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Originally posted by BrokenCircles
reply to post by CaticusMaximus
What I am saying, is extremely simple. I will attempt to simplify it even more, since this is the last time that I am going to say it:
[color=F1FFBA]This one particular article about this tree, states only one reason that leads toward the possibility of this fire being created by arson. ↓
[color=BAF1FF]Investigators said there was no lightning in the area Monday morning, so they believe it was arson.
Maybe they know more than that. Maybe they have the whole thing on video. Maybe pigs actually can fly. It does not matter. This article gives no other detail regarding any evidence that leads to the conclusion of arson, other than "There wasn't any lightning."
Unlike many of the commenters in this thread and below that article, "No Lightning" is just not enough for me to get pissed off about it. That minute detail is just not a good enough reason for me to believe the assumption of arson.
Is there more evidence? Maybe.
Could it have been an intentional arson? Yup, it sure could have.
Do I wholeheartedly believe it was arson, based only on one weak detail? Of course not.
www.cfnews13.com...
@James Meade wrote: "When decaying organic material is more than 40 feet thick it will combust spontaneously." I think you are probably on to something. I am a firefighter... rotting material does not have to be 40 feet thick to spontaneously combust. Under the right conditions a few inches can provide enough insulation for rotting materials to reach a high enough temperature to begin smoulder
Arson is ruled out in the blaze that destroyed the cypress, one of the world's oldest.
Arson was initially suspected. There was no lightning in the area Monday morning, and there is not electrical wiring in the area of the tree. But [color=88E397]the investigator could find [color=58FF05]nothing [color=88E397]to support the arson theory.
Originally posted by phantomjack
reply to post by mblahnikluver
I saw your thread before it was closed. Can you repost the photos you originally posted on your thread? They were pretty impressive.
I always found the trees at the Edison estate to be impressive too. Those were the first cypress trees I had experienced a long time ago when I was a younger chap.
Investigators are now saying arson was not the likely cause of a fire that on Monday destroyed a cypress tree in Central Florida that was an estimated 3,500 years old — making it perhaps the oldest such tree in the nation and one of the oldest in the world.
Known as "The Senator," the tree that once stood 165 feet tall (before a hurricane lopped off about 45 feet in 1925) was more likely brought down by a fire that had been smoldering inside it — without being detected — since a lightning strike about a week ago, investigators say.
Originally posted by mblahnikluver
Just found this:
Investigators are now saying arson was not the likely cause of a fire that on Monday destroyed a cypress tree in Central Florida that was an estimated 3,500 years old — making it perhaps the oldest such tree in the nation and one of the oldest in the world.
Known as "The Senator," the tree that once stood 165 feet tall (before a hurricane lopped off about 45 feet in 1925) was more likely brought down by a fire that had been smoldering inside it — without being detected — since a lightning strike about a week ago, investigators say.
I guess it was lightning from a week ago....I'm NO weather expert but how does this happen? How does a fire do this? I always thought once something caught on fire it was done, it didn't sit there for a week. Learn something new every day it seems.
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Maybe it was arson. Maybe it wasn't.
I have read and seen a few news reports that say arson and others say it wasn't arson.
I'm not upset. I find it amusing. I see it all the time on this site. Regardless of whether or not they realize it, the actual motto that most of the people on this site adhere to, is:
What are you so upset about?
Spontaneous combustion is a possibility, considering that there was rotting wood enclosed within a hollow tree.
Any ideas?
Officials want to protect what's left. They're proposing possibilities of a fence around the tree, another one around the park, and up to three security cameras to look down on the site that everyone used to look up to.
If the county gets all three, it could cost more than $60,000.
There are also a couple options to memorialize the tall tree: Nurture the seedlings, which might be its offspring, or replace it with a clone.
Woman arrested in 'The Senator' tree fire
A 26-year-old Seminole County woman was arrested Tuesday in the fire that destroyed the oldest pond cypress tree in the world -- The Senator -- at Big Tree Park in Longwood.
The Department of Agriculture and Consumer Services arrested Sara Barnes on charges of intentional burning of land, a third-degree felony.
Two tips from Crimeline led the Department of Agriculture and Consumer Services to arrest Barnes, authorities said. Tipsters said Barnes had taken cellphone pictures of the fire in the progress and uploaded them to her laptop, officials said.
Deputies and agents served a search warrant Tuesday at her home near Winter Park. They seized a cellphone and a laptop, which are still being processed to see if the photos of the fire can be retrieved, according to authorities.
Barnes told authorities that she and a friend were inside the hollow tree on the early morning of Jan. 16 and lit a fire so they could see better.