Israel attempting to frame the USA

I frankly do not understand how anyone could support the tactics of Israel or America. I agree that Israel would stab America in the back if it came down to it, as they have already shown their true colors by their actions via the UN, Palestine, etc.

Israel is like a spoiled child. They are willing to whine about how they get mistreated, hoping to get their way, but then they turn around and ignore the fact that others are telling them the same thing. That doesn't really explain it, but I am basically saying they are hypocritical. Extremely so.

And why is it that whenever someone tries to tell the truth about Israel's leadership that there are always those who say that it is "Israel bashing." Please, give me a break. What they WANT to say is that someone is being an anit-semite, but that is one step above "Israel bashing." lol, pathetic.

It is what it is. I don't let my emotions blind me from the facts, and the facts about Israel and the US are NOT good. Just because I am from America doesn't mean I should smile and take whatever they want to dish out. Especially regarding other countries that they have no business bothering in the first place. If we wouldn't stick our noses in everything, then the entire Middle East wouldn't hate us. And THAT is the truth.

So is Israel, in this case, setting up the American government to take the fall for Mossad's actions? There is definitely enough evidence for concern, although not enough to conclusively determine this as fact. We will have to wait and see. Are there only a handful of us who find it fishy that Mossad agents are posing as agents of the CIA?

American officials represent America and her policies, so impersonating an agent of the United States and then going against the US policy, definitely seems to have a motive behind it. Israel thought that if they got caught, the blame would not come back to them. So basically it would seem like they sold the US out, when they claim to be her ally.

The sad truth of it is that Israel is USING the United States, and always has been. Israel would not be so quick to attempt to be the big dog on the block if it weren't for America's moronic policy to support an equally insane leadership tier.

This whole Iran thing is very complex and has been a very long time in the making as has the rest of the agenda. As we all know, Iran has not attacked anyone in 300 years, yes, they do have a government led by religious zealots as does isreal and the usa, the religious right in all 3 cases.. What has been happening in the region starting with Iraq and the false flag 911 that started that one, followed by Pipelanistan, followed by FreeLibya, followed by Democratize Syria and now Iran. Any non brainwashed human being must be able to see the pattern by now, Surely??? All of the media are controlled from the top, they are not allowed to film or report with out the OK of TPB, What the masses are allowed to see is an agenda biased view of the world and always based on fear. The US and Nato have so far invaded how many countries so far on false pretenses to further there own agendas, they have to this date killed 1.5 million Iraq'is at least and the end result of the depleted uranium weapons used is unknown, but probably another million or more. The same goes for Pipelanistan, the Taliban cracked down on the poppy trade, the source of revenue for the CIA black ops program for some years, so here we go again. As we all know on here anyway, Isreal has a funding from the US that is on the books as at least 5 billion in aid a year, this does not include the black ops money that is also sent their way. Isreal was complicit in 911 we all know that. Isreal has satelite footage of the missile launch that hit the pentagon, and has been blackmailing the US ever since, never mind what happened in new york. If we remember, after world war 2 Palestine was devided and the displaced jews given a home, that is how this whole mess called Isreal was started. Then remember that the Bushes funded Hitler. Basically, USA and Isreal are major arms suppliers to the world, they fund both sides in many conflicts, they are both as dirty as any nation can be and both are armed with nukes to the teeth and have no qualms about using them and both when ever another soveriegn nation even looks like they may persue that path, esque that we are sane and can have these nukes, but you are not sane and cannot. Isreal has somewhere in the neighbourhood of 600 nukes, they also have the latest fighters to deliver them, remember the syrian nuclear facility that was taken out by the missing tomahawk with an active yellow warhead that went missing from north dakota and every one in the chain of command died a mysterious death? Isrealy fighters escorted the stealth bomber in..and then jettisioned their tanks to make it look like an Isrealy raid, but that tomahawk yellow tipped baby went missing in Louisiana and they know that. Mossad will stop at nothing as we have seen all over the world, they operate with impunity as does the CIA and MI6, there is no culpability, because the people at the top run the whole show, the masters, the bilderburgers, the Banksters, the rockerfellers, the kissengers, the council on foriegn relations, the people that think and are so deluded to believe that the know the best for mankind and possess a bloodline. And between you and I..Most of them were born with a silver spoon in their mouth and have never actually done an honest days work in their life!

Right now the only thing preventing an Israeli attack on Iran is the U.S. Israel has been a pain in the ass as they could have made peace and made life alot easier for us but I can understand that if the roles were reversed and a country started shooting missles into American Territory...the U.S. would wipe them out period.

Thsi thing with Iran is not so cut and dry as to bomb some of these Iranian sites would put alot of Radioactive dust in the air.

Two ways this will end...Iran comes to their senses and allows inspectors back in or...Iran declares in has a Nuclear Weapon and the U.S. will have to go in using some very advanced tactics as well as weapons.
Split Infinity

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I agree, It is snowing where I am, which is a rare thing on the edge of the pacific. I actually worked with those morons, I put my life on the line for them, I was young and new no better. But now I do. I wonder ..If my my car will blow up in the morning as I turn the key? I always did my bomb check before driving them.. Yes I was there, but nothing has truly changed. It's scary #.... and I have already said enough tonight....And the man that i would truly trust, because he knows how to play this game, is an old buddy of mine,,Vlad

Originally posted by voodmon
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I agree, It is snowing where I am, which is a rare thing on the edge of the pacific. I actually worked with those morons, I put my life on the line for them, I was young and new no better. But now I do. I wonder ..If my my car will blow up in the morning as I turn the key? I always did my bomb check before driving them.. Yes I was there, but nothing has truly changed. It's scary #.... and I have already said enough tonight....And the man that i would truly trust, because he knows how to play this game, is an old buddy of mine,,Vlad

The key to not having to worry about this is to always to be considered useful.
Split Infinity

Always, some of us have a brain and are not a part of the those that wish to control us. I come from the cambridge brain trust. If you would like to talk in # codes we can decide on mutual books, the entrepid thing that my grandfather did ..book codes are always where it starts.. till then.. ta ta for now

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actually I think Israel would do well in a 1 on 1 conflict against Iran. The only reason Israel would lose is because Russia and China have economic interests in Iran, and would more than likely back Iran up. Interests aside, Iran is nothing more than a Russian proxy at this point, much the same way N.Korea is to China

As for the OP:

Israel has nothing to hide. They have been talking for months about a strike, or other measures against Iran. And would gain nothing by trying to blame anything on the U.S, seeing as the entire world knows their stance on the matter.

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Yes Israel is an enemy of the people of the USA, but thats because it own's the USA and all it's allies.

The land for Israel was aquired by a big banking family who's name comes from the words red sign, and yes they worship satan.

They think that lucifer....the bringer of light is their god..........some think lucifer is another name for Venus.....but lucifer is another name for the Sun......at least they will be warm when they get there.

So have fun while you can.....it wont be long now.

Their aim is to own the World.......not many Countries to go now so stop helping them !!!!!!
When they own the world they WILL reduce the population as they see fit.

No blood line is better than any other......and I think its time the God of good turned up.

I know that some will think I am a nut, but who wins a war....the bank.....so I've got to try.

reply to post by MaxJohnson


Actually it is a parasitic relationship, Israel has never helped in the war on terror, because they were the ultimate architects of that fiasco. Israel wants to expand and claim land from the river euphrates to the river egypt. Guess who is in between those lands? Muslims, hence they have to portray them as terrorists.

Originally posted by Ben81
Amahdinejad said :

WIPE ISRAEL REGIME OFF THE MAP .... which i agree

the translator did a very bad job
remove regime and it change the complete sentence

WIPE ISRAEL OFF THE MAP ... which i dont agree

it was the perfect occasion to trick Iran and make a case that they are about to commit a genocide

edit on 1/16/2012 by Ben81 because: (no reason given)

Here's a link to back up your comment

www.theatlanticwire.com...

It's a good break-down of the whole mistranslation "exaggeration" deal that came from the MSM rhetoric.

So there you have it. Depending on who you ask, Ahmadinejad was either endorsing Khomeini's battle cry for Israel to be wiped off the map or invoking Khomeini's wish that, someday, somehow, the Israeli government will collapse under its own weight. The varying translations, of course, may be inextricably linked to people's political views on Iran and the Israeli-Palestinian conflict. And some argue that the distinction is academic at this point. In a study for the Jerusalem Center for Public Affairs, Joshua Teitelbaum states that Ahmadinejad's public statements, taken as a whole, indicate that the Iranian leader is bent on the "actual physical destruction of the State of Israel," however one may translate his 2005 speech.

It can also be said in a similar fashion to "wiping israel from the page of time". Which in itself can be then again translated to "removing israel from power" or along the lines of that.

The stupid thing about arabic-esque translations such as persian... the translated meaning depends on the politcal views of the translator at the time of writing

Originally posted by voodmon
Always, some of us have a brain and are not a part of the those that wish to control us. I come from the cambridge brain trust. If you would like to talk in # codes we can decide on mutual books, the entrepid thing that my grandfather did ..book codes are always where it starts.. till then.. ta ta for now

BOOK CODES?!? What is this...Day of the Condor?!? LOL! Sorry...I could not help myself! Book Codes..WOW! I have not even THOUGHT of that in over....28 years?

I am well aware of how certain student groups who some became members of our Intell services back in the day...way before me...used to use book codes like the big boys did in the 40's and 50's and even to an extent into the 70's...as a game of secrets to hone their abilities.

This is all in the past now as direct encription over a SAY phone or even a Black Berry will take months for a Super Computer to crack as they use a Chaos based Algorythmic foundation based on nothing. With current equipment...it is perfectly safe to communicate with a SAT phone and with todays high level of computational power...even using the most obscure book as a template....an NSA computer will crack it in a matter of seconds.

One of an another very important lesson I have learned over the years...if something is leaked...99% of the time...it was done on purpose. Split Infinity