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reply posted on 13-9-2004 @ 07:34 AM by dr_strangecraft
Gee, time was when we could have been talking about the UK, rather than the US. Here's a few lines from a racist/imperialist of a bygone age. (Rudyard Kipling). Perhaps Corinthas can translate them for us.

"The White Man's Burden"

Take up the White Man's burden--
Send forth the best ye breed--
Go bind your sons to exile
To serve your captives' need;
To wait in heavy harness,
On fluttered folk and wild--
Your new-caught, sullen peoples,
Half-devil and half-child.

Take up the White Man's burden--
In patience to abide,
To veil the threat of terror
And check the show of pride;
By open speech and simple,
An hundred times made plain
To seek another's profit,
And work another's gain.

Take up the White Man's burden--
The savage wars of peace--
Fill full the mouth of Famine
And bid the sickness cease;
And when your goal is nearest
The end for others sought,
Watch sloth and heathen Folly
Bring all your hopes to nought.

Take up the White Man's burden--
No tawdry rule of kings,
But toil of serf and sweeper--
The tale of common things.
The ports ye shall not enter,
The roads ye shall not tread,
Go mark them with your living,
And mark them with your dead.

Take up the White Man's burden--
And reap his old reward:
The blame of those ye better,
The hate of those ye guard--
The cry of hosts ye humour
(Ah, slowly!) toward the light:--
"Why brought he us from bondage,
Our loved Egyptian night?"

Take up the White Man's burden--
Ye dare not stoop to less--
Nor call too loud on Freedom
To cloke your weariness;
By all ye cry or whisper,
By all ye leave or do,
The silent, sullen peoples
Shall weigh your gods and you.

Take up the White Man's burden--
Have done with childish days--
The lightly proferred laurel,
The easy, ungrudged praise.
Comes now, to search your manhood
Through all the thankless years
Cold, edged with dear-bought wisdom,
The judgment of your peers!


[edit on 13-9-2004 by dr_strangecraft]


reply posted on 13-9-2004 @ 10:43 AM by wpetito
I always find it funny reading these american bashing posts, when most of the people outside of america do not realize what a true american is, a true american isn't the politician running for office, or the wealth mongering power hungry elitist, and that is what you just will not get, america itself is about freedom, about freedom to fight for what we believe in, and before you start throwing links at me about things happening to negate that freedom, I will remind you if it weren't for freedom, most of those links wouldn't exist, and if it weren't for freedom, I would not be able to fight back against those who would try to steal it.

I am an american, i fought for this country, and I am proud for what i stand for when i salute my flag. Yes it does bother me that the rest of the world will criticize us as a people by judging the 5% of us who do the worst, whereas if I were to turn around and point fingers at the rest of the world, you would go cowering in the corner because you don't have a leg to stand on, and i do take all challengers to that, whatever country you are from, tell me how good you are compared to the rest of the world.

I don't criticize you for who you are, and don't say you are bad as a people because of what some of you may do, i.e. I don't hate iraq because saddam was a madman, could you imagine if i judged iraqis based on him? So please spare me the anti-american banter, and try to concentrate on your affairs so that we can concentrate on ours


reply posted on 13-9-2004 @ 09:32 PM by LordGoofus
Please for crying out loud will everyone just take a valium and calm the heck down? EVERY country has things in it's past that people look back on now and grimace & wonder how the heck that country could have been so nieve, harsh and/or stupid. America is no different. However there DOES seem to be this "our country has never done any wrong and are incapable of doing wrong" attitude.

Who do you think helped put Saddam in power? Look it up on google, it was America. America in the past has also funded what they now class as terrorist organisations, here is a story that took me the whole of 5seconds to find that is from a reliable source (ABCNews):


Before his company sent him overseas, Allan Laird, a former Denver-based mining executive, had never heard of Abu Sayyaf.

As Laird quickly learned when he arrived in the Philippines, Abu Sayyaf is one of the world's most-feared terrorist organizations, closely connected to Osama bin Laden's al Qaeda network.

Laird said he also soon discovered the company for whom he formerly worked, Echo Bay, was regularly paying Abu Sayyaf and other terror groups in the Philippines in exchange for protection of its gold-mining operations.


So tell me now that America is promoting freedom and making the world a better place for everyone? They basically helped Abu Sayyaf get on their feet, and now they are trying their best to obliterate them. It's fairly well known that America has repeated this "fund a group then blow em up" approach numerous times in the last 20 or so years.

I'm all for world peace (you'd have to be silly if you weren't), but as the line from a song by spearhead goes, "You can bomb the world to pieces, but you can't bomb the world into peace."

Amercia, +1 point for trying to make all the nice little countries play nicely, but -100 for the way you are going about doing it. Your intentions are good, but the methods need to be re-examined.
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