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Originally posted by Alfie1
The trouble is ANOK that we have other truthers like BoneZ saying the penthouse is a seperate issue from the total collapse. They like to ignore the Penthouse and measure the time of the fall from when the facade goes down. This is so they can waffle on about near free-fall and such.
Now you want to include the penthouse, which makes a total collapse time of 15 or 16 seconds and way away from free-fall. And you make a virtue of including it saying it is a sign of cd.
So confusing ! Who to believe ?
Originally posted by magicrat
reply to post by WhereAreTheGoodguys
It looks well-sourced, but yeah, the "originally published by 911 blogger" at the beginning might turn some people off, sure. I'll give it a good read.
From a quick skim, I think this line from the first paragraph is important, and a better angle for research (in my opinion) than trying to prove family relationships:
Although Wirt and Marvin are distant relatives, these ties are inconsequential relative to each man’s family connections to old drug money, deep state operatives, and the wealthy, powerful people who have controlled such money and operatives over the last two centuries.
Thanks for the response and for linking your source.
Originally posted by NuminousCosmos
Get a clue mate, and stop relying on authority to tell you what to think. Go learn a little about physics and engineering, then you can make up your own mind instead of using someone else's to try to tell me I'm wrong
I think this summates the whole proposition right here. The Truther contends that all of the experts, knowledgeable professionals, and independent investigators using science properly-are ALL lying shills, either paid off or coerced into spinning a tale told to them by the evil shadow guvmint.
You want to think for yourselves? EDUCATE yourselves. Science, physics, history-they're all there for us to see, use, and understand...you can not take from one group and ignore the other.edit on 1/16/2012 by NuminousCosmos because: (no reason given)
Originally posted by LightSpeedDriver
reply to post by v1rtu0s0
Mainstream levels? Isn't 2.7 million less than 1% of the US population?
ETA It was a good video, it covered some good points quickly. I am sure a debuinker will be along shortly...edit on 16/1/12 by LightSpeedDriver because: ETA
Originally posted by Droidinvoid
I don't care how WTC building 7 came down , how did the BBC know 20 minutes in advance.
Originally posted by Droidinvoid
From an average viewer position , the fact that the BBC reported on the collapse of Building 7 over twenty minutes in advance of its implosion obviously provokes a myriad of questions as to how they knew it was about to come down , BBC reporter Jane Standley delivers the news of the collapse as she would any other news item , forget all the structure info and debris stats , twenty minutes in advance , no one has explained to me how the hell they could know this beforehand.......... this seals the twin towers story for me .
If another ATS member could supply information regarding such a crystal ball reading prediction and to see it happen , in a live situation , I would gladly bow down to the poster and shut up
Man the Fact that there are so many experts claiming that it was controlled is astounding, that alone should warrant EVERYONE'S attention and indeed that alone should warrant a new investigation.