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Debate audience goes crazy cheering when Gingrich says "We'll kill our enemies."

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posted on Jan, 18 2012 @ 11:30 AM
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how true but the sad thing is the Toilet is clogged and the plunger is broke , the plumber is on vacation, and the turd is starting to over flow the bowl.
TSA DHS NDAA all have done this to end them is to win so we a told but that is not the case , for it will not end, not till all the old guard is out of office , you want new policies and peace then get them out , all of them!!!! Ron Paul might be the only choice we have, you of foreign lands want us the US out of your lands then Ron is your man. I my self have had enough of the blood shed, the war needs to end no troops over seas, it is their problem now , no more US is the worlds police,nor defender it is time we look out for us the US , end the TSA DHS NSA, DoD as well.A standing force of a few thousand can do the job, when you do not plan on going to war. We the US need to be like the Swiss, mind our own and stay out of the world.

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posted on Jan, 18 2012 @ 11:33 AM
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Originally posted by ararisq

Originally posted by macman
What is the problem?
In warfare, you kill your enemy.
I want my dangerous enemies dead.
Don't see the issue here.


Who are our enemies again? Anyone labeled a "Terrorist" + Iranians? Chinese? Russians? Libyans? Egyptians? Syrians? Venezuelans? Cubans?


I wonder why these folks hate you in first place... oh wait, maybe related to your awful foreign policy?



posted on Jan, 18 2012 @ 11:35 AM
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Originally posted by darkest4


Threatens the US? You are so brainwashed it's sad. The US is the one who has been threatening, bombing and invading countries. No wonder they're tired of us. When did Iran threaten to invade the US? Never. Meanwhile we threaten it all the time, even in freaking election debates we're sitting there threatening other countries how messed up is that? And our media sells it as a good idea to people like you every day.. Who has Iran invaded in the last 10 years while we invaded 2 countries and bombed others? No one.

Here we go..
That's nice and all.
But, seeing that I really don't rely on the media for my info, what you stated does not apply.





Originally posted by darkest4
"A realy nice savage" huh? First off, there's two Ls in really.

Finally, someone sees it.
Do you get it?


Originally posted by darkest4
Second, are you taking pride in being savage or something?

Yep, sure do.
I embrace what I am. I will not be shy about it nor will I try to package myself as something that I am not, to make others feel good.




Originally posted by darkest4
About sums up the tone of your posts. Sad.

I just might cry in the corner over that.



Originally posted by darkest4
So tired of this propaganda machine ruining otherwise good American brains and turning them into heartless human beings who think only the life of American's means anything.
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Now I am going to cry, or maybe sob in the corner for a bit.
Boo-hoo.

Back to being a savage.
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posted on Jan, 18 2012 @ 11:36 AM
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Originally posted by woodwardjnr

Originally posted by macman
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Yep, and the Democrats and Liberals cheer on the killing of unborn babies.
Poop called, said vomit stinks.



Well seeing as I am neither, what's your point and can you post the videos of those cheering abortion.


A metaphorical cheering.
But, if you want, I am sure I can find videos on youtube showing people cheer for a politician that states they are pro-choice.



posted on Jan, 18 2012 @ 11:39 AM
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Originally posted by macman

Originally posted by Stryc9nine
reply to post by macman
 


you are just a pawn in their little game. nothing more nothing less. to your unit, your life might be important but to them you are just a sacrificial piece. the way we are headed, war with iran is imminent. tell me this, how are they a threat to the us? stop justifying to yourself thinking you are fighting the bad guys. have you ever wondered you might be actually fighting FOR the bad guys?


Who said I was currently fighting?
Lots of assumptions today on ATS.

If Iran gets Nuclear Weapons, then they have the means to back up their threats.
First strike becomes the option.
Never said we should strike without cause.
Geesh, lots of Magic 8 balls working overtime this Tuesday.



Arent they completely surrounded by enemies and under constant threat and harassment?

why wouldn't they want Nukes LMAO.



posted on Jan, 18 2012 @ 11:42 AM
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I guess you wouldn't like my favorite quote then: "Crush your enemies, see them driven before you, hear the lamentations of their women!" I want to see my nation's enemies completely, totally crushed. After that, a benevolent peace.



posted on Jan, 18 2012 @ 11:46 AM
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Originally posted by FuturePeace

Originally posted by macman

Originally posted by Stryc9nine
reply to post by macman
 


you are just a pawn in their little game. nothing more nothing less. to your unit, your life might be important but to them you are just a sacrificial piece. the way we are headed, war with iran is imminent. tell me this, how are they a threat to the us? stop justifying to yourself thinking you are fighting the bad guys. have you ever wondered you might be actually fighting FOR the bad guys?


Who said I was currently fighting?
Lots of assumptions today on ATS.

If Iran gets Nuclear Weapons, then they have the means to back up their threats.
First strike becomes the option.
Never said we should strike without cause.
Geesh, lots of Magic 8 balls working overtime this Tuesday.



Arent they completely surrounded by enemies and under constant threat and harassment?

why wouldn't they want Nukes LMAO.


Ok, that is fine.
But, actions have repercussions.
I hope that all in the matter are ready to pay those.



posted on Jan, 18 2012 @ 11:47 AM
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Originally posted by ararisq

Originally posted by macman
What is the problem?
In warfare, you kill your enemy.
I want my dangerous enemies dead.
Don't see the issue here.


Who are our enemies again? Anyone labeled a "Terrorist" + Iranians? Chinese? Russians? Libyans? Egyptians? Syrians? Venezuelans? Cubans?


That is correct and I'm glad you pointed that out. Terrorism is a tactic and has no face. It is impossible to have a war against a tactic. Unless we, as a nation, declared constitutional war against another nation engaging in this tactic, then we ourselves are terrorists.



posted on Jan, 18 2012 @ 11:49 AM
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I don't remember calling you names. If I did I apologize.
I have said I believe your moral compass is broken and you have a thirst for blood and a hunger for killing.
I also believe you have already killed in battle.
Like many here at ATS on both sides of any issue ,you assume too much of me and anyone else who opposes your view on killing. There is more to killing another human being than just pulling the triger. And thats what you don't understand.
Too many soldiers on both side of any war have died because of people that think like you, and many have been spared by people who don't.
My opinins of you ,and others who disagree with your view are drawn from your own self portrait.
And you still don't understand.



posted on Jan, 18 2012 @ 11:55 AM
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Originally posted by taskforce4256
reply to post by ararisq
 


I guess you wouldn't like my favorite quote then: "Crush your enemies, see them driven before you, hear the lamentations of their women!" I want to see my nation's enemies completely, totally crushed. After that, a benevolent peace.


Conan the Barbarian isn't someone you should look to for words of wisdom lol. Key word here is Barbarian, and the part was written perfectly.



posted on Jan, 18 2012 @ 11:57 AM
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It's been very interesting reading these comments. My father, who was a fairly well noted psychiatrist in Europe, told me that the Left was, in general, the emotionally damaged and the intellectually stunted, being led by the mentally disturbed. I have seen nothing here to contradict him.



posted on Jan, 18 2012 @ 12:02 PM
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Originally posted by OLD HIPPY DUDE

I don't remember calling you names. If I did I apologize.

Ok then.



Originally posted by OLD HIPPY DUDE
I have said I believe your moral compass is broken and you have a thirst for blood and a hunger for killing.

My challenge still is there. Please show me where I have stated I either enjoy killing or yearn for it.



Originally posted by OLD HIPPY DUDE
I also believe you have already killed in battle.

Again, please provide proof, otherwise it is just assumptive BS.


Originally posted by OLD HIPPY DUDE
Like many here at ATS on both sides of any issue ,you assume too much of me and anyone else who opposes your view on killing.

What have I assumed. I did not state you are a pacifist, nor coward or anything to that matter.
I did not attempt some "Therapy for Dummies" analysis of you.



Originally posted by OLD HIPPY DUDE
There is more to killing another human being than just pulling the triger.

Gee, thanks for the insight.




Originally posted by OLD HIPPY DUDE
And thats what you don't understand.

Oh really? More assumptions.




Originally posted by OLD HIPPY DUDE
Too many soldiers on both side of any war have died because of people that think like you, and many have been spared by people who don't.

As of right now, we are still under an all voluntary military.
The choice is yours.




Originally posted by OLD HIPPY DUDE
My opinins of you ,and others who disagree with your view are drawn from your own self portrait.
And you still don't understand.

I do understand.
You don't like that I have an opposing viewpoint.
That is fine. Go forth and assume some more.
I can't stop someone from making their own mistakes. Go right ahead.

Again, I have no problem with me. I like me and know that what I do in life is right.
If you want to bow down for peace, go right ahead.
I will not.
If you want to offer a hug and an ear to someone that threatens you, go ahead. I will not.

You take it how ever you want to.
There is our difference.
You won't stop until I give in.
I, don't care if you give in or not.
You, are not my problem in life.



posted on Jan, 18 2012 @ 12:03 PM
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If we spent the same amount of money on waging peace that is spent on waging war, then we would surely see peace in our lifetimes.

That will not happen however, because defense contractors and the Senators and Representatives who hold stock in them and are paid off by their lobbyists and who receive campaign monies from them would not make HUNDREDS OF BILLIONS OF DOLLARS off of peace. They only make huge profits when we are at war.



posted on Jan, 18 2012 @ 12:05 PM
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Originally posted by taskforce4256
It's been very interesting reading these comments. My father, who was a fairly well noted psychiatrist in Europe, told me that the Left was, in general, the emotionally damaged and the intellectually stunted, being led by the mentally disturbed. I have seen nothing here to contradict him.


Not one person in this thread has talked about their political leanings. You're making assumptions about others because they are against people "cheering for war".

Look, those who blissfully cheer for war and death are missing major screws upstairs.ie: emotionally damaged, intellectually stunted, and mentally disturbed. Period. Court is adjourned.

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posted on Jan, 18 2012 @ 12:06 PM
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That group looked half retarded and fully inbred... That was the drooling masses that voted for
Bush TWICE, I hear banjos...



posted on Jan, 18 2012 @ 12:11 PM
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Yep, nothing like hearing the retort of a Socialist, proclaiming those there as retarded, inbred and so on.

As always, you prove my views on your stances concrete.



posted on Jan, 18 2012 @ 12:18 PM
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Originally posted by ararisq

Originally posted by macman
What is the problem?
In warfare, you kill your enemy.
I want my dangerous enemies dead.
Don't see the issue here.


Who are our enemies again? Anyone labeled a "Terrorist" + Iranians? Chinese? Russians? Libyans? Egyptians? Syrians? Venezuelans? Cubans?


I would say anyone who attempts to do harm to yourself, your people, or innocents.

I cant understand why bleeding heart liberals are so naive. Yes, peace and love and light, (or whatever it is you hippies say) is nice in theory. HOWEVER, there are real people out there who dream about doing others harm.

The US Military is like the big bully kid on campus who is constantly standing up for the little pipsqeak kids who are being harrassed by other bullies.

Keep in mind who's phones ring when the world dials 911. Iran? Libya? France?



posted on Jan, 18 2012 @ 12:20 PM
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He has no right to talk about or quote President Andrew Jackson.

Andrew Jackson's biggest Enemy was the big banks trying to take over the United States Currency. I sure don't see "The Newt" taking on the Federal Reserve.

Andrew Jackson Quotes:


The bank, Mr. Van Buren, is trying to kill me, but I will kill it.




As long as our government is administered for the good of the people, and is regulated by their will; as long as it secures to us the rights of persons and of property, liberty of conscience and of the press, it will be worth defending.




Elevate those guns a little lower.




Every diminution of the public burdens arising from taxation gives to individual enterprise increased power and furnishes to all the members of our happy confederacy new motives for patriotic affection and support. Read more:




I have always been afraid of banks




I weep for the liberty of my country when I see at this early day of its successful experiment that corruption has been imputed to many members of the House of Representatives, and the rights of the people have been bartered for promises of office.




It is to be regretted that the rich and powerful too often bend the acts of government to their own selfish purposes.




Mischief springs from the power which the moneyed interest derives from a paper currency which they are able to control, from the multitude of corporations with exclusive privileges... which are employed altogether for their benefit.




Never take counsel of your fears.




One man with courage makes a majority.




Our government is founded upon the intelligence of the people. I for one do not despair of the republic. I have great confidence in the virtue of the great majority of the people, and I cannot fear the result.




Take time to deliberate; but when the time for action arrives, stop thinking and go in.




The Constitution and the laws are supreme and the Union indissoluble. Read more:




The brave man inattentive to his duty, is worth little more to his country than the coward who deserts in the hour of danger.




The great constitutional corrective in the hands of the people against usurpation of power, or corruption by their agents is the right of suffrage; and this when used with calmness and deliberation will prove strong enough.




The people are the government, administering it by their agents; they are the government, the sovereign power.




The planter, the farmer, the mechanic, and the laborer... form the great body of the people of the United States, they are the bone and sinew of the country men who love liberty and desire nothing but equal rights and equal laws.




The safety of the republic being the supreme law, and Texas having offered us the key to the safety of our country from all foreign intrigues and diplomacy, I say accept the key... and bolt the door at once.




The wisdom of man never yet contrived a system of taxation that would operate with perfect equality.




Unless you become more watchful in your states and check the spirit of monopoly and thirst for exclusive privileges you will in the end find that... the control over your dearest interests has passed into the hands of these corporations.





When asked what his greatest accomplishment had been during his two terms as President, Andrew Jackson replied "I killed the Bank." He was talking about the "Second Bank of the United States", which was our country's second central bank.


You tell me how many politicians would talk like this today? there are a few, Ron Paul, Rand Paul and a few others.

As for quoting our historic and great people of United States.

You have zero right to quote any of our Greats who created or upheld the constitution unless you too are willing to do so, and become for the people.

THE NEWT is not for the people and doesn't even deserve to be in the same book as Andrew Jackson let alone quote him.

Once again: The enemy President Jackson was talking about killing was the Big Banks which were trying to take over the US currency.

Would Newt have stood up to the powers trying to take over the country like they had in England?
Or would he be a sell out like Woodrow Wilson who signed the Federal Reserve Act in 1913 as well as starting the IRS, to collect money for the Federal Reserve Bank?

I'm guessing Sell Out.
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posted on Jan, 18 2012 @ 12:23 PM
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Your sarcasm is only matched by your casusl approach to killing which you flaunt as a badge of courage.

I hope you have found my posts as entertaining as I have found yours.
and good luck getting your compass fixed.



posted on Jan, 18 2012 @ 12:28 PM
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Originally posted by OLD HIPPY DUDE

Your sarcasm is only matched by your casusl approach to killing which you flaunt as a badge of courage.

Proof that I have killed and enjoyed it.
Otherwise, just more of your BS.



Originally posted by OLD HIPPY DUDE
I hope you have found my posts as entertaining as I have found yours.
and good luck getting your compass fixed.

My compass is just fine.
Good luck serving on your knees, when the time comes.





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