Global Economic Collapse Intentional?, page 1
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Topic started on 16-1-2012 @ 02:39 PM by killuminati2012
As I watch global events unfold, I've had to ask myself if the people in power are really as incompetent as they seem, or is there simply more to the story than we are being told. I think most people on this board would agree that there is some sort of collusion going on behind the scenes. And even aside from any conspiracies, I think the average American (or any citizen of the world) acknowledges that there is corruption in high places, and this contributes to our current economic predicament.

So this raises the question: What is really going on that the general public is not made aware of? Is corruption running the economy into the ground on a global scale? In a sense, I think this is the case, but I also think it is more complicated than this.

Some people here have argued that a potential economic collapse is intentional. The more I consider what is going on, the more this idea makes sense to me. Why would people be so opposed to Ron Paul's views about living within our economic means? What we are currently doing is creating a ticking time-bomb (a massive financial bubble) that is just waiting to go off. I don't believe the people responsible for this are oblivious to what is transpiring, but they do seem opposed to fixing it. In fact, they are ratcheting up the very efforts that have put us in this predicament.

So what is really going on? I had an idea pop into my head last night that might possibly answer this question. First, I think it is quite possible that a global economic collapse is being orchestrated. But the big question is why? People may have differing opinions on the answer to this (and I think they should all be considered), but here is the idea that I came up with.

Our biggest threat isn't a nuclear Iran or extremist Muslims. Rather, our biggest threat is an economic collapse in the United States, or even just a significantly weakened dollar. People in power realize this, but they also realize we might be beyond the point of no return. Therefore, the solution is to bring everybody else down with us. Orchestrate a global economic collapse so that everybody is weakened, and not just the United States. Given the global nature and interconnectedness of the economy, this is not too hard to do.

It is certainly possible that I'm confusing an effect for a cause, but it would make sense logically. My question to you all is what do you make of this possible scenario? Or more generally speaking, does our current economic situation seem intentional? I am open to all opinions and ideas.


reply posted on 16-1-2012 @ 02:59 PM by Mimir
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My 2 cents is that the goal is to create a new world currency and strip the sovereign countries of direct control. The Euro was a failed attemp in Europe, next they will try on a bigger scale. The public dont want to give away their sovereignity, by creating a default the elite hope to enforce a new oppinion upon the public.

It's "funny" how these controlfreaks think they know whats best for us and prompt up bogus problems. They constantly aim for more control and biased laws/taxes instead of working on UN bans against the enviromental poisons and toxics were exposed to every day.

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reply posted on 16-1-2012 @ 09:41 PM by UsualSuspect
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From what I can see, yes. I'm talking about the mining industries in QLD, WA and SA. Perhaps not in all the major cities but my opinion is that the people suffering there need to get out and have a go! There are so many jobs that go unfilled or need to be filled by migrant workers I see no excuse for people in Australia to be unemployed.
I heard a story from a friend of mine recently..... He walks into the dole office and asks for a handout, normally against his morals, but the lady says to him "what's wrong? Disability?" he replies "no" and she just laughed at him and basically threw him out. He completely understood why, there is plenty of work, he was just being lazy!


reply posted on 16-1-2012 @ 10:56 PM by LordOfArcadia


On a more serious note, I won't discount the possibility that the global economic crisis is intentional but I haven't seen any evidence supporting the claim. In fact, the modern world has (and by extension the economy, because if economics has taught me nothing, it is that EVERYTHING is part of economic theory) become so complex that we have introduced points of failure that nobody has considered.

There is a professor that I had, and became fairly close to personally, that introduced me to the concept of hypercoherence. The short definition is that a system is said to be hypercoherent when it is so integrated that any shock causes it to crash. Basically, there is no compartmentalization to stop a problem from bringing the entire system down because of the sheer complexity of the system as a whole.

We now find ourselves living in a hypercoherent world. The example the Prof. always liked to use was an anecdote about the county where I live and where the University is located. Said University did a study in the early 2000's estimating how much food was in the county at any given time. They measured all of the food located in restaurants, grocery stores, the average family's home at any one time, etc. What was shocking and nobody expected was that there was only enough food to feed the population for 72 hours. If for some reason no deliveries could be made into the county AT ALL, given normal consumption patterns, all food would be consumed in 72 hours.

That is crazy and the reason is because of the "on time" model adopted by almost all grocery stores and restaurants. The moral of the story and what the professor was trying to have me see is that this is only a small example of how unbelievably complex our modern world has become. Systems like this extend up and down the economic ladder.

Remember the Blackout of 2003 that resulted in a quarter of North America not having power?
It was caused by the failure to trim one tree.

The world has become so complex that it truly is scary. Sometimes it is easier (and more comforting) to imagine that there are people behind the scenes pulling the strings, but reality might just be even more frightening. Again, I am not saying it is impossible that nefarious forces are responsible for our current situation, but we have created a world in which they simply are not needed to cause the kind of chaos we are watching on the nightly news.
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