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Topic started on 15-1-2012 @ 07:38 PM by Aloysius the Gaul

Natural remedies "seldom effective"


www.stuff.co.nz
Colloidal silver, deer velvet, arnica and rescue remedy are a "waste of time and money" and sometimes harmful, doctors say.

In the latest New Zealand Medical Journal Digest, doctors Shaun Holt and Sarah Jeffries and health psychologist Andrew Gilbey have slammed some of New Zealanders' favourite natural health products as ineffective.

Holt told The Press that of the "hundreds" of therapies and products, about 95 per cent were either not biologically plausible or not supported by research evidence.

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reply posted on 15-1-2012 @ 07:38 PM by Aloysius the Gaul
No great surprise for anyone with a critical mind - and I suspect "believers" won't believe anything said by doectors or scientists anyway ......but none-the-less I think it is important to note that all the real studies of such "remedies" keep coming up with the same sort of conclusions.

Of course there is a well established conspiracy here -

Gilbey said people were paying big money for products and therapies that did nothing.



but because it is a real conspiracy of course it's no fun at all to investigate - there's no reason to speculate or theorise about it

As for those small number of alternative remedies that ARE effective - the article notes that

"The difficulty for people is, which are the 5 per cent of products and therapies worth trying? Use the ones with evidence behind them.

"The problem is people go on the internet, which is not reliable."

People often assumed a product or therapy worked because reputable people endorsed it in advertisements, he said.



and it is actually difficult to find any rational evidence for effective natural remedies - I've been loking for a bit before writing this, and the 'net is simply overflowing with anecdotal accounts, advertising, etc - I haven't actually been able to find any such documentation at all outside of the
Cochrane Review pages linked to - and for herbal medicine that concluded:

Less that half the Cochrane reviews on vitamins and minerals conclude that there is a possibly positive effect or promising results in connection with the tested products.

The majority of the reviews call for more and better research in their field. This is due to the fact that often there is insufficient evidence on which to draw conclusions about the effect of the vitamins and minerals in question.

There are seldom reports of any severe adverse effects.


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reply posted on 15-1-2012 @ 07:40 PM by My.mind.is.mine
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Well, from a user of natural remedies and ex chemical medication user, I testify that they work, and work well. Just because they don't work "fast" doesn't mean they don't work well. And after that, they go right to work as a preventative. Humans are a "now" species, and it just don't work that way. Come to my home, and you won't even find an advil anywhere in the building.

Patience is a virtue
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reply posted on 15-1-2012 @ 07:42 PM by xacto
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One word. Wormwood. Do some research on parasitic worms and you will #e yourself...no pun intended. There is a reason why animals go in for annual "deworming"..


reply posted on 15-1-2012 @ 08:05 PM by FissionSurplus
I went from being over-drugged by prescription medications which did nothing but harm me, to an all-natural regimen of vitamins, minerals and herbs which I find to be not only highly effective, but have many healthful benefits.

Of COURSE these studies never find anything effective about natural remedies. They are done by colleges which are heavily funded by pharmaceutical companies. Quite a few of these quack science "studies" are coming out of New Zealand. We know nothing about the structure of these studies, such as how many subjects participated, what their physical complaints were, how long were they followed, what was the protocol for determining how they were doing, etc.

I call B.S. I was diagnosed with rheumatoid arthritis in 1999. Everything offered for me only made me either sicker, more prone to infections and disease, or horribly addicted. I realized that western allopathic medicine was useless when it came to chronic disease. I did my own research and went through quite a few natural items before I found things that worked for me and restored most of my health.

Most days, I can forget that I am sick. But I can never forget the many doctors, the many medical bills, and the many prescriptions which almost destroyed my life. There is no benefit for big pharma to publish any research results which are favorable for vitamins and herbs that they cannot patent.

Follow the money and learn the truth about why we are now more likely to die younger than our parents did, more likely to die of some horrible chronic disease, and why a few companies are suddenly making billions in yearly profits.


reply posted on 15-1-2012 @ 08:10 PM by My.mind.is.mine
www.earthclinic.com


get with it people!
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reply posted on 15-1-2012 @ 08:26 PM by Afterthought
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Sure they did and so do we. The only thing we have that they didn't have back then is great pain killers. They had a stick to bite down on.

Still, you can't say for certain that what big pharma is peddling is better than what nature has supplied.
In my opinion, the medical community would be more responsible if they administered natural medications first. If these don't help, then try big pharma's drugs. This would be much easier on the body and cause less problems when it comes to side effects.

Also, considering how our food is being engineered to have less nutrients and we're inside out of the sun most of the time, we're led to believe that we need their drugs. In reality, we're lacking in sunshine and nutrients that are causing us to become unstable psychologically and physically.


reply posted on 15-1-2012 @ 08:28 PM by kalamatas
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I've used colloidal silver to cure an ear infection and a lung infection. I've used topical arnica to prevent bruising (works like a champ). A family member relies on topical arnica for pain reduction of her arthritis because she can't take drugs. Rescue remedy works awesome for animals. I have a rescue cat who I have to give flower essences to before I take her to the vet because she's a beast otherwise. Animals seem to be more responsive to subtle remedies such as that.

Some of these remedies may not be as fast or powerful as some drugs but that doesn't mean they aren't effective at all.
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