Originally posted by hmdphantom
reply to post by DJAghetto
Iran ? Developing ? Just like Iraq developing now ?
Iran was just run by a pupet called Shah and all we could get was pet on the back. And Iran is more independent and so developing than it was then.
Their economy is sinking, the sanctions are piling up, they’re attempting to “stand up” to the Americans, and the country is on the brink of
civil war. It’s a shame…
Excuse me . What is the name of the planet you live on ? Sanctions make us move faster toward independence. and the only true part you said was "the
sanctions are piling up".
Are you seriously trying to sell me the idea that your country is in a stable economic situation at the moment? And now with the latest reports of
India buying Iranian oil with gold, do you really think the US, EU, NATO, etc are going to allow that? More importantly, do you really think Russia
and China will actually back Iran up?
Zionism hasn't accomplished taking lands from Nile till Furat , and is just moving toward it.
The fact is , even Arabs knew what was the plan of Israel and settling down with Israel meant also handing over their country to Israel. Because
Israel would not settle down and will move to take all the lands it could.
US , UK and Israel were thinking "WE will go there , we will say we are friends , then we will take the land by force while claiming we are
friends". But the didn't accomplished. Maybe they should have done that 500 years ago when communication was not developed as today is.
Or the time UK was dividing tribes and nations in different countries to have the key to divide and conquer.
But they chose the wrong time and they won't succeed.
If your fantasy, of Israel expanding from “the Nile to the Euphrates”, was true then:
1- Israel would’ve never given back the Sinai.
2- Israel would’ve never signed a peace treaty with Egypt
3- Israel would’ve never evacuated its settlements in the Gaza Strip and withdraw from there.
4- Israel would’ve never signed a peace treaty with Jordan.
5- Israel would’ve never withdrawn from southern Lebanon.
6- Israel would’ve annexed the Gaza Strip and the West Bank by now.
These actions, by Israel, don’t really help them “expand”. How do you “expand” when you’re withdrawing from territories and striking peace
deals with neighboring countries that are strategically in the way of achieving borders that stretch from “the Nile to the Euphrates”?
Now, let’s look at it from a different perspective…
1- Israel is a nuclear-armed country, with one of the most technologically sophisticated and highly trained military in the world. This is FACT.
2- According to most ATSers and Anti-Israelis/”Zionists”, Israel doesn’t give a flying f**k about world opinion and is constantly “killing
women and children.” This is CONSPIRACY.
When you mix these two together, the claim of Israel “expanding” doesn’t add up. If this were the case, Israel would have already made it to
Iraq. There’s no military in the region that would stop them and the world (UN) would not engage militarily with a nuclear-armed country, which
would effectively destroy this planet.
Basically, Israel CAN “expand” if it WANTED to. However, its actions paint a different story.
The idea of a “Greater Israel” is nothing more than a wet dream held by very few people.
Another mistake you are making is generalizing Saudi Arabia with Arab world. The only country wants Israel in Middle East is the US pet , Saudi
Arabia.
Oh maybe I better say , the Saudi king alone.
You’re forgetting that no Arab country wants a nuclear-armed Iran and they all know that there’s only one country in the region that can
neutralize that threat. Also, Israel provides Jordan with military protection and co-operates with Egyptian Intelligence agencies. Trust me… Saudi
Arabia is definitely not the only one that needs Israel in the region.
Now back to the topic at hand…
Killing two people, who were planting explosives by the border, is not a “criminal act”. And as long as Hamas( or any other entity) attempts to
attack Israel, there will be consequences. Will there be another military operation in the Gaza Strip? That will depend on the new leadership of
Hamas.
It’s funny how the PA places pre-conditions for peace talks, as if they’re actually in a position to make
demands… 
You must be crazy!
Israel doesn’t
like terror organizations calling for its destruction. Israelis don’t like to look up at the sky at night and say, “Wait a minute… That’s not
a shooting star!” Israelis also don’t like it when people walk into café and just blow themselves up… You want to make a compromise? 
