Almost sounds like u.s/israel wanted to get caught .

But will deny it hoping iran will strike first . I'm still waiting on this evidence they have to confirm.

"at an "opportune time,""


this means , were not going to strike first because we know how stupid that would be , We will wait untill you make the first more , then we are justified to attack back with all our means .


Iran ain't no fool , they know little tricks like this are the bait to attack first , maybe hitting one of the navy ships .

But nope its not the opportune time yet , i'm sure israel u.s will tickle the lion more and more

espically with these sanctions

remember pearl harbor and how many sanctions japan ate before having enough !

everyones got a breaking point



:Hillary Obama, Panetta and all other in the government .. are terrible liars
always in denial to the last breath :"


My friend liars are a gross understatement for these psychopaths

Iran certainly seems to be taking THIS specific assassination awfully hard. Either this guy was more important than the last 6-8 Nuke eggheads to die or disappear...or it's just reaching a breaking point for being on the receiving side of covert warfare in their own cities. After the hell they've dished out through their proxies to other regional locations over 3 decades, I imagine turn about isn't what they're calling fair play.

In all seriousness though, lets not make Iran sound like a truly peaceful regime looking for days that John Lennon would call perfect. I'd say they've gotten more than a few licks in by road side weapons and penetrator type shaped charges they've supplied as party favors to Iraq if NOTHING else. Only time will tell how this all plays out....but I'd be just as happy if the game weren't played further at all, myself.

Tehran or Washington...either player can leave the field and just refuse to continue this warped game.

This caught my eye and I instantaneously thought of this analogy with regards to this region.

Originally posted by yourboycal2

But nope its not the opportune time yet , i'm sure israel u.s will tickle the lion more and more

A cat plays with a mouse before the cat kills it.

But the mouse doesn't take kindly to it being tortured, it ruffles up its fur to try to make it look bigger and defends itself to the best of it ability. The cat is amused by all of this, until the mouse bites the cat and the cat kills it finally.

Unbeknown to the cat, the mouse had rabies, which will eventually kill the cat.

Economically, another conflict in the region will be our rabies if we draw it out like the others.

Originally posted by TDawgRex
This caught my eye and I instantaneously thought of this analogy with regards to this region.

Originally posted by yourboycal2

But nope its not the opportune time yet , i'm sure israel u.s will tickle the lion more and more

A cat plays with a mouse before the cat kills it.

But the mouse doesn't take kindly to it being tortured, it ruffles up its fur to try to make it look bigger and defends itself to the best of it ability. The cat is amused by all of this, until the mouse bites the cat and the cat kills it finally.

Unbeknown to the cat, the mouse had rabies, which will eventually kill the cat.

Economically, another conflict in the region will be our rabies if we draw it out like the others.

Yes i know .. Iran is strong and they needed to be weakened before any attack
and elevate the chances of winning the war

This strategy is often employed and is usualy the most painfull to the population
its like trying to destroy the country soul to avoid to many people joining the war against the intruder

Originally posted by Ben81


Hillary Obama, Panetta and all other in the government .. are terrible liars
always in denial to the last breath

That is a very slanderous and unfounded remark. Also disrespectful to the quotes that have been given by each of those people (quoted above.)

Perhaps you are using your wicked accusations as an attempt to sway the opinions of readers. Perhaps you are just trolling. Either way, your words are manipulative and have no basis in fact.

If you have proof that "they are lying"...then present it. Otherwise, you are the liar.

It appears to me from the above quotes and the actions, that these two people are trying to keep the peace.

Your words and accusations are designed to instigate turmoil and evil will. No wonder some people hope to shut down the internet.

Originally posted by Ben81

Originally posted by Wrabbit2000
Tehran or Washington...either player can leave the field and just refuse to continue this warped game.

Iran is already on their field ..since they live there
the USA should pick up their bags go back home

That is true to a point, but then Bahrain, the UAE, Kuwait and Saudi live there too and they are inviting us in with major combat commands like the 5th Fleet HQ in Bahrain or various regional command centers up and down the West shore of the Gulf.

Apparently they (The rest of the Neighborhood in the Gulf) believe the only thing worse than being caught in the middle of the United States and Iran finally having their fight is facing a regional super-power in Iran, alone.

Now the fight between Israel and it's immediate neighbors on all sides has been in the making since the 40's...but this fight with Iran has been in the making since the Embassy was breached in 1979. It's been coming and BOTH sides have known it, for 30 years now.

I think that perspective is important to recall in how this is far more complex and shady for who is right or wrong than the opportunistic way Libya was stomped, almost as an afterthought.

None of that makes either side right in my view..and either side can turn this off before the shooting and dying starts. It just seems neither side as even the slightest interest.

U.S. Defense Secretary Leon Panetta Thursday told troops in Texas: "We were not involved in any way -- in any way -- with regards to the assassination that took place there.... that's not what the United States does."

You've got to love the above statement...NOT!

Guess no one told him about all the US DRONE assassinations, including on US citizens?

Originally posted by yourboycal2
Almost sounds like u.s/israel wanted to get caught .

OR ... it almost sounds like Iran 'off'd' the guy themselves when they were through with him and then used his death as a tool to be able to bluster and threaten the USA and Israel. Could go either way ... They do kill their own, and they'd make great propaganda use out of the death ....

it's more of a public declaration that the US and Israel are into state sponsered terrorism.

every nation on the planet will have that message ring through their foreign affairs department, and they will be forced to discuss it with their intelligence apparatuses.

this is Irans way of trying to show itself as a defendant, and it will work with a lot of nations sitting on the fence if they have the evidence to prove it.

America and Israel are like Nazi Germany, circa 1933-1938, we have healthy relationships with those around us, for the time being, even though many are aware of what the potential is, the 2 nations in the past decade have waged 6-8 wars. how much longer until a counter alliance begins to fight back and 1939 commences?

Originally posted by FlyersFan
. it almost sounds like Iran 'off'd' the guy themselves when they were through with him and then used his death as a tool to be able to bluster and threaten the USA and Israel.

Most of the time , I don't agree with you on anything you say. I understand your reasons, Fox is a highly rated network for a reason. But even for you , and your supporters, this is just silly.

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Originally posted by Tw0Sides
I understand your reasons, Fox is a highly rated network for a reason.

... obviously you DON'T understand if you make a statement like that.
Have you ever even taken a look at what goes on inside Iran?
Do you understand how many people 'disappear' in that country after being carted away?
Do you understand how Iran trumps up charges on people and then uses the political capital?
No .. obviously not. Or you wouldn't have revealed your ignorance of how Iran works.

But even for you , and your supporters, this is just silly.

I have no 'supporters'. THAT comment is silly.
Go educate yourself on how Iran works and then come back and try again.

Anyone here old enough to remember how WW II got started for the US? Anyone? What we are seeing here is a modern day version of that playing out minus the existing conflict atm.

The US put so many sanctions on Japan, they had no alternative but to attack as economically their way of life (even so they were slaughtering Chinese at the time) was floundering due to what amounted to present day sanctions in termanology.

Now, the US was soely responsible for Hitlers rise to begin with after the US stoped doing business with Germany after WW I. At that time it was also the equivelant of sanctions as Germany's economy was tanking due to the business fall out and being black balled by major banks and investment.

My point? Same set up, scarier times to do it in. Its all about money folks plain and simple. You make Irans money worthless...and all your doing is giving Iran the excuse they need to retaliate in any form necessary.

History repeats does it not? The US was also responsible for Saddam, Osama, the current Iranian gov, Veitnam (by French Proxy), you name it.

The bankers were responsible for the revolutionary way, War of 1812, Civil War, WW I .....are you seeing a pattern here? America is not a country but a corporation since its inception. All to be controled by Money.