your internet service provider could be a communist, loose lips sink ships.



posted on Jan, 18 2012 @ 01:20 PM
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that seemed to read like a lot of "what if's" and very little actual knowledge in some places so basically just a guessing on what they could do and if they're announcing what they can do in public it probably means the western fleets have known about this for a while so have atleast some sort of defense against it



posted on Jan, 18 2012 @ 01:55 PM
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ask this is it cheaper to build new CVN fleet or to refit the old out dated ones, www.navy.mil... and see www.globalsecurity.org... for what the CVN21 is all about, what happened in 41' that changed the USN from a gun boat fleet to an modern fleet? and how do you get the masses behind you in an all out war? do some research and then think is this the end of the known fleet and the start of a new one. just saying.
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posted on Jan, 18 2012 @ 02:43 PM
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I wonder if the carrier could be going the way of the battleship with such Chinese weapons?



posted on Jan, 18 2012 @ 02:49 PM
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Originally posted by travis911
I wonder if the carrier could be going the way of the battleship with such Chinese weapons?


given how much effort has to be put into ensuring the safety of an aircraft carrier already you can see that with modern advances in technology on missiles/drones etc that the greater the chance of someone reaching the captial ship of the croup the more they'll protect it and the more protection they give it tells you how weak its defense is



posted on Jan, 18 2012 @ 03:03 PM
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Actually most innovative thought goes towards how Chinese influence will play out on the global networks, a smaller parallel in measuring the rise of Brazil is the fact that Brazilian players in American or European servers are obnoxious not only to their Spanish online rivals, but rude to the English especially.

It's not that the Chinese have a single weapon to knock America down, it's just the amount of their weaponry could be an economic weight that destroys American finances in a manner akin to the Cold War with the USSR.

Scary thought, the USSR knew this and collapsed in the face of Chinese expansion into computer manufacturing, seeing the rising Chinese republic become what would destroy Capitalistic Corruption, Russia wanted a small piece of the last bit of pie from the community of capitalistic coercion.

Maybe we can't blame them for falling, as long as they fell before the Americans to the sounds of a bought and sold Chinese Democracy too late to come relevantly. :p



posted on Jan, 18 2012 @ 03:28 PM
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The interesting thing about this is the conversation is still fluid. The same website that did that piece just did another one how the us is countering this whole Chinese strategy.

the-diplomat.com...



posted on Jan, 18 2012 @ 05:03 PM
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Does anyone thing the whole missile could be a Chinese mirage? Its never been tested?



posted on Jan, 19 2012 @ 11:21 AM
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yes that is a good question and more to the point... most likely "see what we have... not! Looks good on rice paper but does not in fact been created, nor tested but you think it does therefore it does, you silly westerners it is flyired rice... flyired rice"



posted on Jan, 19 2012 @ 11:39 AM
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There seems to be even more info on this that just came out in the same publication. China might be able to launch the missile from land, sea and air....

the-diplomat.com...




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