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Debate audience goes crazy cheering when Gingrich says "We'll kill our enemies."

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posted on Jan, 17 2012 @ 03:39 PM
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Originally posted by macman
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What is the problem?
In warfare, you kill your enemy.
I want my dangerous enemies dead.
Don't see the issue here.


I agree; however the HUGE exception is this: it's obvious the US government under the NDAA, the DHS, and FEMA classifies many US citizens as "enemies" because they do not agree with certain policies of the government. Newt said what he said; does he think US citizens who are classified as enemies of the US government should be killed?

The way certain legislation has been written recently and the growing police and military state domestically, it could be a slippery slope and it's BLATANTLY unconstitutional. The US Constitution was written to give citizens the ability to disagree with the government. It's why the country was founded.




posted on Jan, 17 2012 @ 03:41 PM
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Originally posted by macman

Originally posted by SunnyDee
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Not asking for a lot of research out of you, but could you show me one statement where they say they would strike first. Thanks.

www.ynetnews.com...

First several paragraphs say enough for me.


That Israeli article is vague at best. In the article he ((amadinajad )is quoted as saying that the US and Israel will come to an end. If you read more, it does not say that he will bring that end. He says that the US and others are trying to play sunnis against shiites in an effort to undermine the territories. Nowhere in the article does it say he will attack either country.

I just wanted you to find me something where he actually says they are coming to attack, be the agressors and all that.



posted on Jan, 17 2012 @ 03:44 PM
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The US, UK , NATO and all their allies have turned normal people into hate-filled crazies.
There,s been so much war since 9/11 and so much propaganda about Muslims and the middle East that peopl seem to just want them all dead.



posted on Jan, 17 2012 @ 03:55 PM
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Typical bleeding heart pacifists.


If you don't want to kill our enemies, how about we dump you with them? Let's see how humane they are with you.

Our prime enemies are the majority of Middle Eastern countries, and we need to take them out one by one until we can isolate and finally conquer the ones with the most resources (Saudi Arabia, Kuwait, etc.). If they don't have an adequate defense to defend their resources, then they are essentially begging for a powerful and merciful country like America to take it from them.

Then it's time to take out Asian and African countries. The world is ripe with resources and people who are too poor to harness it themselves, so we might as well take it away from them.

Human nature is human nature. People always fight over resources and the best always win the war.



posted on Jan, 17 2012 @ 04:07 PM
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Originally posted by Diablos
Typical bleeding heart pacifists.


If you don't want to kill our enemies, how about we dump you with them? Let's see how humane they are with you.

Our prime enemies are the majority of Middle Eastern countries, and we need to take them out one by one until we can isolate and finally conquer the ones with the most resources (Saudi Arabia, Kuwait, etc.). If they don't have an adequate defense to defend their resources, then they are essentially begging for a powerful and merciful country like America to take it from them.

Then it's time to take out Asian and African countries. The world is ripe with resources and people who are too poor to harness it themselves, so we might as well take it away from them.

Human nature is human nature. People always fight over resources and the best always win the war.


Please tell me you don't really feel this way. If so, I consider you a very dangerous immature idiot.



posted on Jan, 17 2012 @ 04:09 PM
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I think everyone needs to step back and understand (at least IMHO) Macman, is being extremely literal.
He finds nothing wrong with the statement, Kill my enemies. What your all assuming is that he means go to war, and kill people. He did not say that. Now in everyone else defense, your not going out of your way to make clear lol, but I think that is the fun in it. He's being a bit facetious and everyone if kind of falling for it.

I agree, i someone attacked my family with deadly intent, he would be my enemy and I would kill him.

So more to the question is, do we really think these people were cheering killing our enemy, in the sense of we are defending our country. No. I think its pretty clear these people were blood lust morons who think anyone's skin is browner then theirs, is an enemy and it is disgusting behavior. They were pro war, pro blood shed and I am afraid from what you read on forums on most political blogs or sites, it is an alarmingly growing trend. extreme right wing ideology, wrapped in a fake Christian, blue collar suit. But what it is is hatred, greed and evil. But that is what they want, to pit us against each other, to play on years of psych ops training. Trust me, the average IQ is very easy to manipulate and they have know it for a while, they are just getting real good at it now.

Together we stand, Divided we fall , think about that statement and the real reasons they are playing us.

I myself, a democrat will vote for RP, I do not agree with everything he says, but I do believe at the end of 4 years we will be in a better place for us, America, both financially and internationally. Though I do believe threats will come up, but not to us America, but to allies and we will have to ready to be ok with not coming to everyone's
aid. Lets fix what is broken here first.



posted on Jan, 17 2012 @ 04:11 PM
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reply to post by Destinyone
 


Please do not feed the trolls =)

Ignoring idiocy is your best defense IMHO =P



posted on Jan, 17 2012 @ 04:15 PM
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Originally posted by ShiftTrio
reply to post by Destinyone
 


Please do not feed the trolls =)

Ignoring idiocy is your best defense IMHO =P


I wasn't feeding him....I was telling him how I honestly felt about what he posted. He is not the only one with that attitude.

If you watched the debates last night, it appears there were well over a hundred like minded idiots.

Quite frankly, people like them, scare me. I would think they would be a bit worrisome to you also. JMOHO.



posted on Jan, 17 2012 @ 04:20 PM
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Originally posted by ShiftTrioPlease do not feed the trolls =)


The many conservatives who agree with me must be "trolls" as well.



posted on Jan, 17 2012 @ 04:20 PM
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Amen to that!! These christian leaders or reptilian overlords who pray to satan should be slain. I really dont understand this mentality except to bring on the world govt. Basically we will kill you no matter if your innocent or guilty. We decide who lives and dies except dont kill any unborn unwanted children. Wtf is going on???



posted on Jan, 17 2012 @ 04:21 PM
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Originally posted by Diablos
Typical bleeding heart pacifists.


If you don't want to kill our enemies, how about we dump you with them? Let's see how humane they are with you.

Our prime enemies are the majority of Middle Eastern countries, and we need to take them out one by one until we can isolate and finally conquer the ones with the most resources (Saudi Arabia, Kuwait, etc.). If they don't have an adequate defense to defend their resources, then they are essentially begging for a powerful and merciful country like America to take it from them.

Then it's time to take out Asian and African countries. The world is ripe with resources and people who are too poor to harness it themselves, so we might as well take it away from them.

Human nature is human nature. People always fight over resources and the best always win the war.


Typical internet tough guy child who has not lived in the real world. The US is right at 100% debt to GDP ratio and you want to engage in MORE colonization of the world?

You'd never pick up a rifle and join the US military of course and put your own life at risk.

The ideas you espouse really are childish, ignorant, and sickening.

Every empire that has conducted itself like the United States has over the last several decades, is now nothing but a story in dusty history books that people like yourself should pick up and read more often.

Why have trade when we can just march into sovereign lands and take the resources.



posted on Jan, 17 2012 @ 04:25 PM
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I take it back then..I thought you were just fanning the flames like some many do.

But if you really think murdering people and carving up the world for your benefit and for resources like a game of Risk is a good plan. You are definitely living up to your name and no need to discuss anything further.

Lets hope you do not end of on the wrong side of that carving up plan. We shall see how fair you think it is then.



posted on Jan, 17 2012 @ 04:26 PM
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Thankfully chicken hawk war mongers like you are the minority.

www.pollingreport.com...

www.pollingreport.com...

www.pollingreport.com...



posted on Jan, 17 2012 @ 04:27 PM
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Starred!!

Honestly thought he was a troll.. My perception is off a lil today =)


edit on 17-1-2012 by ShiftTrio because: spelling error



posted on Jan, 17 2012 @ 04:34 PM
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Why is this video controversial? The audience responded in approval. Why? Because what Newt said was factually accurate. So what?



Well how many in that audience hollering away are actually prepared to go out there and do the killing, or are they just wanting to fight to the last drop of someone elses blood?



posted on Jan, 17 2012 @ 04:41 PM
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Originally posted by Drew99GTTypical internet tough guy child who has not lived in the real world. The US is right at 100% debt to GDP ratio and you want to engage in MORE colonization of the world?

That can easily be taken care of by slashing entitlements and cutting the fat of bureaucracies that currently infest the federal government. Besides, what better way to pay off our debt than with foreign resources?



Originally posted by Drew99GTYou'd never pick up a rifle and join the US military of course and put your own life at risk.

If I could join the military, I definitely would. One of my goals is to work in a national lab as a military scientist, designing the most technologically advanced weapons for our soldiers. It's not hard to fight a country about as advanced as ancient rome when you have drones, Solid State lasers, and Rail Guns at your disposal. As AI also increases, sooner or later our soldiers won't even have to risk their lives on the battlefield and will be trained to control entire fleets and armies of drones that will reduce an entire nation to the ground.



Originally posted by Drew99GTThe ideas you espouse really are childish, ignorant, and sickening.

Yet, the ideas I propose are what have kept mankind alive for all these years. Compassion and sympathy are recent traits developed by liberal thinking people, but never existed much in the early history of mankind. Man only got to where he is through hatred, tribalism, racism (not saying racism is good, but it served a useful purpose back in the days of old), nationalism, patriotism, war, etc. and not compassion and sympathy. How often did cavemen in a tribe meet with other humans who looked completely different (different ethnicity/race) and decided to work with them rather than see them as a threat and to destroy them and take their resources? Yet, those same cavemen are the ones who thrived. I truly wonder what happened to all of those peaceful ones, though?



Originally posted by Drew99GTWhy have trade when we can just march into sovereign lands and take the resources.

Trade is only for those countries that can mount a reasonable defense against an assault for their resources. It is a privilege that is earned, not given.
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posted on Jan, 17 2012 @ 04:43 PM
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How about promoting peace!
Ron Paul.



posted on Jan, 17 2012 @ 04:45 PM
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Originally posted by macman

Originally posted by P12SOLD

Originally posted by macman
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Kind of like a really big Suicide Bomber, huh?
Yeah, you go ahead and believe that Iran would not do it.


Thats a false analogy. And, what prove have you got to show Iran would fire first upon Israel, if it had a nuclear weapon? Israel, it seems is carrying out covert actions inside Iran. Has Iran been as belligerent, as Israel?
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I am not going to do your research.
There are many quotes for Mahmoud Ahmadinejad and other groups stating they would strike if given the opportunity.
And yes, Iran has been on the covert, just like other countries.


My research undertaking would probably be lot different to your kind of research, mate. Tell me now do you speak Persian? If you do. Then you wouldn't be saying these are true quotes. He never said he strike first your telling lies here.



posted on Jan, 17 2012 @ 04:47 PM
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Debate audience goes crazy cheering when Gingrich says "We'll kill our enemies."



I get the feeling that the only reason the audience cheered is because, to them, the word "enemy" is synonymous with "Obama".



posted on Jan, 17 2012 @ 05:03 PM
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Since it seems just the thought of being able to join the military has you shivering with anticipation...mind telling us why you can't? Could it be you are too young?

Everything in your post, has a slight tinge of massive amounts of X-BOX play at it's roots. Mind you, this is JMOHO.

Des



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