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"There is no energy crisis in the world" - Free Energy Devices have been around for years - based

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posted on Jan, 16 2012 @ 11:51 PM
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To open, I'd like to say that I have done many years of reading and research in theoretical physics, science, and free energy, among other things. For years, I have been supplementing my income as a researcher for various data companies (mostly demographics for the web, marketing, etc). Here's the story that could change the world.

I first met Mr. E at a 24 hour Denny's from an ad I posted in Google. I was supposed to do some work for him on compiling statistics and designing code for a website. I got there first, sat down, and about 5 minutes later he walked in and sat down. We began to talk about what he's wanting for a site, and I ask him what his credentials are. He tells me he has degrees in Physics and Chemistry, so naturally the conversation quickly turns into a talk about free- energy and the physics of black holes.

He tells me he is working on a free-energy device that is built on the science of Tachyonics, and although I like to think I am well-versed in physics matters, his theories really blew my mind. I asked him if it is OK to post on this website (among others, but this site FIRST), and he said yes.

We then spoke on the phone and he tells me he'd like me to be an intermediary for him, since his English skills are lacking a bit. I looked over his research, and it's pretty sound stuff. So I bring this to you, the good community of ATS, to tell me what you think the next step to make these devices possible in real life applications. I give you:

FREE ENERGY DEVICES - PAST, PRESENT, & FUTURE

The Moray Radiant Energy Device





In the early 1900's, Dr. T. Henry Moray of Salt Lake City produced his first device to tap energy from the metafrequency oscillations of empty space itself. Eventually Moray was able to produce a free energy device weighing sixty pounds and producing 50,000 watts of electricity for several hours. Ironically, although he demonstrated his device repeatedly to scientists and engineers, Moray was unable to obtain funding to develop the device further into a useable power station that would furnish electrical power on a mass scale.

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Hans Coler Device




Magnetstromapparat devised by German naval engineer and inventor, Hans Coler (or Kohler). Entitled "The Invention of Hans Coler, Relating to an Alleged New Source ol Power," B.I.O.S. Final Report no 1043, Item No. 31, Summer 1946, this report consisted of tests and findings on two strange circuits conducted at the University of Berlin between the World Wars under the auspices of none other than Dr. Winfried Otto Schumann, discoverer of the Schumann resonance of the earth. A mere glance will explain why the device attracted the immediate attention of the German Navy, which classified it as a possible source of quiet and limitless energy for submarine propulsion. It will be noted that this hexagonal construction of coils and magnets and two "rotating" sub-circuits has absolutely no source of power. Yet, to the mystified Coler and Dr. Schumann, it nevertheless managed to produce, or better, transduce power seemingly... from nowhere.

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Lester Hendershot Device




The fuel-less generator was demonstrated many times from 1928 to 1960, which convinced many witnesses, including Charles Lindbergh

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The Hubbard Coil




Hubbard's Claims If young Hubbard's claims are correct regarding the newest coil he has perfected, and which propelled a boat yesterday, these are a few of the things the coil would do without cost other than the initial outlay of $90: Drive a large touring car at normal speed. Illuminate a moderate-sized office building. Furnish current for lighting, cooking, and heating for a large residence Heat seven two room apartments. Alfred M. Hubbard, Seattle boy inventor of a device which for want of a better name he terms an atmospheric power generator, yesterday made good his prediction that he would drive a motorboat with the apparatus as a source of power.

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The Testatika Device





Testatika is an electromagnetic generator based on the 1898 Pidgeon electrostatic machine, said to produce "free energy" available directly from the environment.-Wikipedia



Free Energy Today


Which brings me to this video:

which was uploaded by Mr. E. If you have any questions, feel free to email and I will forward them to him. All images are linked to source material. Thanks.

 
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posted on Jan, 16 2012 @ 11:56 PM
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Awesome! Hopefully if Ron Paul gets in office he will give things like this serious consideration. Please don't remove this thread!



posted on Jan, 17 2012 @ 12:02 AM
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I find this extremely interesting. My personal opinion, and this would probably highly contested, is that we have had theoretical trouble designing devices based on the laws of physics simply because our laws are wrong. I think that if scientists and researchers would start looking into and applying "Reciprocal Physical Theory," discovered by D.B. Larson, we would have advanced beyond current technology, as well as solved theoretical problems that currently have scientists dumbfounded, causing them to reach ever further into the land of assumptions to fix these problems.



posted on Jan, 17 2012 @ 12:05 AM
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I'm still trying to understand how free energy is derived in an environment where nothing is gained and nothing is lost. How is this possibe??? If it was the PTB would have already skillfully obtained and utilized it and we'd be paying service fees for receiving their services.



posted on Jan, 17 2012 @ 12:07 AM
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Originally posted by bestideayet
I looked over his research, and it's pretty sound stuff.



Yet once again, as always, and forever will be, we have a claim that a free energy device has been around for years and yet the actual fundamental principles behind it are completely 100 percent missing fromn the claim.
Photos, buzzwords and blurry plans, and once again no way of anyone else being able to build a second machine to verify the claim.


Originally posted by bestideayet
... to tell me what you think the next step to make these devices possible in real life applications.


You shouldnt be asking us. You should be asking HIM to show how we can build one ourselves.

Over at overunity.com there are a band of keen people trying to build free energy machines, but have so far failed completely.
Get him to give those people the key to principles behind the machine.

Otherwise its a big claim with no backing.



posted on Jan, 17 2012 @ 12:10 AM
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And might I just also add that over at overunity.com, they've been trying to replicate the Moray machine for many years.
But of course, as always, any vital clues are missing.

Here's one such message thread...
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posted on Jan, 17 2012 @ 12:28 AM
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In order to verify that an electric motor is feasable, you dont have to build an actual motor.
You just have to see the principles that an electric current and a magnet can interact is ways that produce a motive force.
Someone with a workshop can then use that principle to build a motor of their own design, and many different designs exist.


In order to verify that a steam engine is feasable, you dont have to build an actual steam engine.
You just have to see the principles that when water boils it produces steam, that steam expands to a greater volume than the water, and that the expansions pushes against the side walls of the container.
Someone with a workshop can then use that principle to build an engine of their own design, and many different designs exist.


In order to verify that a petrol motor is feasable, you dont have to build an actual motor.
You just have to see the principles that this liquid fuel burns very quickly, and produces gases that expand and the expanding gases push against the sidewalls of the container. You may also like to prove that the fuel vapor can be ignited with a spark.
Someone with a workshop can then use that principle to build a motor of their own design, and many different designs exist.


In order to verify that a free energy machine is feasable... there is NOTHING you can do.
Your source needs to rectify this situation, or STFU.



posted on Jan, 17 2012 @ 12:31 AM
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Originally posted by alfa1

In order to verify that an electric motor is feasable, you dont have to build an actual motor.
You just have to see the principles that an electric current and a magnet can interact is ways that produce a motive force.
Someone with a workshop can then use that principle to build a motor of their own design, and many different designs exist.


In order to verify that a steam engine is feasable, you dont have to build an actual steam engine.
You just have to see the principles that when water boils it produces steam, that steam expands to a greater volume than the water, and that the expansions pushes against the side walls of the container.
Someone with a workshop can then use that principle to build an engine of their own design, and many different designs exist.


In order to verify that a petrol motor is feasable, you dont have to build an actual motor.
You just have to see the principles that this liquid fuel burns very quickly, and produces gases that expand and the expanding gases push against the sidewalls of the container. You may also like to prove that the fuel vapor can be ignited with a spark.
Someone with a workshop can then use that principle to build a motor of their own design, and many different designs exist.


In order to verify that a free energy machine is feasable... there is NOTHING you can do.
Your source needs to rectify this situation, or STFU.


Well said.



posted on Jan, 17 2012 @ 12:40 AM
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The ONLY ANSWER TO THIS problem for society is....... for ANY inventor of such a device to make public the design and keep it out of the hands of the corporations for profit. The inventor will make PLENTY of money with books and fame, forget making money off the device!!!!!!! THAT is why the devices All Disappear!!!!!!!!!!! GET IT INTO THE HANDS OF THE PUBLIC!!!!!!!!!!! And THEN.... we can all break free of the corporate shackles! You Can't Squash the Public Domain (I Hope!) I see these posts all the time. And look at lots of so-called devices that are then never heard of again. So...either they are false or hidden away. Neither of which does mankind any good. Let's see some inventor do what needs to be done for humanity.



posted on Jan, 17 2012 @ 12:51 AM
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Excellent posts alfie.

I fully agree on the idea on asking the man in question here since he came to the OP and why dont you ? Then you would really have something to tell us.


How come we can see all these claims for all these devices posted in the op but not one of them include the full theory or plans to build one of them. How come they are so often shown but apparently not one plan of which one can be reconstructed ever leaked anywhere?

Going by the story in the OP you are quit friendly with this mr.e and seem to be talking quit passionately about the topic. Surely there must be more to tell.What do you think about the validity of this man ? I must admit i don't know jack about free energy theories but i would be very curious about the response alfie will get now that he had sent it out to a group that is in practice active on the subject.



which was uploaded by Mr. E. If you have any questions, feel free to email and I will forward them to him. All images are linked to source material. Thanks.


Maybe he can join the board and discussion.


S&F


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posted on Jan, 17 2012 @ 01:14 AM
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I'm wondering some things..

You call him "Mr. E" all secretive like... Then the video starts spouting Mr Eue Jeong's name???

Also, for someone who needs help with the internet, he's put together a pretty swish video...

Lots of snazzy figures about capacitors, but, high voltage is easy to create (shuffle on nylon carpet), but you also need the current as well.

I'll believe it when I see it.. until then, pfffffffffffffffffftttttttttttttt
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posted on Jan, 17 2012 @ 01:45 AM
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Originally posted by Qumulys
Also, for someone who needs help with the internet, he's put together a pretty swish video...



He's got his own blog!
And for someone who's English is supposedly lacking, he writes very clearly.


The world of physics is certainly changing although in slow pace. I published the paper regarding the nature of neutrinos in LLNL archive in 1997. Now it seems like the real experimental proof is coming. This result is going to change the shape of our physics for ever.
The paper was based on the examination of the data from the neutron decay experiment and from the comparison of the data from the supernova explosion, and also from the observation of the lack of the evidence on whereabouts of the massive number of neutrinos in the universe.
They (neutrinos) must exist somewhere but no one knows where. And surprisingly no one seems to be bothered by its lack of precise residency.


dipolegravity.blogspot.com

One wonders why, if he really wants to present his free energy machine to the world, why he doesnt just put the details up on his own freaking web page!



posted on Jan, 17 2012 @ 01:55 AM
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Originally posted by bestideayet
He tells me he has degrees in Physics and Chemistry, so naturally the conversation quickly turns into a talk about free- energy and the physics of black holes.


Did anyone else read that and scratch their head? As if every time someone with degrees in Physics and Chemistry meet they invariably talk about free-energy.

He claims to have a Ph.D from the "University of Michigan, Ann Arbor, Michigan". Seems a weird way to word what college he went to. He also claims to have the secret to antigravity. How do you graduate from a US University with a Ph.D. if you can not speak english? This sounds like so much crap it's rediculous.
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posted on Jan, 17 2012 @ 03:33 AM
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If Dr. Paul gets into office what?
The only thing the president should be doing is allowing the free market to grow, not decide what to grow.
These people who build free energy devices should not be hindered or hampered, but they should also not be papmpered either.
If the device works, people will invest, and then churn them out.
But popular information as of late, (there being a TOTAL lack of any free energy device) says there is no credibility.
Would I like my own "free energy" device?
I dunno, you tell me, I run 30% solar.
It is not free or optimal, but it is what I have.
Why dos nobody piggyback the last guys work and progress it?
Because someone was able to put "reasonable doubt" into their head that it just may not be real.

Dr. Paul is not our saviour but I do believe he may be the one to tell the "law makers" to sit down and shut up.
So the free market can get under way and do what it does.
But the last thing we need is another soylindra.


XL5

posted on Jan, 17 2012 @ 05:53 AM
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Bestideayet, ask him to join ATS and have him explain in simple terms the physics that make free energy and what device really works (my bet is the Hans Coler device). If he has built one and it works, he should share the plans or the basic general idea with us and I will make it.

I have taken a 3 year program for electronics eng. and I am good at making mechanical devices but can not understand advanced math. If I did get any free energy, even one watt and could loop it, I would make up simple plans and give them out for free and might even send Boncho a device to test.

Maybe free energy is just the quantum teleportation of energy from black holes or the sun. If energy dense particles from a black hole are entangled, maybe quantum entanglement teleportation of energy can happen, just a thought.



posted on Jan, 18 2012 @ 04:41 PM
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I will post first, and then read the thread
as usual.

Yes, it is possible to tap this fundamental energy, call it ZPE or whatever..
Yes, capacitance, or more accurately charge, has everything to do with it.
You obviously missed My first ever thread on ATS.
And this video is even worse than mine!

I have proven this to be possible, using ordinary conductors & capacitors, but don't expect more than a 1:5 ratio or thereabouts, and it's VERY tricky.
I have some issues with the video, lack of explanation etc, and i fail to see how a spherical capacitor would do anything, since both charge carrying surfaces have to be equal, and that's impossible with a sphere, and the charge will tend to gather on the OUTSIDE of a sphere (faraday effect).
So what gives

The 'repulsive force' making an electron move away from...what

Only a like charge will repel another charge.
You must understand that charge & gravity are indeed linked, and it is IMO also the reason they both have superluminal attributes, this is why there are sometimes crossovers, T.T. Brown springs to mind.
I would be more than happy to try & replicate this device, if i had the plans....


Try This thread for a more coherent explanation of ZPE.

It is only by rigorous testing of the theories, and careful replication, analysis, & peer review that will get overunity machines recognised, i am extremely active to that end, and if you want to see what has currently been debunked/tested by me & my colleagues, go and read my other thread.

I'm not plugging my threads (well, i am
) but i simply can't be bothered to explain it all again.........
PWM



posted on Jan, 18 2012 @ 04:57 PM
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Energy=Matter
Simple, really



posted on Jan, 18 2012 @ 05:05 PM
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You are, unfortunately, correct (well almost).

There are, and always will be, inventions that are lost, & then rediscovered, or actively repressed for a whole bunch of reasons, i would say that Pride has killed more inventions than Big Oil.
Free energy,antigravity, time travel, all possible.

The correct part was your last statement.
All you need to do to prove this machine is......replicate it!



posted on Jan, 18 2012 @ 05:08 PM
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Absolutely.
We're working on it



posted on Jan, 18 2012 @ 05:19 PM
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You have a valid point, sir

I charge my phone, camera, ipod etc all solar.
Works fine, but i need 30Kw to run my house.....
Hence the experiments.
IMHO it won't make a difference who is president, the results will be the same



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