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Fluoride Linked to #1 Cause of Death in New Research

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posted on Jan, 17 2012 @ 01:55 PM
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Originally posted by clutch36hp
BEER it is then!!



Sorry beer has it too




posted on Jan, 17 2012 @ 01:55 PM
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Originally posted by NeoVain
reply to post by TheComte
 



Of course, the truth is fluoride only accumulates in the large calcium deposits (ie teeth, bone, and the pineal gland because it normally calcifies with age) so you don't have to worry. You're ok and so is everyone else.


Flouride accumulation is hardly the only problem with flouride. However you are welcome to live in denial if you want, otherwise just click on the link below and educate yourself. You may need to scroll down to see all the major issues, with ample research evidence to support each claim.

www.fluoridealert.org...


Judging by the replies in this thread, I'm not the one who needs to educate themselves. Instead of taking everything you read on a quack website as gospel, why don't you enlighten yourself as to the nature of fluorine and its compounds?



posted on Jan, 17 2012 @ 01:57 PM
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You may want to watch the entire movie as I believe you missed the point of the sarcasm

The General goes nuts and launches his bases nuclear bombers to provoke a war with the Soviet Union because he believes fluoridation is a communist plot that has made him impotent.

It is poking fun at people who believe fluoridation is a nefarious conspiracy.



posted on Jan, 17 2012 @ 02:03 PM
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Originally posted by SethGecko
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Not to discredit you, but there are many toxic chemicals you could ingest daily such as to much salt, to much sugar and to many carbohydrates.. but because they are not in high toxicity it doesn't actually effect your body in a bad way, much like the % of fluorinated water. Is it bad for you? Yes in certain doses, can it be beneficial yes, in certain doses.

Hell why don't you guys parade around saying alcohol is drank everyday and is highly toxic and bad for your health and body. Much the same with cigarettes. (they do have warning labels on these both substances) But in certain studies alcohol is actually GOOD for you provided you're responsible and have small doses. Much like fluorinated water, can you show me a study conducted on basic tap water that proves how bad it is to the general populus? Not just how bad the chemical is, in general?


Drinking alcohol isn't as dangerous as fluoride is, and cigarettes are even less dangerous, it doesn't really surprise me that you posted this, and probably hadn't read the article, please go read it and get back to me as soon as you can after doing so.



posted on Jan, 17 2012 @ 02:05 PM
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Well..S***.



posted on Jan, 17 2012 @ 02:10 PM
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Alcohol and cigarettes are not as dangerous as fluoride?

Only in the minds of anti-fluoridationists. There happens to be peer-reviewed published studies that show without a doubt the link between smoking and cancer. There are none of these concerning fluoride and the supposed effects touted by the anti-fluoridation crowd.

Let's have a kill-off. I'll drink fluoridated water and you drink your favourite alcoholic beverage. We will not stop until one of us is dead. Who do you think will win?



posted on Jan, 17 2012 @ 02:15 PM
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It is known to me that chelation of heavy metals is possible from the human body. Here's an excerpt from Wiki for Chelation Therapy:


Chelation therapy is the administration of chelating agents to remove heavy metals from the body. For the most common forms of heavy metal intoxication—those involving lead, arsenic or mercury—the standard of care in the United States dictates the use of dimercaptosuccinic acid (DMSA).[citation needed] Other chelating agents, such as 2,3-dimercapto-1-propanesulfonic acid (DMPS) and alpha lipoic acid (ALA), are used in conventional and alternative medicine. No approved medical research has found any benefits to chelation therapy for other diseases or ailments.[1] [2]


Read this link for more info: en.wikipedia.org...

The reason that I am asking this is quite simply because there are many organic chelating agents which can remove toxic metals from the blood. Are we to believe that there are not ways of removing forms of sodium like fluoride from the body?

What I really want to know is if anyone has discovered an agent which is safe to use in the human body, but which can also remove built up fluoride deposits. If anyone has the info, please share!



posted on Jan, 17 2012 @ 02:34 PM
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skate liver oil and cod liver oil will work to decalcify vein walls and the pineal gland of fluoride and other mineral build-ups. in the medicine community it is sometimes called the 'Activator X' factor of foods. recently believed to be the vitamin K2.

info
bodyecology.com...

spiritlibrary.com...

"Speaking with a Dr. Pete Peterson, a government insider and whistleblower in an interview with Project Camelot, he revealed that oil from the rat fish, or skate fish species prevents both tooth decay and can also work to decalcifiy the pineal gland, mainly due to a substance called, "Activator X."



"Dr. Price discovered an additional fat soluble vitamin that he called "Activator X" and which was also referred to by others as the Price Factor or X Factor, and is now believed to be vitamin K2. It is a powerful catalyst which, like vitamins A and D, helps the body absorb and utilize minerals. It was present in the diets of all the healthy population groups he studied but unfortunately has almost completely disappeared from the modern western diet. Sources include organ meats from cows eating green grass, fish eggs and shellfish. Butter can be an especially rich source of Activator X/vitamin K2 when it comes from cows eating rapidly growing grass in the Spring and Fall seasons. It disappears in cows fed cottonseed meal or high protein soy-based feeds. Fortunately, Activator X/vitamin K2 is not destroyed by pasteurization."




while searching for links to for this post, i got this as a result, an excerpt from David Wilcock's book The Source Field Investigations

Excerpt about pineal gland calcification, fluoride, and how to get rid of it.

i've personally read this book and it's a new favorite, i highly recommend it. very encompassing theories.



posted on Jan, 17 2012 @ 03:15 PM
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I've just decided that I'm going to save up a few paychecks for a reverse osmosis water filtration system. This website sells a bunch, and the one I'm looking at is a countertop system for $360 + shipping.

This was posted earlier, but I'll post it again because it's very informative:



posted on Jan, 17 2012 @ 03:15 PM
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I've completely neglected to mention a semi-secret... Coconut water. I've been drinking it for a few months now. It's extracted directly from the coconut and put in a can or bottle. If it's a natural process, it should be filtered and no fluoride added to it.

It's good for hydration, but have no experience in cooking, and I wouldn't use it for coffee or tea etc, as it's naturally a bit too sweet or tart to be used like regular water.



posted on Jan, 17 2012 @ 03:18 PM
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If the people that think it's so great want to ingest flouride, then why not just go and buy some systemic flouride and have at it? You can have all you want. But why cram it down our throats when we DON'T want it? Could it be because it would cost billions to dispose of it?

I know ATS has a number of pro-pharma/gov't lobbyists, but c'mon guys. Stop being so obvious. This is a CONSPIRACY site. What the h are you even doing here if all you do is dispute EVERY SINGLE COMMENT?

Here is some reading. And again, all the pro-flouridians, go get some.... and drink it all up!!!! Good luck with that!

www.fluoridealert.org...



posted on Jan, 17 2012 @ 03:21 PM
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i dont see any sources for the research?



posted on Jan, 17 2012 @ 03:21 PM
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I'm currently drinking fluoride infested water right now, wish me luck in 40 years!



posted on Jan, 17 2012 @ 03:24 PM
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Be careful with cod liver oil because it is a natural source of vitamin A which can be toxic at high levels. Fish oil has all the benefits without the vitamin A, and so does flax seed oil (though not as efficient because of conversion issues).
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posted on Jan, 17 2012 @ 03:31 PM
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If industry pollutes a water supply with Benzene at a very low dose and Erin Brokovich and attorney collects hundreds of millions of dollars in damages, shouldn't local governments have to pay those with cardiovascular disease millions in damages for contaminating the water supply with a chemical that causes a fatal cardiovascular disease?



posted on Jan, 17 2012 @ 03:36 PM
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So...heart disease is directly linked to one of the active ingredients in our drinking water? And the government prefers to fight over the "laws" of the Internet?

So impressive...



posted on Jan, 17 2012 @ 03:37 PM
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That study doesn't link Fluoride usage with cardio. disease in any way. The fluoride in the study is used as a marker to determine the accuracy of an imaging procedure to diagnose artery disease. It has nothing to do with fluoride being a contributor to any disease. Please read the study.....

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posted on Jan, 17 2012 @ 03:43 PM
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Originally posted by kokoro
That study doesn't link Fluoride usage with cardio. disease in any way. The fluoride in the study is used as a marker and it is not the subject of study.




The purpose of this study was to assess fluoride uptake of vascular calcification in various major arteries, including coronary arteries.




Significant correlation between fluoride uptake and calcification was observed in most of the arterial walls, except in those of the abdominal aorta. Fluoride uptake in coronary arteries was demonstrated in 28 (46%) patients and coronary calcifications were observed in 34 (56%) patients. There was significant correlation between history of cardiovascular events and presence of fluoride uptake in coronary arteries. The coronary fluoride uptake value in patients with cardiovascular events was significantly higher than in patients without cardiovascular events.




CONCLUSION: sodium [¹⁸F]fluoride PET/CT might be useful in the evaluation of the atherosclerotic process in major arteries, including coronary arteries. An increased fluoride uptake in coronary arteries may be associated with an increased cardiovascular risk.


Taken from the study itself.

www.greenmedinfo.com...




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posted on Jan, 17 2012 @ 03:46 PM
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I told my grandfather the other day about fluoride in the water and he was like.... "Yeah I know its for your teeth" LOL I said then why does it go down your throat into your stomach fluoride is meant for your teeth not to be consumed.



posted on Jan, 17 2012 @ 03:46 PM
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I told my grandfather the other day about fluoride in the water and he was like.... "Yeah I know its for your teeth" LOL I said then why does it go down your throat into your stomach fluoride is meant for your teeth not to be consumed.



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