reply to post by Lapislazuli
reply to post by arpgme
First off Hell is not for enternity! People have misunderstood that in the bible.
Rom 6:23 For the wages of sin is death but the gift of God [is] eternal life through Jesus Christ our Lord.
"The wages of sin is death" that is the final punishment of the non elect,death. God is merciful,it is only the cruelness of man that such a
creature would want a fellow human to suffer such great agony for ever.
Remember the rule God set up in the bible when paul was beaten. A person could only receive 40 stripes save one. So 39 stripes(because 40 stripes is
almost enough to kill someone) Throughout the bible you will find that when a person suffers it is only for a short while. The two thief's at the
cross both suffered for a short while then the one on the left entered death he is non existence no suffering in a place called hell. (In fact the
word for hell actually means grave).
The thief on the right entered into the greatest joy a human can receive he entered into paradise.
Luk 23:40 But the other answering rebuked him, saying, Dost not thou fear God, seeing thou art in the same condemnation?
Luke 23:41 And we indeed justly; for we receive the due reward of our deeds: but this man hath done nothing amiss.
Luke 23:42 And he said unto Jesus, Lord, remember me when thou comest into thy kingdom.
Luke 23:43 And Jesus said unto him Verily I say unto thee , Today shalt thou be with me in paradise.
But anyways to the point
You said that baby could be saved because the can't accept Jesus . Well first off John the baptist was saved in the womb,before he was even
conceived. Secondly accepting Jesus doesn't mean anything this is a false teaching. No one accepts Jesus. Jesus accepts you.
Tts 3:Not by works of righteousness which we have done, but according to his mercy he saved us, by the washing of regeneration, and renewing of the
Everyone is evil there is not one person better than the other I'm just as wicked as Hitler or as Martin Luther king we are all sinners.
Rom 3:23 For all have sinned, and come short of the glory of God;
There are many people in the bible who believed on Jesus but were not saved for example judas iscariot is one,Saul believed in God but wasn't saved.
There was a great multitude following Jesus that turned away because they loved the things of this world!
There is a verse that says that says something like this " you believe then you do well. The devils also believe and tremble! So just because you
believe doesn't mean your saved.
So yes hitler COULD have been saved or Could have been unsaved. Only God knows the heart. And to many people this would make them mad that hitler
might be saved, but people must remember ALL HAVE SINNED AND FALLEN SHORT OF THE GLORY OF GOD!
You are almost right about the last thing you wrote we are not saved by works but by grace that is the Grace of God. But we can't accept Jesus Jesus
accepts us. Accepting Jesus is a work.
Sorry for the long post but I hope this answers some or all of your questions/comments.
Remember God is a merciful God we always tend to look at all the bad things that happen and say "Gods not merciful) but it's our sin that has caused
all the bad in this world. Just look at all the Mercies of God. Start with every single heartbeat. For his mercies are more in number than the sand
that is by the seashore or the stars in the heavens!