Practical Applications for E-Cat and How We Earn $, page 2

privacy

Pages: << 1 2 >>
ATS Members have flagged this thread 6 times

reply posted on 17-1-2012 @ 10:24 AM by zarp3333

reply to post by flexy123

You're missing the point. The world stands on the cusp of a transformative event of historic proportions. The reason I asked to ASSUME the E-Cat is real is because there is a flood of new technology coming from so many sources, new technology which is impossible to ignore or stop. Whether its the E-Cat or NASA's LENR, the future is near.

These devices will create demand and opportunities. Those looking for a new direction would be well served to get up to speed.

If you are the kind of person who is so adverse to risk, you will never be a leader.

reply posted on 17-1-2012 @ 09:55 PM by jdub297

reply to post by zarp3333

Honestly, for too long, too few have profited too much from selling the citizens of the world a natural resource owned by all of us. What gives them the right? It's time to take it back and ATS will be a site offering practical advice on just how to do it. Take that Mr. Standard Oil.

Sorry, but that just reflects acomplete misunderstanding of basic property law, mineral rights, and free market ecomonics.

Uncle Jed owns a piece of land. Got a problem with private property ownership?

Jed owns everything below his land and above it within his ability to capture and utilize it, so long as it does not interfere with others' superseding rights (easements of necessity, such as overflight for aircraft, satellites, birds, et c.).
Jed's land sits over a pool of crude that spreads out under Zarp and Jethro's land, but they have no idea what "guzzinta" taking crude from the ground.

Jed makes a hole and finds "bubblin' crude."
Jed leases a part of his land to "Mr. Standard Oil," who owns a big drill, hired a crew, and knows someone who will refine, bottle and sell Jed's crude.
"Mr. Standard Oil" agrees to pay Jed for the use of the land, and a portion of the revenue (royalties) he gets from selling the crude.
Under Jed's "right of capture," he can drain all of the oil, with "Mr. Standard Oil's" help, from the entire pool.
Jed's family tells him that California is the place he oughta be, so they load up the truck and they move to Beverly (Hills, that is)..

Meanwhile, Zarp, Jethro (and Rossi) whine and moan that, " too few have profited too much from selling the citizens of the world a natural resource owned by all of us;" instead of doing something constructive about it, like providing schematics and materials lists for an "invention" they claim will make Jed and "Mr. Standard Oil" obsolete.

How sad.
Someone shoould make a movie.

jw.

reply posted on 18-1-2012 @ 01:07 PM by TeslaandLyne

reply to post by zarp3333

It takes a few KWH to get it started to overunity and some sustaining power
which I did not catch the amount. The process may not involve nickel at all
and thus an energy expense. Multiple units are required for more heat and
to the extent of driving steam turbines for electrical generators the quality
of the steam will determine how long the turbine lasts. At least the theory
of overunity is now fact even though mums the word on the underlying principles.
ED: 2.7KWH was mentioned as start up and that is 27 amps at 100 Volts
household which might need new wiring to be safe. Once a year nickel replacement
is required.

edit on 1/18/2012 by TeslaandLyne because: (no reason given)

reply posted on 18-1-2012 @ 01:20 PM by boncho

reply to post by TeslaandLyne

You realize that makes no sense. Excess heat is being produced yet for some reason additional heating is required through a process that claims to be producing more heat energy than it's using.

More on that thought.

reply posted on 20-1-2012 @ 10:38 AM by TeslaandLyne

Originally posted by boncho
reply to post by TeslaandLyne

You realize that makes no sense. Excess heat is being produced yet for some reason additional heating is required through a process that claims to be producing more heat energy than it's using.

More on that thought.

No sense.
The process is over unity by agent atomic Hydrogen, AH.
AH reacts with itself with greater heat than with anything else
in order to be recycled back to H2.
Stuffing a lot of Nickel to react with the AH is a waste.
You want as little excess consumption of AH as in the AH Torch as
pointed out by William R. Lyne years ago. So you want walls
that are as inert to AH reaction as possible.
Sure it makes more heat than its using but can be a lot better.
So if you doubt over unity still wait for the better unit.

ED: Yeah. I'll take a look at that as I mentioned in the edit.
Rossi pre heats and has a sustaining heating.

However, Rossi heated the device with 2.7 kilowatts of electricity for four hours in advance. This amounts to 38.88 megaJoules of energy. He also heated the device during the phase which Lewan called “self-sustaining.” The input was 115 Watts for 3.5 hours. That’s 1.44 megaJoules of energy.

From that link.
also

That’s a total energy loss of 8.82 MJ during a 7.5-hour period*. In other words, Rossi has demonstrated a water heater that is 78 percent efficient. This is inconsistent with his claims of having a device that produces substantial amounts of excess heat in comparison to input energy.

Well once it gets rolling just wait 7.5 hours, over unity can't start right away in an
inferior product.

edit on 1/20/2012 by TeslaandLyne because: (no reason given)

Pages: << 1 2 >> ^^TOP^^