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Originally posted by blocula
reply to post by SplitInfinity
Maybe while the usa's military and "oil focused thought patterns" are tearing around the middle east some more,north korean,chinese and russian armies will invade the west coast of the united states and imo,if they did,they would be able to penetrate a couple hundred miles before the usa could even properly react.Walk around any usa mall on a saturday night and look around at the majority of people you'll see,a cross sections of americans who would be physically useless and mentally helpless trying to stand up to a "real invasion" of the usa...
edit on 28-1-2012 by blocula because: (no reason given)
Syria or any other country should not think of even using WMDs on battlefields let alone in other areas.
There is huge difference between a shop lifter and a shop break-in burglar and daylight gun totting robber. Individual countries need not be perfect and they can get away with small shop lifting every now and then. But outright murdering people and chasing them from homes to another country etc. is a good recipe to fall into the hands of the western attackers whose real intention is to steal resources of the country under the cover of humanitarian help.
Originally posted by michael1983l
Privet DeepThoughtCriminal, the trouble with mother Russia is that it is full of corruption in its government. The government are not looking after its people, they are looking after themselves, which is why 80% of the wealth in Russia is with 20% of its people. Putin has great ties to Tehran because they make lots of money off arms deals, however do not let your government fool you into thinking that it is ok for Iran to have nuclear weapons. You should not be happy to allow your government to take your servicemen to war on the back of keeping Putin's back handers rolling in from the arms deals to Syria and Iran. Your people do not profit from this, only your elite. Spasibo.edit on 15-1-2012 by michael1983l because: (no reason given)
Originally posted by blackmirage0311
reply to post by EarthCitizen07
Thats Corporal to you, civvy.
And could you please enlighten all of us here on your vast knowledge of geopolitics? Do you know something no one here knows, or are you just making assumptions based on your fantasies of how this war will play out?
I'm not back tracking anything. No one would be retarded enough to launch "hundreds of nukes" lol
Like I said, 70 years and counting, nothing's changed. MAD has served its purposeedit on 15-1-2012 by blackmirage0311 because: (no reason given)
Originally posted by milkyway12
reply to post by SGTSECRET
Again , Iran caused this on itself when committing a war act during 9/11. You don't just get tired of War and say , "Ok i quit, killed enough of you." no. A war last until the enemy is defeated and or has surrendered. Iran does not need nukes in any way. They are beyond being in bed with Terrorist organizations that have whole sale slaughter of innocent people in ALL religions. Their government is constantly clambering on about utterly destroyer America and Israel with regards to simply wiping Israel off the face of the map. They are also threatening to bring about Armageddon / usher in their little Imam or whatever he is. This nation's government deserves no diplomatic policy. Their government and their religious counsel needs to be invaded and killed. They are all radical Islamist and are about to get a Nuclear weapon.edit on 04/30/2011 by milkyway12 because: (no reason given)
Originally posted by spy66
reply to post by victor7
It seems to me that Russians have some "UNCONTROLLABLE" Erotic desire to polish the shoes of the NATO and hand wash NATO's laundry. They are working very hard and focused towards the fulfillment of this desire.
In the mean time, Chinese are very happy being the 'slave labors' to the west while riding the bubbles in their own economy.
When self pride is lost then the soul is lost.............at that point country, religion, culture, family all does not matter a squat.
Yes, But dont you see the common nominator here?
Putin is not doing NATO laundry. He is supervising.
And i bet that the Chinese top notch ain't doing any slave labour.
So who is doing all the crap?
When you see who is doing all the slave labour does it really matter what tactics the elite use?
It wont matter to them, that's for sure. Not as long as we do as they command. Things would be a hell of a lot different if they to had to work for a living.
The Irony is that we curse our leaders for making horrible choices. But still we work hard to make the crappy choices become a reality. This just tell me how dumb we really are, and it is because we are so dumb they can keep it up.
edit on 27.06.08 by spy66 because: (no reason given)
The policy is the of containment.
The system of psychopaths is doing wrong and it will crumble upon itself.
Killing million of psychopaths in a battlefield is fine cause it is a war but going out of the battle arena would not be right.
Even 10,000 causalities on battlefield will have their people calling/begging/pleading for changes in policies and focus of resources.
What is happening in their countries is the mass mentality. When group of people jump on a lone guy, then the mass cheers for the group knowing that they would be safer that way. This is more true in the global arena where people are replaced by nations. Right now their citizens are pretty much quiet because they know their losses are minimal and they can get away after bombing civilians people and infrastructure of other countries. It will take only one or two hard hits on battlefield and these what so called brave bastards will be crying for mommy to come to help. I saw youtube video from Afghanistan battle and the US soldier was shot in the stomach and he was screaming words of nonsense and cursing George Bush and all the other MotherFs in the government. Only moments ago his tone was different and upbeat. Same for the collection of people also who cheer for a hellfire missile to take out a Libyan APC, but when their own are hit then most go dumbfounded and quiet.
Regarding the view of 'eternal dominance' and putting up with it, I would say true superpowers are made by their own efforts. Pretty true about USSR and very true about USA. Regarding countries like China who are out there to steal and copy technology and implement crony capitalism which seems good only for few and there is probably the same story about India...............such actions are not the making of a superpower in the long run.
Candidly 75% way of life of west is very right and acceptable and should be preached to others. 15% might need some fine tuning and rest 10% is pure right 'psychotically evil'. It is this 10% that needs "vigorous containment" and keeping at a distance from it just like on would like to be at a distance from a poisonous snakes. If other nations can wipe off or keep at bay, this 10% trait of the west, then there is no need to feel the dominance of any kind.
100s of millions of humans are not being murdered or mutilated by the west, neither directly nor indirectly.
Sudden destruction or demise of the west would unleash horrendous amount of chaos and disturbance in this world resulting in all sorts of economic, social, religious problems. Can't think of a scenario where fanatic Islamic nations are attacking others to convert them to Islam or some other crack pot comes in with the idea of Communism version II and gains some local support and sets aside with a plan of global ambitions.
I did not say that asymmetric attacks on civilian targets is not right. To get the message through fast such attacks might be useful during a war. But killing a million civilians in a 'civilian focused' attack is not right. With the figure of million, probably you are using WMDs..........not right at all!
10K causalities within a week or month in war, is a high high high figure for any nations including thickly populated China and India to bear.
75% of life style of psychopaths is right because it resembles that life style of common normal people around the world.
They sure do like to dominate due to their technological advancements but the problem arises when it takes a form of oppression. However, this will change very fast as best of the brains from Russia, Europe, China, India, South America are not coming to US to gain a settlement...........not anymore. The rest of the world is not so much "materially deprived" now as it was in 1991 (the official demise of communism). A vast majority of technological lead of the west is because they get the cream of the brains from around the world. Stealth Bomber concept was originally developed by some Petr Ufimtsev way back in 1960s. His idea was not accepted in USSR and he got disgraced and defected. His papers were read and researched by guys in Lockheed Martin and they built upon the idea to their success.
Civilizations rise and fall and some even disappear example: Mongolia under Genghiz Khan.
Nothing is constant except CHANGE. World is changing every second, it is constantly changing.
I agree with you, what do you suggest we do about it? We're kind of danmed if we do, damned if we don't no?
Originally posted by Imtor
And I say, make a more serious war and we will soon known what UFOs are. This could happen without war so it would be nice to not allow war.
Countries like Russia, China, India, Brazil, Iran and others need to attack the ills of corruption and looting from the state. This alone will free up lots of funds and resources to build good defenses, enhance standards of living and cultivate several industries to retain best minds to do research and create new technologies and theories.
That Russians siphon off $30B a year and send it overseas, That Chinese and Indians have nearly $1Trillion each in Swiss Banks is the own domestic ills and probably more hurtful than any external pressures of sorts.
Countries need to look at their own mistakes before blaming 100% of problems on others.
That is a very third worldish backward line of thinking.
Originally posted by Observor
reply to post by victor7
There is more dignity and honour in being a human being making mistakes and reaping the consequences than living on the carcasses of dead human beings which is what the "first world" specialises in and the shameless, characterless scum from the rest of the world who gather there to feast on the pieces of the carcasses left over by the psychopathic scum and believe they are somehow superior to those living elsewhere, like a bandit's whore flaunting her jewels before a peasant's wife. Of course, when the time comes when the psychopaths bite the dust and they cannot engage anymore in looting the rest of the world to maintain their lifestyles ever dependent on murder and plunder, these pathetic creatures who gathered for the left overs will be left high and dry and deservedly so.
If and when it happens,Russia,China and North Korea wont be attacking the USA with clubs and spears,they all have advanced military machines and technologies and they have secret agents as well and their troop strengths dwarf the USA's...
Originally posted by victor7
reply to post by blocula
Long before these armies reach the US ports they will be identified. Long before means atleast 1000 miles and even much more. Then they will have nice welcome committee waiting for them in form of Aircraft Carriers, Precision Bombers, Subs and you name it.