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Imagine a world without the United States as the global leader. Even short of the imaginative and intelligent scenario of chaos that British historian Niall Ferguson outlined in this magazine (see A World Without Power, July/August 2004), it would certainly look grim. There are many issues on which the United States is the crucial organizer of collective goods. Someone has to be concerned about terrorism and nuclear and biological proliferation. Other countries might bristle at certain U.S. policies, but would someone else really be willing to bully, threaten, cajole, and bribe countries such as Libya to renounce terror and dismantle their WMD programs? On terror, trade, AIDs, nuclear proliferation, U.N. reform, and foreign aid, U.S. leadership is indispensable.
Originally posted by spidergooch
I am curious to ask a question.
What of what I said was "Insulting?"
The historical references are facts. The criticism of our inaction in Rawanda and the Sudan are based on our inaction.
The fact that the middle east holds that majority of the remaining crude reserves on the planet is also a fact.
In what way does taking a critical look at our history take away from any of the accomplishments that have taken place? The liberation of Europe from the Nazi boot, tremendous, and at a tremendous sacrifice. The collapse of the Iron Curtain, cudos.
But please help me to understand where I am insulting in pointing out our history. I am most curious.
Originally posted by elaine
But in case it mattered i am half English/Irish, so you can spare the "oh and you think the Empire was so great" coz i know it wasn't OK?!
This dude does'nt even like his own country or have any loyalty to it. Who cares what he says or thinks about ours???
[edit on 13-9-2004 by elaine]
Originally posted by PistolPete
1. It does matter what other nations have done in their history. That doesn't excuse the US for things we've done, but it doesn't make the atrocities that other various nations have commited excusable either.
You can criticize for what another country is currently doing, but if you have it in your past too you can't claim the moral high ground many of you do.
I don't know exactly the point I'm trying to make there, but I think someone will get it.
I will remind you if it weren't for freedom, most of those links wouldn't exist