Debate audience goes crazy cheering when Gingrich says "We'll kill our enemies."

I keep wondering at what point I will stop being suprised by the craziness that is the American people. Has this constant blood lust been around so long that we've all grown numb to it? People/politicians/big business want to keep killing and killing and killing and killing. The thing I feel like is left out of all of this " kill em all" rhetoric is that in order for our "enemies" to die we have to be willing to send our military youth to their deaths. Everytime I hear one more person say we need to attack someone I wish they would include " We need to kill our enemies and sacrifice our troops to do it"

A very interesting statistic everyone needs to look up is the annual American death total caused by terrorists but don't confuse that with insurgents. Look up the past 20 years. Next thing to look up is civilian deaths in the wars we've initiated or taken part in.

Saying all that I say this. What could isolationism do for us? Some may say they still would want to kill us. Well maybe so and they probably will for the first 50yrs. Considering we won't be crusading around the world we shouldn't have to worry about it. All of our troops that are abroad can strictly protect our borders, waters, an airspace. But how many foreign terrorists acts have occured on American soil? How many domestic acts have occured( we should include most mass shootings because that's our equivalent to a suicide bomber)? With isolationism we could rely on ourselves and get back to our manufacturing, research, and intellectual roots. We'd have to or we wouldn't survive.

It'll never happen but something to think about.

It never ceases to amaze me how brainwashed the American people have become. The American Dream is over. your country has already passed it's peak and I'm afraid that more and more, we will see a more empirical and fascist nation hell bent on taking other nations riches, all while hiding behind the false guise of democracy. They will use every excuse in the book to justify going to war with other nations. Every excuse but the truth.

I'm not going to say all, but many Americans have been brainwashed by the MSM to such a degree that they no longer have a realistic view of the rest of the world. They still see America as the land of the free, the land of opportunity, the greatest country on Earth, when in actuality, it is anything but. The real powers behind your nation have mass psychology down to a complete science. They play you all like a fiddle and you all just dance along with stupid smiles on your faces. Wake the eff up America!

You need to take your country back! Your country has been hijacked and TPTB are using it to hold the rest of the world hostage.

A vote for anyone other then Ron Paul is a vote for the monsters who want to enslave the world. Make your stand now before it's too late.

Originally posted by Drew99GTYou're sick in the head; there's much evidence that cave men and early man lived harmoniously amongst each other and nature, and it's modern man with intellect and thought that fights amongst one another.

Patently false. Cavemen were known to brutalize and instantly attack people of different tribes, let alone people of different races/ethnicities. What false historical accounts are you reading?

A bunch of imperialist Christians, not saying all Christians are bad at all.

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because he isa draft dodging chickenhawk.Him and his ilk always talk the talk but can never walk the walk!

NEWT was he a member of the satanic worshipers ?

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Never heard that one before? He is your standard politican so perhaps so?

Classic example of the twisted mindset of a Republican. Whether it's cheering death for the uninsured or death to our enemies... It's always cold, always with hate for the outsiders, hate for the weak or poor, and always without empathy.

Originally posted by ararisq
Who are our enemies again? Anyone labeled a "Terrorist" + Iranians? Chinese? Russians? Libyans? Egyptians? Syrians? Venezuelans? Cubans?

Enemies? We don't have enemies. Am I right? These people are our friends. They want nothing but the best for us. They want to see us grow and succeed. Am I right? There's no such thing as a terrorist. That's just a silly lie that the American government made up so we could invade another country for no reason. Am I right? We're our own worst enemy. We are the only wrong doers in this world. Am I right?

Originally posted by ollncasino

If Americans suddenly became more 'understanding' of their enemies, don't expect such understanding to be reciprocated.

After all, the Muslims chanting "death to America" firmly believe that they are the civilised ones, while the Americans are the fanatical barbarians.

Perhaps both sides are wrong.

But they are still enemies.

Frankly, I consider both groups and anyone like them fanatical barbarians that should be either locked away forever or put to rest.

Originally posted by SunnyDee
In the future people will never kills others, it will seem odd and sick. We, as a species, will study the past and find "wars" with one another strange and barbaric, like a caveman. We will wonder why this was the chosen way to do business for profit, when it could be done in peaceful and meaningful ways.

This future is past our and our grandchildren's timeframes, but maybe our great-greats will be reading about this era in dismay.

200 years ago the world was vast, now it's a plane ride away. We are essentially one, we just have not come to terms with that yet.

futurists have always said naive things like this.....to this day it still isn't true. great thing about the future, it never gets here

Originally posted by spiritualzombie
Classic example of the twisted mindset of a Republican. Whether it's cheering death for the uninsured or death to our enemies... It's always cold, always with hate for the outsiders, hate for the weak or poor, and always without empathy.

personally,

i don't empathize with anyone who turns themselves into a weapon and kills innocent children and women.I'd rather see those kinds of people dead in a very horrible fashion, but hey! that's just me!

Originally posted by roshjoberts
Why can the whole world not just get along. Can we not put our differences aside for a week to make a treaty, or at least UNDERSTAND why people don't like us?

Scarcity.

Scarcity of resources, power and prestige.

Neither understanding why people hate America nor understanding differences will stop those Muslims you speak of wanting what America has - its resources, power and prestige.

If on the other hand America is willing to be submissive to other groups and give up its resources, power and prestige, then their can be peace, but only on the now dominant group's terms, not Americas.

AMERICA

HECK YA

SUCK OUR ANAL TRACKS WORLD

12 pages I read through and all I can say is that I am truly frightened for the future of this country if this site is any indication of the grasp on reality and human history that many self-professed liberals have.

Kill my enemies? Damn skippy, without hesitation or mercy. If you think that you would fare any better with the Taliban or AQ please, be my guest and try. Fly over to the Afghanistan or Pakistan and find a Taliban militia, walk right up, and give them a big old hug. Let me know how that works out. If you don't have the stones to do that, just ask Daniel Pearls widow how he fared when he was there. Oh never mind, silly me, that was all over the news or have you completely forgotten about that?

The reality of life is that hugs kisses and flowers are for your family, not your enemies.

For those of you who say that people who think like this are mentally defective or crazy, wake up. Your neighbor would sell you out to anyone who has the right price. If this is somehow beyond your capacity to fathom, then you have lead a very sheltered protected life. You don't have to walk down a street in Bagdad to learn this, all you have to do is walk through the wrong neighborhood here in the US. Try DC, LA, or Chicago then (if you survive the experience) come back and tell me how all people really want is love and understanding.

Mac, I see what your saying and agree with pretty much everything you have stated. Keep the faith.

As far as the poster who said that Newt was being laughed at in the German Newspapers, who cares? Seriously, I think the Europeans have a lot more pressing issues to deal with, like the coming collapse of the EU, so maybe you should stay out of American politics. Your political history, just in the 20th century should prompt you to concern yourselves with yourselves.

Am I being to harsh? Maybe, but then again reality is a lot harsher than anything I can say.

Oh and just for the record, I far prefer peace to war, but there really are times when killing your enemy is the only alternative, ask anyone like my grandfather who survive Auschwitz.

It is well that war is so terrible - otherwise we would grow too fond of it.
Robert E. Lee, Statement at the Battle of Fredericksburg (13th December 1862)
US-Confederate general (1807 - 1870)

Peace. (no sarcasm)

Originally posted by OLD HIPPY DUDE
My , my , macman, serving on my knees ?
You don't know me.

No, no I don't.
But, from your statements, that is what is suggested.

Originally posted by OLD HIPPY DUDE
You truley assume too much.

Assuming what?
I don't go off your screen name. I go off your statements.

Originally posted by OLD HIPPY DUDE
The difference between you and I, is you talk the tough guy and I bring it.

Bring what? Assumptions and Hype? You sure do.

Originally posted by OLD HIPPY DUDE
Don't assume my moniker of Old Hippy Dude means dirty , drug ridden,liberal, flower child, thats your first mistake.

I never did. Again, going off your statements.

Originally posted by OLD HIPPY DUDE
Your second mistake is suggesting I serve any person or government on my knees.

Again........from your statements, it shows this.
You would rather given in, and bow down for Peace.
If this is false, then please state as such, instead of just providing false statements with no proof and hot aired Hype.

Originally posted by OLD HIPPY DUDE
If you would like to go 3 for 3 just PM me , I dont need an audience like you do.

Oh boo-hoo.
You sound alot like another member that fell to self proclaimed victories.
No PM. Everything out in the open.
If you don't like it, then take your ball and go home.

Originally posted by aorAki

Originally posted by macman

Originally posted by ararisq

Originally posted by macman
What is the problem?
In warfare, you kill your enemy.
I want my dangerous enemies dead.
Don't see the issue here.

Who are our enemies again? Anyone labeled a "Terrorist" + Iranians? Chinese? Russians? Libyans? Egyptians? Syrians? Venezuelans? Cubans?

Anyone that threatens the US.
Very simple.

So if the U.S.A threatens other countries they can kill you guys?
Surely that must be so?

what a load of horrible, hate-propagating nonsense.

Self preservation.
I have no problem with other countries seeing the US as a threat, and going about life as such.
But, beware.
Doom on those that fight the American Military.

I see both sides. I, just don't sugar coat or pitch BS in the idea that I want the US to succeed above all others.

Originally posted by axiscized
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because he isa draft dodging chickenhawk.Him and his ilk always talk the talk but can never walk the walk!

That is nice.
Never have I stated I back or support Newt.

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I have delt with several tough talking cowerds like yourself but mostly in person.
Your comments are all tough, empty and vague.
Try stepping up and make things clear.
Who are americas enemys ? Name them. What real threat do they pose to america ?
Is the taliban a threat to america ?
Is everyone from the middle east your enemy ?
If someone cut you off driving then flipped you off is he you enemy ? Would you kill them ?
Have you killed anyone ?
You support killing then clairify .
And stop making vague blanket statments.

Originally posted by OLD HIPPY DUDE

I have delt with several tough talking cowerds like yourself but mostly in person.

So, what happened to no name calling?
Yep, you are SUCH a bigger and better person.
Sure sure.

Originally posted by OLD HIPPY DUDE
Your comments are all tough, empty and vague.

How so?

Originally posted by OLD HIPPY DUDE
Try stepping up and make things clear.

Like what?

Originally posted by OLD HIPPY DUDE
Who are americas enemys ? Name them. What real threat do they pose to america ?

Anyone who negatively affects the US.

Originally posted by OLD HIPPY DUDE
Is the taliban a threat to america ?

Yes

Originally posted by OLD HIPPY DUDE
Is everyone from the middle east your enemy ?

No.
That is about as dumb sounding out loud, as it should have been when you typed it.

Originally posted by OLD HIPPY DUDE
If someone cut you off driving then flipped you off is he you enemy ? Would you kill them ?

No.
Now you are just grasping.

Originally posted by OLD HIPPY DUDE
Have you killed anyone ?

That really is none of your business.

Originally posted by OLD HIPPY DUDE
You support killing then clairify .

What is there to clarify.

Originally posted by OLD HIPPY DUDE
And stop making vague blanket statments.

Like what?


How about before you start in on your BS, why not answer my questions, and provide some sort of proof say, 3 pages back.
Instead of deflecting and attacking.

I bet you will ignore that, and just continue on with your BS rants.