reply to post by victor7
Other than the technology, the West does not control any resources that impede the development of military assets in Russia or Asia. Not even
rare earth materials.
You are assuming the West's control will remain restricted to what it is today. Every
country that lacks the ability to strike back at the
Western homelands will come under Western umbrella one way or another. The only
resources that will not be under Western control are those
within these handful of countries in the alliance that you are proposing. There won't be any neutral countries for them to trade with. It is a true
global domination that the West seeks, intends to get and will most likely achieve if not stopped soon.
I believe from Libyan experience, both Russia and China have learned that UN votes are crucial for protection of other nations which are under
attack from NATO. Far fewer sanctions will be approved by Russia and China from here on.
I will believe it when I see it. More importantly it is their reaction if the West decides to act militarily without their consent (i.e, without UN
authorisation) that will expose if they gave a tacit approval for the action or not.
When there is war then all bets are off. Iraq, Serbia, Libya should have gone and attacked the civilian interests of US-NATO all around the
How exactly would they have achieved it? Through random terrorist attacks, since they have no capability to attack NATO targets of value anywhere
since they are well protected? Do you think that will increase or decrease the public support within the West for such actions in future?
Anyway all the Western states are becoming police states and such tactics even if they could have had some success in the past are increasingly
Even if at the cost of getting nuked.
Funny how that option is suggested for those who cannot
nuke the West, but unthinkable for those who can
. Yeah, right. Those puny
nations should be risking annihilation to score a few Western civilian casualties, just to prove to others posthumously that they valued living on
their own terms?
In Libya they did not send any troops because NTC was doing the dirty work for them. Best of both the worlds. Anti aircraft artellery would not
have save Libya from bombing as range is not there to it to hit the planes flying above 15K feet. One JDAM gps type bomb costs $30K and 1 tomahawk
missile costs $1M easy. So it would not have been cost beneficial to conduct bombing using missiles. $1M missile to kill 500K worth T-64 Libyan tank
does not make any sense.
Exactly what I said. The West would pick the most cost-effective tactics for the scenario. As for the NTC, yes, there will be always
traitors who will assist the West in their job. No matter what the country, there will be those who are driven by survival rather than values and when
they see the West is going to win, they will take that side. If there are not enough traitors to do the work for the West and direct occupation is not
an option because of the cost involved, they will simply bomb and destroy and come back later to finish the job when more are willing to join their
Until they are threatened with vast number of causalities, they will be happy to play their video games on humans.
Glad we agree on that finally! Now that we agree on what
will keep them in check, we can discuss how
that can be achieved
Any pre-emptive attack on US/Russia/China/India/UK etc. will result in retaliation.
Not necessarily. Don't be so sure of what your adversary will do. Your adversary wants to make everyone his slave. But he is also interested in
staying alive. You have no designs for your adversary and he too understands that. If you can prove to him that you are willing to finish him off,
should he continue with his attempts to enslave the next guy, he will be disciplined because he values staying alive more than enslaving someone else
and he knows he can't kill you without himself dying.
If Russia or China launches an attack today citing some past aggression by the US it can be treated only as an aggression and response becomes
necessary. However, if either of these launch an attack immediately in response to a Western attack on another nation, it would be technically
pre-emptive, but practically a respone to aggression, especially if warned of it before. In that scenario there will be no
any retaliation by West will result in their own annihilation. They will know that they have crossed a line that they shouldn't have.